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    So the consensus I'm getting here it add the cyano back in, overnight the prami, exema, and letro from an RC, begin tapering the prami at .1mg ed up to a max of .5 if necessary and tolerated, 25mg exema ed until I feel 12.5 is sufficient, and just keep letro in case exema doesn't get it done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Gyno isn't just some sides. It is the lone side I truly fear. I don't necessarily have it yet but I don't want to have to run letro just to get 7 more days of cyano. Not like it's worth the extra 2lbs of water and 5lbs on a lift.
    gyno really isnt that serious. if it goes untreated it can be a problem but as long as you stay on top of it your good to go. prostate cancer is a way worse side.

    but i understand what your saying, growing mini tits is quite terrifying. if the cost out ways the benefits then dont do it.
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    yeah i doubt youll need the lectro, but its a good idea to always have some in the stash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    gyno really isnt that serious. if it goes untreated it can be a problem but as long as you stay on top of it your good to go. prostate cancer is a way worse side.

    but i understand what your saying, growing mini tits is quite terrifying. if the cost out ways the benefits then dont do it.
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    You gents feel I even need the prami if I just keep the cyano dropped and go 1-alpha+5alpha with exema on cycle and letro if sh*t goes down?

    Cuz that's a cheaper less intense option that allows me to continue to make gains and would be most desirable
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    ether way would work. personally i would want that extra 2lbs of water and 5lbs on lifts :*******:, but its up to you. i would buy the prami ether way cause thats another one i always keep in my stash. dont get liquid caber. caber isnt stable as a liquid. so the RC sites that sell liquid caber are just relabeling prami and jacking up the price
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    Ah geeze looks like I missed a lot. I agree that if you think it's the cyano then its probably not worth continuing at this point for less than a week. You still have plenty of other options left. Also I agree with dosing aero. It sound like aero could have this thing under control in only a few days. When I get sensitive on cycle I run a low dose of nolva or aero for like 4-5 days and it clears right up. Good luck man, let us know what happens
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    Got some RC letro, prami, and 2 bottles of exema coming for my rat. There wasn't an express option so could well be a week before I see the chems, so keeping cyano out but continuing the dheas for now.

    Gonna add in 4 revolution pct for 200mg of arimistane nightly til the exema comes unless someone can give me a reason not to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Got some RC letro, prami, and 2 bottles of exema coming for my rat. There wasn't an express option so could well be a week before I see the chems, so keeping cyano out but continuing the dheas for now.

    Gonna add in 4 revolution pct for 200mg of arimistane nightly til the exema comes unless someone can give me a reason not to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Got some RC letro, prami, and 2 bottles of exema coming for my rat. There wasn't an express option so could well be a week before I see the chems, so keeping cyano out but continuing the dheas for now.

    Gonna add in 4 revolution pct for 200mg of arimistane nightly til the exema comes unless someone can give me a reason not to?

    I havnt seen anyone run arimistane or that same compound at 200mgs a day but the only issues i could see may be joint issues and loss of libido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I havnt seen anyone run arimistane or that same compound at 200mgs a day but the only issues i could see may be joint issues and loss of libido.
    2-4 caps PCT Black is rec dosing (in pct anyway), equates to 200mg arimistane
    should be no issue, but sure some ppl could have joint drying @200
    i would probably run @100 myself, but no worries
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    2-4 caps PCT Black is rec dosing (in pct anyway), equates to 200mg arimistane
    should be no issue, but sure some ppl could have joint drying @200
    i would probably run @100 myself, but no worries
    Yea, either way i dont think he could go wrong.
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    I've never done more than 75mg in pct but the bottle is recommending 100-200mg as you said, so I figure somebody with Fina believes it's safe enough as long as sides are manageable. Just a temporary dose anyway to try and manage levels.

    Epi at 40mg only affected my elbows, and just during benchpressing, so I ain't scurred!
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    Day 24


    Just wanna say thanks to everyone for their input, especially Snags and Chris. All the comments are appreciated; it's nice to have more experienced people to bounce this around with

    Tonight I was kinda stressed with all the decision-making and didn't feel much like lifting, so I just got in and went to work. I realized I've been experiencing back pumps on every lower body day for the last 10 days or so, and they were bad enough after speed pulls I had to skip ab work and lower back/glute work. I run 3g taurine anyway pre & post workout for cns performance/health with the powerlifting so it's all very manageable and only during lower body days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Just wanna say thanks to everyone for their input, especially Snags and Chris. All the comments are appreciated; it's nice to have more experienced people to bounce this around with

    Tonight I was kinda stressed with all the decision-making and didn't feel much like lifting, so I just got in and went to work. I realized I've been experiencing back pumps on every lower body day for the last 10 days or so, and they were bad enough after speed pulls I had to skip ab work and lower back/glute work. I run 3g taurine anyway pre & post workout for cns performance/health with the powerlifting so it's all very manageable and only during lower body days.

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    Couldn't even manage 405 for a double 3 wks ago. Tonight was great, just moving weight. Vascularity is somehow even greater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    Doin work! Back pumps are a whore
    Agreed. I would bump taurine up to 5 Pre and Post. Should help mitigate cramping a little more. Also add some potassium and magnesium as well. Keep working hard brosef
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post

    Agreed. I would bump taurine up to 5 Pre and Post. Should help mitigate cramping a little more. Also add some potassium and magnesium as well. Keep working hard brosef
    Good info here.. Increase water intake
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    Yeah I rotated sweet potatoes out of my diet last week too and had finished my tub of compete so potassium/electro intake prob isn't ideal. Back at em today. I really have been slacking on the water intake, I bet I'm barely drinking more than off cycle. Prob about a gallon a day, and for me that's really not enough on.

