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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Gearing up for a new squat max attempt next week and already been doing triples the last few weeks so it was time to get some real weight on my back. This was my last heavy squat before go time next week, so I used a high box to overload the bar with more weight than I'll even attempt since ROM is cut by 2-3" higher than parallel. Full ROM on first 3 warmup sets for obvious reasons.

    2-3" above Parallel Boxsquat 135x10, 225x5, 315x5, 365x2, 385x2, 405x2, 425x1, 445x1, 455x1, 465x1 (had a nip of assistance coming off box)
    Legpress 6plates/side x12, 7x12, 8x12, 9x12, 10x9 (feet set close & low to load quads more)
    Leg Extensions 110x12, 150x12, 190x12, 230x11


    I don't normally boxsquat, so all the weight was new territory. Felt good, will probably attempt 435 or 440. Or 440 if I nail 435. We'll see!

    Weight belt was noticeably looser - I'll have to adjust my lever for next week. This explains the scale - I'm getting stronger and have gained some muscle but I'm losing a bit of fat.
    Big #'s buddy but we all know your legs are in boss mode right now.. Keep at it Hyde, how many days you have left with this run??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    If you want them to get harder do them from a relaxed dead stop on the floor every time. Removing the stretch reflex at the bottom makes the weight feel much heavier.
    Did not know this def will give it a try next back session..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Only because dry chicken does not really have any fat to slow absorption of the dry baked potato down.

    You are killing it in here man. Those DB Rows are beast mode. If you want them to get harder do them from a relaxed dead stop on the floor every time. Removing the stretch reflex at the bottom makes the weight feel much heavier.
    Great dietary info, I've read that before but one of those things you kind of forget before you ever apply it (unfortunately).

    Cutting out the reflex and body english makes a world of difference for sure - it's humbling how much lighter you have to go if you up the TUT and cut the stored energy out. These were more done like 'Kroc Rows,' a high-rep AND heavy db row set done with english designed more to test grip and endurance. These just flat out killed me, and normally 20+ reps for the last set is the goal. Who does that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    Big #'s buddy but we all know your legs are in boss mode right now.. Keep at it Hyde, how many days you have left with this run??
    Thanks man, trying to raise that total! I'd say about 14 days if I'm not mistaken. Heading to Memphis for a 3-day wknd on the 26-8th with a friend and won't be able to train so trying to time it as first few days of pct. Girl I'm going with knows about the roids but it'll be alot easier just hitting the doses I'll need morning and night vs the 5-6 times thru the day I'm dropping pills powders and chems right now on cycle.

    I figure a wknd of bbq and relaxation will be a nice interlude between the heavy grind of this cycle and the new beginning of natty training come pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post

    Thanks man, trying to raise that total! I'd say about 14 days if I'm not mistaken. Heading to Memphis for a 3-day wknd on the 26-8th with a friend and won't be able to train so trying to time it as first few days of pct. Girl I'm going with knows about the roids but it'll be alot easier just hitting the doses I'll need morning and night vs the 5-6 times thru the day I'm dropping pills powders and chems right now on cycle.

    I figure a wknd of bbq and relaxation will be a nice interlude between the heavy grind of this cycle and the new beginning of natty training come pct.
    Two weeks is still a long time many more PRs to come. You live in TN?? My company owned alot of property in Nashville And Knoxville. No better my to end a cycle but with some R&R and female time!! Load up on DAA for some HIIT cardio with the lady!! Lol
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    Lol I have plenty of DAA, plus Testopro and Massularia for natty boostage, nevermind the creatine, Glycobol and Ostabol to help keep the fullness up and of course Clomid, Exemestane, arimistane, l-dopa to get the hormones balance right! Looking fwd to my strongest pct yet - last one I continued to gain since I was just coming off a modified dhea cycle like your current one.

    I'm in the St. Louis suburbs, so about 5 hrs from Memphis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Lol I have plenty of DAA, plus Testopro and Massularia for natty boostage, nevermind the creatine, Glycobol and Ostabol to help keep the fullness up and of course Clomid, Exemestane, arimistane, l-dopa to get the hormones balance right! Looking fwd to my strongest pct yet - last one I continued to gain since I was just coming off a modified dhea cycle like your current one.

    I'm in the St. Louis suburbs, so about 5 hrs from Memphis.
    That's it for PCT lmao!! I do the same I feel more is more in PCT.. Nothing better than continued gains off cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Lol I have plenty of DAA, plus Testopro and Massularia for natty boostage, nevermind the creatine, Glycobol and Ostabol to help keep the fullness up and of course Clomid, Exemestane, arimistane, l-dopa to get the hormones balance right! Looking fwd to my strongest pct yet - last one I continued to gain since I was just coming off a modified dhea cycle like your current one.

