1st cycle, short cycle test p log
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03-03-2013 12:39 AM
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1st cycle, short cycle test p log
Well, tomorrow morning will be the start of my 4-6 week test p cycle. 100mg eod. Plan is to update as often as possible with stats, some lifts, and pics as I can get them up. Hoping to have some good results to share and get more info on short cycles out there.
Starting info:
5'10" 25yrs
First cycle
Diet: 3000cal, 50/30/20 pro/carb/fat, all clean foods
Training: 2x/day, high rep supersets am, low rep and fst-7 pm; chest/back, legs/bis, shoulders/tris abs/calves(eod); 3 days on, 1 day cardio/abs/calves only (pm only), repeat
Ill update tomorrow with starting weight and bf%
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03-03-2013 02:40 PM
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Day 1:
Weight-164.5lb
Bf-7.7%
Pinned 100mg test p in my right ventroglut. Went perfectly. Morning supersets were good and afternoon lifts in a little bit. Took some pics that ill try to get up in a few days for a before/after. Actually really looking forward to my next pin ha. Just like getting a piercing, pretty addictive.
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03-04-2013 07:48 AM
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Day 2:
Weight:168.2 (first day with carbs again)
Right hip is a bit sore from the pin but nothing bad. Feels like a bruise at the worst. Planning on trying out pinning delts tomorrow. Legs/biceps today.
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03-04-2013 12:38 PM
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Where are you trying to go with this cycle? Bulk or cut... Also 2x Ed is a lot. If your Tryin to bulk your most Lilly gonna have to up the cal. 350mg prop isn't a lot. Not that I'm tellin you to up that dose just sayin.
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03-04-2013 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
usealittle
Where are you trying to go with this cycle? Bulk or cut... Also 2x Ed is a lot. If your Tryin to bulk your most Lilly gonna have to up the cal. 350mg prop isn't a lot. Not that I'm tellin you to up that dose just sayin.
Well I think I can cover most of your questions/thoughts... The plan is to bulk, but nothing too crazy. I'm trying to keep it as lean as possible which is why I've set it up the way I have. My 2 a days are basically weighted hi intensity cardio in the am (nothing to failure and only 2 sets) just to help spike gh/igf-1 in the morn as well as after a serious lift in the afternoon. As for the calories; I'm pretty slow metabolically and cut at 2000-2100 so 3k is a pretty hefty surplus to me especially after coming off a 13wk cut. The plan for the prop is to go 2 weeks and reevaluate where I'm at and tweak as nec. Could go up to 100mg Ed or 150mg eod depending on the sides/progress/etc. it's my first cycle so I'm sure there'll be some tweaking to do
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03-04-2013 04:16 PM
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Ok, still for the 2adays I think 150 3x wk would be best to start
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03-04-2013 04:49 PM
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Just curious what you've seen with prop before? You don't think it's worth waiting a week or two and then bumping up?
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03-04-2013 04:53 PM
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I'm not a fan of using more the. You need but I'm sayin that the dose you want to run is low for the workout you want to do... You can sure start at 300. Then 2 wks after you start up it if need be....
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03-04-2013 05:24 PM
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Ya I like the thought of upping only if nec as well. I have to give it at least a week since that'll allow me to see a few of the variables more clearly. First week will have 400 and 4 pins so that'll be a good starter for locations, timing, and reaction to the new training program. If I'm beat fired by end of week 1 or I'm deathly sore well after sessions ill be able to adjust then. I really appreciate the feedback. Always trying to learn more
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03-05-2013 07:58 PM
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Day 3:
Weight: 169.4lb
Pinned 100mg in my left glut first thing this morn. Decided to do glut instead of the delt since a) it's shoulder/tricep day and b) my legs were already sore from yesterday so I figured just lump it all together ha. No pip until late in the afternoon but now it's pretty sore. Ventroglut pip is totally gone so that's def gonna be on the rotation. Hopefully it's just the "newbie muscle" effect that's giving the pip at all and it'll quit once my body adjusts.
No real special feeling as of yet and nothing significant to speak of strength wise. From reading around ppl say usually 2-5 days is about when to expect to begin feeling prop so I'm anxiously awaiting tomorrow ha.
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03-06-2013 02:37 PM
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I feel it in two days. Start seeing strength gains in about 4 to 5 and size gains in seven.
