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    Peptides?! I'm behind....have you done any kind of pinning before Hyde? What did you get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    Peptides?! I'm behind....have you done any kind of pinning before Hyde? What did you get?
    Hyde your doin peps too?!

    Im getting eight 5mg ipamorelin, and 18 2mg cjc 1295 w/dac.

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    All this pep talk makes me all tingly.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    Peptides?! I'm behind....have you done any kind of pinning before Hyde? What did you get?
    Lol sorry I was being clever to obey sourcing rules...no, no pins for this guy. Don't really have much interest in em; they're more of a bodybuilding tool if you ask me. Shaving fat, increasing hunger, better recovery, increases in muscle mass without increase in strength (directly, at least).

    If they were free and not so much bunk crap out there, sign me up. But for my current interests and budget they're just way unnecessary. I already feel like I should be stronger for my weight. Oh well, one day at a time...
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    Day 27


    Just bombed .5mg of Prami, it felt funny dropping only .25ml of liquid. The prami solution is def less violent on the throat than the exemestane. Not that it's bad, the ex is just really chemical-y and the pram was almost sweet.

    Holding off on letro and continuing original cycle plans for more 4AD and DecaSARM in a few days. The 1-Alpha is holding/increasing strength sans cyanostane quite well; weight dropped 3lbs of water and glycogen almost overnight after I dropped the cyano but been holding steady at 211 since for the last couple days.

    Smashed some back tonight, threw a bit of bicep work in after. Pump almost hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    I take prami first thing in tw morning, that stuff really makes me feel ill, and If I take it at 6am then I don't notice any sides. .5 is the highest you should need. I'm blasting high test and deca and only using .3, I would start at a lower dose but if it doesn't bother u go for it.

    Pr was skull rushers for 140lbs I think it's in my log.
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    Yeah estane is 25mg/ml ur going to taste that. Anything under 5mg/ml is pretty much easy on the taste buds
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    My research comes capped no taste. May want to look at prami and suspension in liquid- wasnt doable/stayed stabled=junk
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    My research comes capped no taste. May want to look at prami and suspension in liquid- wasnt doable/stayed stabled=junk
    Prami is stable in liquid, caber on the other hand is not stable in liquid
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post

    Prami is stable in liquid, caber on the other hand is not stable in liquid
    Son.of.uh

    I knew when i was typing that it didnt look right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    Son.of.uh

    I knew when i was typing that it didnt look right.

    ...carry on...
    I did manage to get my hands on some pharm caber. But have yet to run it. Prami is so cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post