    I'm in the St. Louis suburbs, so about 5 hrs from Memphis.
    Wow thats a lot for PCT. Also id stay away from ostabol during PCT as IMO it will counteract what you are trying to do.

    Thatd just my opinion though, things are looking good in here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Gearing up for a new squat max attempt next week and already been doing triples the last few weeks so it was time to get some real weight on my back. This was my last heavy squat before go time next week, so I used a high box to overload the bar with more weight than I'll even attempt since ROM is cut by 2-3" higher than parallel. Full ROM on first 3 warmup sets for obvious reasons.

    2-3" above Parallel Boxsquat 135x10, 225x5, 315x5, 365x2, 385x2, 405x2, 425x1, 445x1, 455x1, 465x1 (had a nip of assistance coming off box)
    Legpress 6plates/side x12, 7x12, 8x12, 9x12, 10x9 (feet set close & low to load quads more)
    Leg Extensions 110x12, 150x12, 190x12, 230x11

    I don't normally boxsquat, so all the weight was new territory. Felt good, will probably attempt 435 or 440. Or 440 if I nail 435. We'll see!

    Weight belt was noticeably looser - I'll have to adjust my lever for next week. This explains the scale - I'm getting stronger and have gained some muscle but I'm losing a bit of fat.
    Holy crap on those squat numbers dude!! Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Lol I have plenty of DAA, plus Testopro and Massularia for natty boostage, nevermind the creatine, Glycobol and Ostabol to help keep the fullness up and of course Clomid, Exemestane, arimistane, l-dopa to get the hormones balance right! Looking fwd to my strongest pct yet - last one I continued to gain since I was just coming off a modified dhea cycle like your current one.

    I'm in the St. Louis suburbs, so about 5 hrs from Memphis.
    You should throw low dose nolva in there. 20mg/day first 2 weeks and 10mg the rest. Trust me
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Wow thats a lot for PCT. Also id stay away from ostabol during PCT as IMO it will counteract what you are trying to do.

    Thatd just my opinion though, things are looking good in here
    Thanks man, it sounds like people have success at just 10mg/ed of ostarine without any measurable shutdown. Thinking 10mg e/d over 6wks and saving the other half of bottle for later. I'm not deadset on it but leaning towards it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    You should throw low dose nolva in there. 20mg/day first 2 weeks and 10mg the rest. Trust me
    Those squats were above parallel by 2-3 inches haha, they don't count for jack. Just trying to get ready to max and build confidence.

    Why would you add nolva here brother? Clomid is a decent SERM plus exemestane as a suicide as long as I need it into as much arimistane thereafter as I please. Plus doming off prami into 500mg 98-9% ldopa e/d, seems like gyno shouldn't be an issue. Got some RC letro from the same company in case here too with enough exemestane to come off that if necessary, so really don't wanna order the nolva unless there's something I'm missing here?
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    Day 43


    Yesterday hit some chest and tris up, got very heavy on flatbench with long rests between the singles and then focused on volume and a good squeeze for rest of workout with a brisker pace. Probably gonna have next bench session be supramaximal weight off of boardpresses or floorpresses and following time go for a true new 1RM. I need 280 to PR and progress hasn't been what I've hoped on bench this cycle but there's still time.

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    Incline Bb Bench 139x13, 159x10, 179x10, 189x10
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    This morning went in early at 10 to meet up with my protege for his dealift pr attempt. He huffed ammonia for the first time and pulled 475 from the floor clean without a hitch and no belt or straps or anything with great form - I was so proud of him Meanwhile I did a bunch of light speed pulls from a big 3" deficit to get ready for my max next week. After that we bro'd out and did a bunch of bicep work.

    3" Deficit Speed Pulls 139x12, x10, 229x8, 279x3, 3, 299x 3, 3, 3, 329x3, 3
    Straightbar Bicep Curls 50x10, 70x10, 90x10, 100x8, 105x8 (PR)
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    Went with a buddy to the Cheesecake Factory after for his bday. Had a big awesome Cuban sandwich with a ridiculous piece of cheesecake. Think I may go back to gym after this dose of roids and do some trap/forearm/calf work and cardio. I need to unload some of these calories!
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    You had cheesecake?? Damn you Hyde!! Lol jk
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    Congrats on the PRs and the volume! Alas, to be young again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post

    Those squats were above parallel by 2-3 inches haha, they don't count for jack. Just trying to get ready to max and build confidence.

