First PH cycle. ULTRADROL log
- 01-28-2013, 03:11 PM
First PH cycle. ULTRADROL log
Hello, tomorrow(1/29/13) I am starting my first PH cycle. I am 21 years old, 6'3, 225 pounds, BF% sits around 16-19%( I always get different readings depending on the time of day.) This is my third year that I've been training seriously. I started off very over-weight and then became a twig, but since then I've learned more then I ever thought I could, and continue to everyday. I will be logging my cycle here for you guys and myself. I'll post info every week. Here is what I plan on running.
Ultradrol 8/12/12/12(or 16, depends on sides)
CEL Cycle Assist
Nolva 20/20/10/10 (liquid form)
Vital Labs Post Cycle 3x
I also will continue to take these supplements throughout it all:
Pre-workout (switching to a nitric oxide based PWO just to get away from caffeine for a while)
My goal is to eat 3500-4000 calories a day. My training split will start off as follows:
Let me know what you guys think; and if you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them! I'm looking forward to the next month!
- 01-29-2013, 05:32 PM
Started the cycle today! Took 4mg in the morning with breakfast, Cycle Assist 4 hours after. Then took another 4mg after workout, and will take CE around 8:30. I felt really great in the gym. However I feel like I'm having headaches but that might just be normal, I'm sure the headaches will go away in a couple days if it is from the UD. Other than that everything feels normal, I know it's the first day, but whatever.
- 01-31-2013, 08:00 AM
01-31-2013, 12:25 PM
Doubt could happen after one dose, but if headaches persist, take constant blood pressure readings whenever possible. Keep that in check especially if having headaches and or nose bleeds
01-31-2013, 04:29 PM
The headaches went Away today! The first day I started I had a crazy math test with all these graphs, probably got the headaches from that!
01-31-2013, 04:31 PM
01-31-2013, 04:33 PM
Third day now and I'm feeling great! No headaches, not tired, everything is good. Weight seems to have bumped up a few pounds already. Recovery is about normal. The pumps feel great though, I could stay in the gym for hours. I want to bump up to 12mg already but I think I'll stick to the original plan.
01-31-2013, 04:36 PM
I will try to take some pictures today or tomorrow so that I sort of have actual before pictures. I will def post progress pictures though.
01-31-2013, 04:48 PM
02-01-2013, 05:42 AM
I would say try and eat more than 4k calories. I'm on cycle now. 6'4 214 eating 5-7k calories depending on how busy I am. I'm up to 225 and I still have same ab outlines as when I started. Id throw in erase at wk2 of pct and run it 2wks after Pct. Other than that cycle looks good, have fun!
02-01-2013, 05:59 AM
02-01-2013, 12:13 PM
I'm glad your cycle went well for you! Have you started PCT yet?
02-02-2013, 12:39 PM
So today is the beginning of the 5th day. Still no sides at all. I had a pretty moderate chest and triceps day yesterday(probably went around 75%-90%) on most of the lifts. Usually I am a little sore after those days but not too bad. But today I woke up and I don't feel a thing, it's like I never did it, so recovery is increasing steadily.
02-03-2013, 03:38 PM
For some reason I can't post pictures cause my post count isn't at 150
But today is the 6th day and everything is great. Gained around 5 pounds already. Strength seems to have shot up a little bit, haven't really tested that too much yet cause I don't always train to failure. But the weights I am at seem to being getting easier, will be going to failure next couple weeks to see what happens!
02-03-2013, 11:13 PM
02-05-2013, 01:20 PM
02-05-2013, 11:25 PM
Today is the one week mark! gained around 7-8 pounds so far, feel like I've lost some fat too! I bumped up to 12mg's today and there is no sides except back pumps. The back pumps aren't too bad but hopefully they get better or go away. If not I'll have to get something to help with it. Strength and recovery continue to go up as well!