    I did manage to get my hands on some pharm caber. But have yet to run it. Prami is so cheap.
    Ill always go prami>caber
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    Glad you finally feel confident with the nipple situation. They can get consuming, then you end up rubbing them or feeling on them squeezing for bumps and then that worsens how sensitive they are. Makes us think we are getting worse. Leave them be for a few days while giving the RC's a chance to do their thing and you will b fine I am sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Glad you finally feel confident with the nipple situation. They can get consuming, then you end up rubbing them or feeling on them squeezing for bumps and then that worsens how sensitive they are. Makes us think we are getting worse. Leave them be for a few days while giving the RC's a chance to do their thing and you will b fine I am sure.
    That's the truth. I remember the first time I had an issue. It was so small I wouldn't even consider it as a problem now.
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    They already seem like they may be a bit better. For sure no worse today; the last few days it seemed a bit worse or more sensitive each day. I took that exeme at 4:30pm yesterday and kept waking up all night/had trouble sleeping. But woke very refreshed so no worries. I felt kinda weird all evening too but I assume that was the prami taken at 8? Idk, idc, I'm gonna ride this thing thru unless something crazy happens.
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    Prami makes it hard for me to sleep, gives me chills, and makes my legs feel twitchy. But yeah I'd imaging ur nipps will get better fast. From what I've read it really wasn't that bad. It just had the potential to get bad. The first time I ran tren I got gyno the size if a nickel in both nipps. That was terrifying. Lectro at 2.5mg for 2 weeks cleared it up. (After I was off the tren) now I run prami on the front end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    They already seem like they may be a bit better. For sure no worse today; the last few days it seemed a bit worse or more sensitive each day. I took that exeme at 4:30pm yesterday and kept waking up all night/had trouble sleeping. But woke very refreshed so no worries. I felt kinda weird all evening too but I assume that was the prami taken at 8? Idk, idc, I'm gonna ride this thing thru unless something crazy happens.
    That's great Hyde glad you'll soon be able to put your mind at ease and focus on the task at hand. Tear ****z up !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Prami makes it hard for me to sleep, gives me chills, and makes my legs feel twitchy. But yeah I'd imaging ur nipps will get better fast. From what I've read it really wasn't that bad. It just had the potential to get bad. The first time I ran tren I got gyno the size if a nickel in both nipps. That was terrifying. Lectro at 2.5mg for 2 weeks cleared it up. (After I was off the tren) now I run prami on the front end.
    Front load prami? For everything or just tren n other harsh shyt?
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    No just tren, I had no problem with deca till I threw in some M1T. So I just started using prami like 11 weeks in to this blast. But normally just tren. That stuff goes straight for my nips. I'm going to try trt test dose with tren next time see if things go better
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Prami makes it hard for me to sleep, gives me chills, and makes my legs feel twitchy. But yeah I'd imaging ur nipps will get better fast. From what I've read it really wasn't that bad. It just had the potential to get bad. The first time I ran tren I got gyno the size if a nickel in both nipps. That was terrifying. Lectro at 2.5mg for 2 weeks cleared it up. (After I was off the tren) now I run prami on the front end.
    Prami made your legs twitchy? Thats odd, they prescribe prami to treat RLS.

    Prami made me sleep pretty hard, no nausea but i did wake a few times groggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    Prami made your legs twitchy? Thats odd, they prescribe prami to treat RLS.

    Prami made me sleep pretty hard, no nausea but i did wake a few times groggy.
    Yeah I know, it's one of the possiable side effects. WTF. Like taking nausea medicine that could make u nauseated. Yeah it decently makes me groggy. Benadryl and ketofin also make my legs twitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    WTF. Like taking nausea medicine that could make u nauseated.
    Gotta love that. Its like using an inhaler and the warning label says "warning may cause shortness of breath" lol WTH?!
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    Actually it was def the prami then, had all your sides Chris except the legs. Took it after gym again yesterday but went out for a late night driving some friends and felt fine all evening and slept like a baby. .5mg def isn't a prob for me, will prob bump to .3-.35ml tmr from the 2mgxml bottle. I'd worry it's bunk except the sleeping issues you described.
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    Day 28


    This is yesterday's workout. Was just tired after work. Not lethargic, just didn't get enough sleep after the first night with Prami. Almost skipped my workout for a nap since I was on a time crunch anyway. I downed a sample of VPX NO Shotgun (love the profile) I got with my Alpha20 yesterday (presale baby!) and sat on the couch for a sec and nearly fell asleep still. After a good slap to the face and a few yeah buddys I got out the door to load some weight on my shoulders.

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    I didn't have enough time to play with everything I wanted but I figured if I should do one thing it was squat, and I did. Well. Last time I tried 405 for a double first couple days of cycle I bombed, so 3 full reps after other good heavy work was awesome. Accessory work was limited but high intensity over maybe 20min.
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    Day 29


    Hit chest/back of tris today, bench is continuing to improve and loving it. First time in a longgg time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    This is yesterday's workout. Was just tired after work. Not lethargic, just didn't get enough sleep after the first night with Prami. Almost skipped my workout for a nap since I was on a time crunch anyway. I downed a sample of VPX NO Shotgun (love the profile) I got with my Alpha20 yesterday (presale baby!) and sat on the couch for a sec and nearly fell asleep still. After a good slap to the face and a few yeah buddys I got out the door to load some weight on my shoulders.