    Why would you add nolva here brother? Clomid is a decent SERM plus exemestane as a suicide as long as I need it into as much arimistane thereafter as I please. Plus doming off prami into 500mg 98-9% ldopa e/d, seems like gyno shouldn't be an issue. Got some RC letro from the same company in case here too with enough exemestane to come off that if necessary, so really don't wanna order the nolva unless there's something I'm missing here?
    Clomid eventually desensitizes LH receptors. Nolva keeps them sensitized
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    Clomid eventually desensitizes LH receptors. Nolva keeps them sensitized
    I forgot about this, ty Swankster. This will be my 3rd time with Clomid, never ran Nolva. Will prob pass this cycle but will def incorporate next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post

    I forgot about this, ty Swankster. This will be my 3rd time with Clomid, never ran Nolva. Will prob pass this cycle but will def incorporate next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    Clomid eventually desensitizes LH receptors. Nolva keeps them sensitized
    short timeframe of pct is not troublesome to worry about desensitized lh receptors
    nolva used as pct is ridiculous to advise, unless there is gyno one is trying to eliminate
    clomid does what pct was meant for ie hpta function (bring those boys back!)

    advising nolva for pct is a pet-peeve of mine
    i'm not a fan of women breast cancer drug for any reason other than trying to eliminate old gyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    short timeframe of pct is not troublesome to worry about desensitized lh receptors
    nolva used as pct is ridiculous to advise, unless there is gyno one is trying to eliminate
    clomid does what pct was meant for ie hpta function (bring those boys back!)

    advising nolva for pct is a pet-peeve of mine
    i'm not a fan of women breast cancer drug for any reason other than trying to eliminate old gyno
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    I very much appreciate everyone's input in this thread; just wanted you guys to know it.

    Been looking into Prami usage; I bumped to 1.2g last night but it sounds like 1g is top of the normal range. If intending to go higher people on other boards were proponents of splitting it across 2 doses. Will probably return to 1g every evening thru end of cycle, then taper off thru pct and bring in ldopa (probably).

    Sounds like it's completely unnecessary to taper off Prami as there may only be a couple days of insomnia at worst. I would just be tapering as I expect I would need a little time to further lower prolactin after finishing the hormones but a full g/day would be overkill off the cycle. Same for exemestane since it's suicidal. Then transition that to some arimistane.
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    Day 44


    Since the msten has to be in a 12mg and 8mg dose I took the 12mg this morning for an earlier shoulder workout. Also popped a 15mg cap of that leftover Cyanostane for gigs. Got pretty intense today, I think from the cyano; had to put the Pantera on and just kept grinding sets out.
    Smith bar obv isn't 45lbs at all but it's easier to visualize that way so weights are always listed as such.

    Seated Smith Military Press 115x10, 135x10, 185x10, 205x8, 225x4 (PR)
    Seated Arnold Presses 60s x12, 65s x12, 70s x9 (PR maybe? Or tie)
    HS Shoulder Press 80/side x12, 12, 13
    Lateral Raises 25s x12, 30s x12, 12
    High Pulley Kneeling Facepulls Did the whole rack skipping every other plate for 12 reps each trying to hit working weight. 87.5 or 95 (the last setting) seems right for next time. I was pumped and burning after this.
    Seated Alternating Front Raises 30s x14, 35s x12, 40s x13 (PR bigtime, going beserk)

    Can't believe how hard I went on the front raises, never managed that many reps with 40s even standing, let alone seated. Every time people talked to me today I noticed their eyes scoping out my shoulder/arm veins. Must be what a chick feels like when peeps can't take their eyes off her cans

    Also, running several grams of taurine in morning shake, had low cal g2 gatorade with 3-4g taurine starting workout, hit a scoop of Scivation Xtend after that for more potassium, electrolytes and taurine, a crap ton of water, and 3g taurine w/ post shake. Finally beating some bad postworkout cramping I've been getting the last week, got the formula down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Since the msten has to be in a 12mg and 8mg dose I took the 12mg this morning for an earlier shoulder workout. Also popped a 15mg cap of that leftover Cyanostane for gigs. Got pretty intense today, I think from the cyano; had to put the Pantera on and just kept grinding sets out.
    Smith bar obv isn't 45lbs at all but it's easier to visualize that way so weights are always listed as such.