02-08-2013, 11:26 PM
Been a few days since the last post. Things have been going alright. Still a steady gain in weight gain, around 11 pounds now. However the back pumps continue and are pretty on and off. Sometimes they're harsh and other times not so much. Strength gains are coming along slowly, but I'm seeing them. And as far as visible size it's hard to tell.
Sadly I'm getting a gyno flare up. I already had it sort of from puberty, and with a my BMI where it is, well that certainly doesn't help. So I will be taking nolva at 20mg for the next 4-5 days. I hope that it goes down back to normal. If it doesn't then I will continue to take it throughout cycle. If symptoms don't subside as much as I hope they will, I will be lowering my UD dose back to 8mg. Next cycle I run will probably be with nolva or some sort of AI all the way through. But I'm not doing another one until I'm around 12% BF
02-08-2013, 11:38 PM
Yeah, make sure you have enough nolvadex. Get some erase powder or an AI ASAP though. Nolvadex will block the estrogen from binding to the receptor but an AI will stop the estrogen from getting out of balance in the first place. With nolvadex you should be okay, but it is very important to have an AI on hand next time. I would even goto *** or another store to see what they have as an over the counter AI and run that with the nolvadex. But again, lower the dose and make sure your Gyno is under control. Cuz it's like 6 g's for surgery. And get some DIM in 100 mg caps 1x a day.
02-08-2013, 11:48 PM
Yeah I know
I have plenty of nolva and when my friend helped me make my cycle he said everything will be fine with nolva, cause hes experienced and that's what he used with his gyno flare up. He also has pre existing gyno just like me. Granted hes like 7% BF now and weighs 230 pounds haha. But next time I will def just run a light AI with my cycle to be safe.
02-08-2013, 11:50 PM
Get some DIM @ 100 mg a cap. Take it once a day, I have it and its a good natural AI that's dirt cheap for a 30 day supply.
02-08-2013, 11:53 PM
02-08-2013, 11:58 PM
02-09-2013, 12:05 AM
I have a formula from a thread I found and saved:
1. .5 mg Ed
2. 1 mg Ed
3. 1.5 mg Ed
4. 2 mg Ed
5. 2.5 mg Ed
Stay at 2.5 mg for 4-7 days and taper down
1. 2 mg Ed
2. 1.5 mg Ed
3. 1 mg Ed
4. .5 mg Ed
5. .25 mg Ed
So that's 5 days dosing up, then 4-7 days maintenance and 5 days dosing down. It says it should reverse Gyno. But you should use nolvadex after the letro as you would when you PCT from a cycle to rebound your normal level balance. But it says ur not going to be getting it up for a little.
02-09-2013, 12:17 AM
I would run the nolvadex along with the cycle if ur having flare ups right now until your done with your pct. Don't stop the nolvadex because its stopping the estrogen from binding to your receptors. I would take the dim at 200 mg for the first week and drop it to 100 mg for the rest of the cycle and PCT, even keep it at that dose off PCT for a while till your body feels stable again. I would order it now, you'll be okay till it gets there as long as its within a week or so.
02-09-2013, 12:27 AM
I think that 10 mg a day of nolvadex while on cycle would be good until pct. But if you need 20 mg, then take that. Only you know how your body is reacting, but don't stop taking it. And if your sensitive to DIM and get an unwanted reaction like hives or something stop taking it for a week, then take 50 mg every other day.
02-09-2013, 11:29 AM
Took 20mg of nolva last night and I already woke up feeling better. Isn't irritated as bad and it feels sort of like normal. Will be taking nolva the next couple days at 20mg and then just keep it 10 after that until PCT.
02-10-2013, 01:22 PM
That's sounds good, also make sure your taking a daily vitamin. I take NOW foods daily vits 100 count and it's one of the better complete vitamins in my opinion.
02-10-2013, 01:38 PM
02-10-2013, 03:10 PM
Okay, I didn't remember what I wrote at first but the admin must have doctored the original post. Anyways that's all I wanted to say anyways, I'll keep sources out of it from now on.
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