    Bb Backsquat 135x10, 225x5, 315x5, 370x3, 390x3, 405x3 (PR, this was awesome for me)
    Leg Extensions superset w/ Lying Leg Curl 150x12 & 90x12, 190x12 & 110x12, 230x12 & 130x12, 250x10 & 150x12 (Both PR's)
    Seated Calf Raises 5 sets or so med-heavy-med-light weight for me; didn't add it up

    I didn't have enough time to play with everything I wanted but I figured if I should do one thing it was squat, and I did. Well. Last time I tried 405 for a double first couple days of cycle I bombed, so 3 full reps after other good heavy work was awesome. Accessory work was limited but high intensity over maybe 20min.
    **** yeah !!! Try taking the prami first thing in the morning. I actually have an alarm at 6am go off, dose, then go back to bed.
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    Your workouts are getting better and better bro. 405 for 3 is awesome considering you couldn't touch it at the beginning
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    Nice work Hyde loving that PR good for you man
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    Day 30


    Last day of first half of cycle. Off day, ate tons of food, mostly fatty meats and simple carbs. Bumped Prami to .7mg today and dosed it first thing in the morning with exeme. Mistake. Absolutely knocked me on my ass, all day. Before I ever started eating, and I felt tired and sore and sick. It's gone now and I feel fine, but for seriously 8 hours. Also my 2nd piss after dosing was orange, like the end of my Epi cycle with no TUDCA. It was fine rest of day, but all this is telling me go back to exeme in the morn and prami in the evening, and going back to .5mg e/d. Also opening another bottle of TUDCA since I finished one today, these RCs are obv harsh on me. I haven't had orange pee all cycle, not even with the methyl. Not even close. So def gonna space the chems out and keep TUDCA in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Last day of first half of cycle. Off day, ate tons of food, mostly fatty meats and simple carbs. Bumped Prami to .7mg today and dosed it first thing in the morning with exeme. Mistake. Absolutely knocked me on my ass, all day. Before I ever started eating, and I felt tired and sore and sick. It's gone now and I feel fine, but for seriously 8 hours. Also my 2nd piss after dosing was orange, like the end of my Epi cycle with no TUDCA. It was fine rest of day, but all this is telling me go back to exeme in the morn and prami in the evening, and going back to .5mg e/d. Also opening another bottle of TUDCA since I finished one today, these RCs are obv harsh on me. I haven't had orange pee all cycle, not even with the methyl. Not even close. So def gonna space the chems out and keep TUDCA in.

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    More water, i like NAC for liver regeneration/detox.. TUDCAs good ish too. Hope that clears up bro!
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    Haha, sorry my advice back fired.
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    I def need to find a way to increase my water intake; I just need to set times every day I go chug an extra 20oz of water. I drink a gallon or so now but an extra half gallon could do wonders I bet.

    With Talos finished and Super Cycle in I'll be getting 800mg of NAC e/d thru a month of pct, plus anything I may pick up from Revolution later on.

    And no worries Chris, I don't blame you or anyone in the slightest. I probably ramped up too soon, or I'm just not made for .7mg. Gonna go to .5 tonight and stay with that for a bit unless things get bad. But chest isn't worsening at all.
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    Do you carry a water bottle around with you? I carry a 20oz bottle with me at work and fill it numerous times throughout the day. When I'm home is when I struggle with keeping up on my water intake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Do you carry a water bottle around with you? I carry a 20oz bottle with me at work and fill it numerous times throughout the day. When I'm home is when I struggle with keeping up on my water intake.
    I have a big styrofoam 20oz cup I drink over 2 hrs, often two cups before my first break. Then I drink a ton at the gym. But pre and post gym I think I slack (not that there's a lot of time pre gym). Being done with cyano has helped too, I deadlift today and squat volume after and no back pumps at all. So back pump free!
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    Day 31


    Got some rest today, hit the gym and saw a good buddy. We were gym-rattin' pretty hard, which is the single greatest/worst thing about powerlifting. Not much metabolic stress, but you do lift like a boss and have good friendships. I'm happy with today. Def getting stronger, and since the 19dhea won't be felt for a bit and the 5alpha tabs are out this was all 1-alpha, 4AD, and good programming.