    Seated Smith Military Press 115x10, 135x10, 185x10, 205x8, 225x4 (PR)
    Seated Arnold Presses 60s x12, 65s x12, 70s x9 (PR maybe? Or tie)
    HS Shoulder Press 80/side x12, 12, 13
    Lateral Raises 25s x12, 30s x12, 12
    High Pulley Kneeling Facepulls Did the whole rack skipping every other plate for 12 reps each trying to hit working weight. 87.5 or 95 (the last setting) seems right for next time. I was pumped and burning after this.
    Seated Alternating Front Raises 30s x14, 35s x12, 40s x13 (PR bigtime, going beserk)

    Can't believe how hard I went on the front raises, never managed that many reps with 40s even standing, let alone seated. Every time people talked to me today I noticed their eyes scoping out my shoulder/arm veins. Must be what a chick feels like when peeps can't take their eyes off her cans

    Also, running several grams of taurine in morning shake, had low cal g2 gatorade with 3-4g taurine starting workout, hit a scoop of Scivation Xtend after that for more potassium, electrolytes and taurine, a crap ton of water, and 3g taurine w/ post shake. Finally beating some bad postworkout cramping I've been getting the last week, got the formula down!
    Military press numbers are impressive dude!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Since the msten has to be in a 12mg and 8mg dose I took the 12mg this morning for an earlier shoulder workout. Also popped a 15mg cap of that leftover Cyanostane for gigs. Got pretty intense today, I think from the cyano; had to put the Pantera on and just kept grinding sets out.
    Smith bar obv isn't 45lbs at all but it's easier to visualize that way so weights are always listed as such.

    Seated Smith Military Press 115x10, 135x10, 185x10, 205x8, 225x4 (PR)
    Seated Arnold Presses 60s x12, 65s x12, 70s x9 (PR maybe? Or tie)
    HS Shoulder Press 80/side x12, 12, 13
    Lateral Raises 25s x12, 30s x12, 12
    High Pulley Kneeling Facepulls Did the whole rack skipping every other plate for 12 reps each trying to hit working weight. 87.5 or 95 (the last setting) seems right for next time. I was pumped and burning after this.
    Seated Alternating Front Raises 30s x14, 35s x12, 40s x13 (PR bigtime, going beserk)

    Can't believe how hard I went on the front raises, never managed that many reps with 40s even standing, let alone seated. Every time people talked to me today I noticed their eyes scoping out my shoulder/arm veins. Must be what a chick feels like when peeps can't take their eyes off her cans

    Also, running several grams of taurine in morning shake, had low cal g2 gatorade with 3-4g taurine starting workout, hit a scoop of Scivation Xtend after that for more potassium, electrolytes and taurine, a crap ton of water, and 3g taurine w/ post shake. Finally beating some bad postworkout cramping I've been getting the last week, got the formula down!
    Yeah dude big press and Arnold #s!!! Also how'd you like those face pulls?? Your last couple of workout have been marathons! Keep smashing the last week of the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    Yeah dude big press and Arnold #s!!! Also how'd you like those face pulls?? Your last couple of workout have been marathons! Keep smashing the last week of the cycle.
    They were awesome, first time I've ever been able to do them with appropriate weight and hit the muscle how I intended. Def gonna use them often from here on out man.

    Trying to get a lot of decently weighted volume on upper body while on cycle to (hopefully) push some growth where I need it most. Plus when I come off I will get heavier and decrease volume during pct to compensate for the loss of superman powers, linear periodization style. Higher reps now will make the transition feel stronger when I start lifting heavier & natty.

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    Day 45


    Weight has been 214.6 for 2 days in a row now (+10.2lbs from start).

    Taking tomorrow fully off (unfortunately) to get body ready for max squat wednesday evening. Tomorrow will be tons of carbs and higher calories to saturate my body and get locked and loaded - in powerlifting, we call this "getting jacked" or "getting fat"

    Tonight went in to practice form one last time on squat, extremely light and low volume (135x10 and 225 for 5x3). As for an actual workout, had to stay light & away from muscles I'll be using in the squat weds, so tonight I shredded chest like a bodybuilder and some alternating bicep and tricep stuff thrown in at the end. I'll spare the details but I had an awesome workout and had some sick pumps afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Weight has been 214.6 for 2 days in a row now (+10.2lbs from start).

    Taking tomorrow fully off (unfortunately) to get body ready for max squat wednesday evening. Tomorrow will be tons of carbs and higher calories to saturate my body and get locked and loaded - in powerlifting, we call this "getting jacked" or "getting fat"

    Tonight went in to practice form one last time on squat, extremely light and low volume (135x10 and 225 for 5x3). As for an actual workout, had to stay light & away from muscles I'll be using in the squat weds, so tonight I shredded chest like a bodybuilder and some alternating bicep and tricep stuff thrown in at the end. I'll spare the details but I had an awesome workout and had some sick pumps afterward.

