trt and prohormone dosing

[tkasch30]

i am on trt 200 every 2 weeks and want to add a ph. it will b my first cycle. i have hdrol and epistane and not sure which to use but mostly im unsure if dosing for me would be any different since im on trt? since a normal persons natural test levels will drop with ph use and my test level will be the same all the time can my ph doses be lower? thank you

[tkasch30]

so what im asking, if a normal person gets results from 75mg hdrol could my dose be lower like 50 and get same results?

[OnionKnight]

pret sure you still do the same dose because the point is for it to bind to the AR, not equalize with test. and when youre done, you just stop halo and continue with trt

[tkasch30]

well the point is to raise test levels but.... im confused by that answer but thanks

[OnionKnight]

well the point is to raise test levels but.... im confused by that answer but thanks

thats because you dont fully understand steroids. the only one that raises test is pinning actual test. the other steroids are just anabolic exo hormones that bind to the androgen receptor and imitate the anabolic effects of tstosterone. they dont actually raise it like test boosters or pinning test

[tkasch30]

oooh ok thanks for info. would you suggest epi or hdrol for first cycle? which is less liver toxic?

[OnionKnight]

oooh ok thanks for info. would you suggest epi or hdrol for first cycle? which is less liver toxic?

epi for cut, hdrol for recomp or bulk. theyre very similar though so just flip a coin if you cant decide lol

[tkasch30]

haha ok and suggested dosing for both?

[kisaj]

Why not try running a better test inject protocol and see what that gets you by itself. It's well known that pinning every 2 weeks is ancient history and it is a very good way to go on a roller coaster with peaks and valleys, so you are never going to get the full benefit. You'd be better running 100 a week, and for nice gains, maybe see if you can bump up to 200 wk.