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03-06-2013 07:38 PM
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Day 4:
Weight-172.4lb
First "off" day... Morning cardio was an hour and a half of shoveling the foot and a half of snow off my driveway ha. Woke up in the middle of the night last night sweating to all hell as feeling like I got hit by lightning (in a good way). Was hoping this would continue when I woke up in the morning but no dice. I decided to lower my calories a bit today as i wasnt working out hard so ill see how that affects me in the morning. Gym today was just abs calves and cardio so nothing to speak of. Left glut is pretty sore from yesterday's pin.
Gonna try the delt tomorrow morning. Ill be interested in the strength aspect of tomorrow's workout to compare with day 1.
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03-07-2013 07:29 AM
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Day 5:
Weight-173.3
Damn my ass hurts! I was hoping the pip would be gone by today as it was with the vg pin but no such luck. May actually be a bit worse then yesterday. I can prob attribute some of this to the fact that i was about as steady as michael j fox with all the twisting to reach back there.
Pinned left delt this morn and it went pretty smoothly. Hopefully it doesnt get as sore as the glut so ill have at least 4 good sites (vg/delt) and won't have to do gluts again. Strength was the same as Sunday so nothing special yet. I'd like to have more of a "feel" by now then I do but maybe I'm just expecting too much? Afternoon lift should be good either way (chest/back).
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03-08-2013 03:11 PM
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Day 6:
Weight- 174.6lb
Gym yesterday was great. A bit stronger on all lifts (few more reps- chest/back). Took a long hit bath to see how that helped with the pip and it seems to have worked some. Glut is feeling better and shoulder (yesterday's pin) is sore/a bit red but nothing too bad. Had a good am leg workout but my right elbow joint is pretty sore. May have tweaked something during presses yesterday and didn't feel it right away. Luckily today is legs/bis (bis really don't need as much work as I have pretty solid peaks naturally) so I may take it a little lighter on the bis.
Really starting to feel good overall now. Body temp seems to be up a bit as I keep my house pretty cold and I've been having trouble cooling off ha. Also some epic night sweating at times.
Diet is great (enjoyment wise ha) but I feel like I'm getting a bit softer then I want and gaining too fast so I may tweak things a bit starting next week and begin cycling my carbs and cals to help with this.
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03-08-2013 05:25 PM
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Well you Gained 10 pounds in 6 days that's a lot it's good that the strength is coming up and that you're feeling better in the gym which means it's working so it sounds like you're well on your way to a good cycle cleanup clean it up a little bit and you'll be alright.
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03-08-2013 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
usealittle
Well you Gained 10 pounds in 6 days that's a lot it's good that the strength is coming up and that you're feeling better in the gym which means it's working so it sounds like you're well on your way to a good cycle cleanup clean it up a little bit and you'll be alright.
I expected to gain a lot of weight the first week due to just having come off a 13wk cut, the last wk of which was almost zero carb. That said, I'm a big advocate of not letting your body get away from you before trying to change.
Gym was great again today, PR on leg press and great reps all around. Narrowed down the elbow pain to the back of my elbow/tricep. It's a bit sore to the touch and hurts more when my arm is bent then when the tri is flexed. I'm gonna massage/ice/heat it tonight an see how it goes. Debating whether to pin a quad tomorrow (first time) or go back the the ventroglut. Guess ill see what I'm feeling in the morning ha
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03-09-2013 06:47 PM
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Day 7:
Weight-176.1
Started the day off by pinning the right quad (left glut and delt are still a bit sore so I figured I'd spread the wealth ha). Smoothest pin yet so hopefully that'll help with the pip. Morning shoulder/tri workout I had such a serious pump going I thought my shoulders were gonna explode. Just an amazing feeling.
Spent the afternoon laying out my carb cycling (and took a nap ha). Gonna follow the carb cycling codex so starting tomorrow it'll be 3 low carb and 2 each moderate/high carb days per wk. tomorrow will be a low day and I think I'll just rotate low/mod/high as much as possible unless a high carb day falls on an off day.
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03-09-2013 07:17 PM
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03-09-2013 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
hardwork25
I'm in! Looks good
Good to have you along for the ride!
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03-10-2013 05:11 PM
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Day 8:
Weight-175.3
Looks like my weight leveled off finally so ill have to keep and eye on my body more so then weight now to make my adjustments. Elbow is feeling a bit better but I tweaked my hip flexor playing hockey last night but hopefully that won't effect anything. Today's my "off" day (cardio/abs/calves only) so I should get a chance to rest a bit more.
Quad pinned yesterday is only a tiny bit achy today which is great. Shoulder and glut are pretty much pip free so the rotation going fwd will be delts/quads/ventrogluts which should be plenty for eod. I'm gonna bump up to 150mg this week since I will only be getting in 3 pins (mon/wed/fri) and so far haven't seen any sides.
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