mustang0341 Goes Anabolic Winny/Test/Mast/T-Bol

[mustang0341]

aiight, here it is guys. My 1st cycle is here and it is time to do this. First off let me preface this by saying that I joined AM just under a year ago and was almost one of those "1st cycle please help" guys. But I read and read some more and noticed I needed to wait. Well I have learned alot and I am ready to give this a go. I have lost alot of weight and BF over the last year and am glad I waited. I am in a better place to see more from this cycle now. I owe a tremendous amount to too many people here on AM. I have met lots of awesome people and even made some friends. Ok enough mushy stuff....

about me:
32yrs young
5'10''
197lbs not sure of BF but will post some pics soon
lifting non-stop for over a year and half (many more years experience though)

goals:
With this cycle lean mass is a given, but my overall goal is to gain about 10lbs while losing BF%. 205 to 210lbs at around 12% would be ideal.

workouts and diet:
I am doing GVT right now with a little change to fit my schedule. I am following a carb cycling protocol right now.


the goods:
***less than a week from 1st pin
wks 1-12 Test C @500 wk
wks 1-6 T-Bol starting at 30ED and increasing as I can handle it
wks 4-12 Mast @400 wk
wks 6-12 Winny@75 to 100 ED

staples
Cycle Assist -per label
Super Cissus
Fish Oil
CLA

PCT
starting
wk13
Nolv 40/40/20/20
Erase 0/2/2/3/2/2
Creatine
Versa 1

**On hand Aromasin/Letro/Forma Stanzolol
if anything starts to creep during cycle I will use the forma 1st and go from there.





I am logging the hell out of this because I need support and help along the way and for that I will thank you guys ahead of time because I know I can count on my bros!

[mustang0341]

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[LiveToLift]

So in this bro! Your only running 250 test or is that twice weekly?

[iparatroop]

[mustang0341]

So in this bro! Your only running 250 test or is that twice weekly?

glad to have you bro!

Yea I was told to keep the test low with the Mast. I asked about running it higher for maybe 4wks then lowering it when I started the Mast but the consensus was "not to." We'll see what others have to say I guess. This is not set in stone yet, I have a few days to get it dialed in.

thanks for joining man!

[iparatroop]

test-c and test-e are basically the same thing, if you weren't aware.

have you selected the site for your first pin?

[mustang0341]

test-c and test-e are basically the same thing, if you weren't aware.

have you selected the site for your first pin?

i have test "p" and test c

first will be thighs and glutes rotating left and right, maybe delts if I get ballsy enough

[Danb2285]

In man

[iparatroop]

I have only one pin under my belt so far and it was my right quad. I have to say that it was super accessible, quite painless and easy to do. A little PIP for a couple of days but just felt like DOMS.

[LiveToLift]

I have only one pin under my belt so far and it was my right quad. I have to say that it was super accessible, quite painless and easy to do. A little PIP for a couple of days but just felt like DOMS.

I'm a quad pinner myself. The PIP was almost completely irrelevant by about week 6. The first few weeks were real bad for me though. Felt like I took a bullet to the thigh or something!

[iparatroop]

I'm a quad pinned myself. The PIP was almost completely irrelevant by about week 6. The first few weeks were real bad for me though. Felt like I took a bullet to the thigh or something!

From what I've read, it may have something to do with the oil. Mine is prescription, so maybe that has something to do with it?
You stuck it out though and managed to put on a significant amount of lbm. Let's hope Stang can get the same results...

[Lukef2000]

I'm in bro!

[Lukef2000]

From what I've read, it may have something to do with the oil. Mine is prescription, so maybe that has something to do with it?
You stuck it out though and managed to put on a significant amount of lbm. Let's hope Stang can get the same results...

Normally bad PIP is from the benzyl alcohol content in gear, more BA more PIP.

[Lukef2000]

Man IMO I'd run the test cyp at 500mg/wk use the Tbol as an oral kick start and finish off with the winny. Winnys a good finisher helps dry you out and lean up nicely.

[mustang0341]

I'm in bro!

Man IMO I'd run the test cyp at 500mg/wk use the Tbol as an oral kick start and finish off with the winny. Winnys a good finisher helps dry you out and lean up nicely.

good to have you in here man!

I thought about that but I talked with someone about my pubertal gyno and we surmised that I might be more gyno prone. That is why I added the Mast since it will counteract that in the Test. I have a crap ton of Test Cyp though and I will most likely run it that high for my winter cycle.

[Montego1]

Subbed for cherry poppin

[Lukef2000]

good to have you in here man!

I thought about that but I talked with someone about my pubertal gyno and we surmised that I might be more gyno prone. That is why I added the Mast since it will counteract that in the Test. I have a crap ton of Test Cyp though and I will most likely run it that high for my winter cycle.

Since you have Pre existing gyno it's probably safe to say you are more gyno prone, but with the effects that mast has and aromasin has in controlling estrogen I would think you wouldn't have any problems with estrogen. Anyways bro I'm here to follow with whatever route you choose

[LiveToLift]

I too would swap the winny and tbol. As far as the gyno prone.... I wasn't gyno prone but fought it from week 3/4 on. I would use your AI and do low dose Nolva through cycle. A lot of people will say no you'll **** up your gains but I'm here to tell you I put on 23-25 pounds and kept 16-18 of them while running 10-20 Nolva and 12.5 aromasin daily.

Gyno is a ****ing nightmare. I thought I ****ed up bad because I waited to start my AI and Nolva til week 3-4. Luckily now the lumps have gone down.

[mustang0341]

Subbed for cherry poppin

Yea buddy, thanks for joining.

Since you have Pre existing gyno it's probably safe to say you are more gyno prone, but with the effects that mast has and aromasin has in controlling estrogen I would think you wouldn't have any problems with estrogen. Anyways bro I'm here to follow with whatever route you choose

Now you have me 2nd guessing it. The guys that I talked to made it sound like test should be lower than the mast. But on the other side with the low test and mast i shouldnt need the aromasin, well that was the plan anyway.

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[Airborne42]

You know I'm in bro!