    1" Deficit Deadlift (standing on 45lb plates) 135x13, 225x9, 315x3, 345x3, 375x3, 405x3, 435x3, 455x3 (Both PR's, had more in the tank)
    Bb Backsquat 135x10, 225x10 x5sets (used to struggle on these and now it's light, will up weight)

    I ran my belt from 405 and up, where I usually do even from the floor. Next time I'll try it unbelted thru 405. I stopped because I'd done enough volume and I don't wanna go backwards since I was already up so much, but there's def more reps or weight coming next time.
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    So how are you liking 4ad so far. All I've heard about the RDe chrome series was that it was under dosed. Can't speak from personal experience as I haven't partaken...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Got some rest today, hit the gym and saw a good buddy. We were gym-rattin' pretty hard, which is the single greatest/worst thing about powerlifting. Not much metabolic stress, but you do lift like a boss and have good friendships. I'm happy with today. Def getting stronger, and since the 19dhea won't be felt for a bit and the 5alpha tabs are out this was all 1-alpha, 4AD, and good programming.

    1" Deficit Deadlift (standing on 45lb plates) 135x13, 225x9, 315x3, 345x3, 375x3, 405x3, 435x3, 455x3 (Both PR's, had more in the tank)
    Bb Backsquat 135x10, 225x10 x5sets (used to struggle on these and now it's light, will up weight)

    I ran my belt from 405 and up, where I usually do even from the floor. Next time I'll try it unbelted thru 405. I stopped because I'd done enough volume and I don't wanna go backwards since I was already up so much, but there's def more reps or weight coming next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    So how are you liking 4ad so far. All I've heard about the RDe chrome series was that it was under dosed. Can't speak from personal experience as I haven't partaken...
    It really is underdosed, and it really is great. Never used more than 4 tabs e/d, but haven't seen the need to go up. If Fina produced a 4dhea product I'd have been inclined to try that since I know what to expect with 4dhea, but sounds like you guys are trying to move away from the ph/ds game soon, correct?

    Since they're dissolving mints, you don't even need water. Just set em under the tongue or between cheek and gum and 30 min later or so they're gone. They don't work nearly as well with the advertised 30 sec then swallow, even the reps say let it dissolve if you can. I don't use it for gains so much as well-being. Couple tabs before the gym help deliver a better experience, IMO. Nice energy and libido bump and no sides, compliments 1dhea well. Like a WEAK-ass TNE shot with a longer life?
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    How bad an idea, on a scale of 1-10, would it be to drop a couple Ultradrol e/d throughout the rest of this cycle? Like 2 4mg pills divided. Never ran Msten. Prob won't do it, seems over-the-top, just curious to get opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    How bad an idea, on a scale of 1-10, would it be to drop a couple Ultradrol e/d throughout the rest of this cycle? Like 2 4mg pills divided. Never ran Msten. Prob won't do it, seems over-the-top, just curious to get opinions.
    prolly no big deal, for couple of reasons
    1) ultradrol is very mild, takes at least 24mg to really get any results, and some go up to 32mg
    2) you have exem in the mix
    however:
    3) as paranoid as you have been about things gyno etc i lqtm that you seem intent on adding more

    ultradrol.. was only methylated product i've ever run, that did not cause me issues

    that said - i ran IMLs msten as well, night and day diff from that and ultradrol, very harsh
    i have my own ideas why, but will keep that to myself
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