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    Bwahahaha, too bad for her my androgen levels are a bit higher than average
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    ooo cool, laser hair removal eh?
    i need me some of that, hate body hair
    does that work for the inside of your ears too?

    (just wait till you get older d00d)
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    my nose hair and ear hair gets out of control. every where else stays ok but wtf nose hair. its ridiculousness
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    my nose hair and ear hair gets out of control. every where else stays ok but wtf nose hair. its ridiculousness
    i got this goofy dark a$$ black one smack dab in the middle of my nose, grows intermittently..
    no matter how many freakin times i pull it - and get the root too! - it still comes back
    wtf is right
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    ooo cool, laser hair removal eh?
    i need me some of that, hate body hair
    does that work for the inside of your ears too?

    (just wait till you get older d00d)
    Lol it's pricey as hell but you can negotiate. My work would have been like 1200 but since she's friends with my sis my treatment cost 500. Pretty much any hair that's dark is fair game. She'll do the hair on your business or backdoor even as long as it's not light (doesn't respond to the laser). She can vary the intensity too so places like that don't hurt (she said).


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    got to take pride in your gifts
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    ooo cool, laser hair removal eh?
    i need me some of that, hate body hair
    does that work for the inside of your ears too?

    (just wait till you get older d00d)
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    my nose hair and ear hair gets out of control. every where else stays ok but wtf nose hair. its ridiculousness
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    What did i just walk into lol.
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    Day 26


    Yesterday was an offday, was exhausted.

    Gyno fo sho. Both areolas are now puffy except when cold and seems to be a mass developing in right breast. Smaller one in left. Hard to tell, could be a bit paranoid, but I really don't think so. I have Clomid for pct. Got prami, letro, and exemestane coming tomorrow. Gonna start hitting exemestane 25mg ed or even every 12hrs (apparently AI's have a shorter half life in men so exem can benefit from every 12hr dosing) and prami at .1mg ed tapering up .1 each day. Will cap out at .5 prob or whenever sides get maxed out for me.

    Sounds like my best odds reversal-wise is to end the cycle, but it sounds like most guys use nolva with exem in pct and I've only got clomid on hand. I'd really like to keep rolling the full 60 days of 1-alpha here. Thoughts?

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    PRsssssssss

    gyno

    lol..well we covered it man - should be fine when you combat it, really nothing to fear at this point
    if you just feel too uncomfortable with it, then end cycle and jump on pct
    gyno is such a weird thing..so much unknown about it, but i really think you will be fine with exem if you can just hold on..you shouldn't need any more than 25mg ed btw

    as for pct - for pct purposes, clomid definitely the way to go
    if you are combatting gyno, then there can be other options but clomid is best for HPTA purposes
    and a clomid/exem combo in pct would suffice, for you, as well imo

    whatever you do, stop worrying - no need to raise cortisol unnecessarily
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    Have to agree with Snags, dont go overkill on the mind fuk. Clom + aero is more than enough for PCT. Nolva for gyno but you have aero and letro to combat the gyno so no need for nolva. If it were me, knowing that Im possibly overreacting to my predicament, I would continue the cycle and run the aero at 25 a day till it clears up or even all the way through to pct. The aero should kick that gyno shyt to the curb, maybe taper some letro in for 5 days or so for double measure. If it were me I wouldnt drop cycle. Do what you need to though as in the end its your titties my friend
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    Normally I run lectro before pct. if I know it's gyno. Just to make sure and kill it. The estane will prevent rebound after u come off. Plus it will also raise natural test by a good percentage. Lectro 2 weeks at 2.5 Ed( this I use if gyno is sever) like tren sever. Most others u don't need quite so much. Nice pr's, I hit one the other day it's been a long time since I got me a PR. Don't stress the man tits, ur on the right track to fixing them.
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    Youll want start the prami at .5mg and ramp it up .25mg every third or fourth night. Wouldnt go any higher than 2mg though
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    One day son you will "know" exactly what we old guys "know". Lol
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    The Peptides I Purchased arrived...

    Got that exem down the hatch with my second dose of 1-A, 4AD and 5aT. Gonna hit the prami after the workout at .5mg and go up as suggested unless you guys see any reason not to. I figure exeme at 25mg and prami at w/e dose is for that day every day through remainder of cycle. Not much irritation at all to speak of, just slightly sensitive areola and puffiness. Def not out of control yet.

    You guys normally dose these in the morning, before bed, pre or post workout? Figure it doesn't really matter aside from being consistent. I've read exeme likes fats for absorption but figured that was for tabs not liquid. Either way most of my meals contain healthy fat or at least a couple g fish oil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Nice pr's, I hit one the other day it's been a long time since I got me a PR. Don't stress the man tits, ur on the right track to fixing them.
    What was your PR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    You guys normally dose these in the morning, before bed, pre or post workout? Figure it doesn't really matter aside from being consistent.
    boldened, same time every day
    other than that, really doesn't matter, but i go first thing upon rising, empty stomach
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    I like to dose aero and nolva before workouts cuz I feel like they give me an edge in the gym. Literally feel a test spike. Not sure about the prami...
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    I take prami first thing in tw morning, that stuff really makes me feel ill, and If I take it at 6am then I don't notice any sides. .5 is the highest you should need. I'm blasting high test and deca and only using .3, I would start at a lower dose but if it doesn't bother u go for it.

    Pr was skull rushers for 140lbs I think it's in my log.
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