    Gonna bump Msten to 24mg starting tomorrow - 12mg twice daily. If that goes well last day of cycle will be the 23rd.
    So sad when the cycles come to an end

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    So sad when the cycles come to an end

    In for max squat day! GETEM
    Agreed!! It's been a fun log to follow. Kill it this last week my man!!!
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    Your killing this Hyde.
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    I'm pumped to see a PR on MAX SQUAT!!! You got this Hyde!!
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    Day 46


    Thanks everyone for having my back - really excited for tomorrow. Planning to decimate or let the bar drive me into the pins, but I'm not gonna back down.

    Work is dead slow so I was fortunate enough to take the rest of the week off - meaning I will also have great rest going into this tomorrow! Working thru a box of wholegrain pasta and jar of sauce and whatever other carbs I can manage. Msten at 24mg e/d feels fine, no different from 20 as I was already used to one 12mg dose daily and now both are. Hitting LOTS of taurine and electrolytes, intra drinks and gatorade have been my best buds. Gonna tighten the lever a notch on my weightbelt tonight and watch a bunch of giant squat vids on youtube and get crazy tomorrow!

    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Make the BB your bitch
    You know it brother, only way to move big weight is to move it like you own it and nobody's gonna stop you

    As an aside, it sucks taking today off. I'm keeping my eyes on the prize tomorrow, but recovery since I've been at 20mg of Ultradrol has been incredible. No soreness, no DOMS, I smashed my chest last night and I feel as if I could do it again right now, less than 24hrs later! Phenomenal stuff really, no sides to manage other than back pumps and cramps which I've virtually eliminated. Urine is darkening but still a mild yellow, I believe I'll make the end of cycle with no orange yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Agreed!! It's been a fun log to follow. Kill it this last week my man!!!
    You know that's right!
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    8 days to go with Msten going full hog at the biggest dose yet should be a worthy finale - definitely still time to strengthen and alter my body significantly.
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    Day 47


    Crushed it today and then some...morning weight was only 210.8 and I definitely had to bring my weightbelt in a notch before I hit the gym to max on backsquat. I'll always take stronger and leaner for now. Winning!

    Bb Backsquat 135x10, 225x5, 275x3, 315x2, 365x1, 405x1, 435x1, 445x1 (PR's, 20lbs added to total!)

    Incline treadmill steady state cardio for 18min to sweat a bit and calm down



    This was really epic for me. Been like 3 months since I PR'd on squat. 435 was just barely to parallel, I mean it may not have even passed in every federation. 445 though was ALL the way thru parallel, nobody would have questioned that baby. I think if I'd done it all over I could have gotten 450 or 455, I barely hit a sticking point on 445. Was awesome to huff some ammonia caps for first time in forever, but ammonia use for 2 lifts is about all I'm good for tho. I think if I'd tried another attempt I'd have bombed just from exhaustion. To say I was worked up was an understatement, felt jacked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Crushed it today and then some...morning weight was only 210.8 and I definitely had to bring my weightbelt in a notch before I hit the gym to max on backsquat. I'll always take stronger and leaner for now. Winning!

    Bb Backsquat 135x10, 225x5, 275x3, 315x2, 365x1, 405x1, 435x1, 445x1 (PR's, 20lbs added to total!)

    Incline treadmill steady state cardio for 18min to sweat a bit and calm down



    This was really epic for me. Been like 3 months since I PR'd on squat. 435 was just barely to parallel, I mean it may not have even passed in every federation. 445 though was ALL the way thru parallel, nobody would have questioned that baby. I think if I'd done it all over I could have gotten 450 or 455, I barely hit a sticking point on 445. Was awesome to huff some ammonia caps for first time in forever, but ammonia use for 2 lifts is about all I'm good for tho. I think if I'd tried another attempt I'd have bombed just from exhaustion. To say I was worked up was an understatement, felt jacked
    Wow Hyde I knew you'd kill that PR!! You squat #'s make me look like a child I'm so jealous!!
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    Damn Hyde. Great log. Looks like pct is in check nod watch that osta if I were you. Noticed it giving me sensitive nips in pct. if you're that concerned with throwing everything at it, try igf. Something I did last pct and will be doing from here on out. It was fcking amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Damn Hyde. Great log. Looks like pct is in check nod watch that osta if I were you. Noticed it giving me sensitive nips in pct. if you're that concerned with throwing everything at it, try igf. Something I did last pct and will be doing from here on out. It was fcking amazing
    I may hold off on it then, something fun if I take an extended off-time from hormones but prob not worth messing with in pct if it'll slow restart AND I have to get off the exeme & prami and get things balanced out. Would be too hard to tell if it's osta or my hormones still out of line.
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