If Dermacrine is not available what DHEA product should I use?

[Mass Monkey]

Hello everyone:

Back on here after a long lay off so been out of the loop so go easy on me . . . Looking do some some research on something to replace dermacrine if the new formula is not released by the time I start my next cycle in March. On another thread someone said as a last resort to use DHEA and if other agree with this then what product line is everyone using?

Again all I'm looking for is something that does what dermacrine does so well and I I was getting a few conflicting reports on some products so now that I'm back and ready to start buying my last few goodies just doing a follow up. So any help or suggestions for my next TBol/StanoDrol cycle would be appreciated.

And while I'm starting a fresh thread if anyone wants to comment on this issue feel free . . .

When dosing TBol can I take my StanoDrol at the same time?

And is everyone still happy and using Cel Cycle Assist & PCT Assist or is these a new product that is just as good or better? . . I know some don't use supports ON Cycle and I respect that theory but for myself I like taking extra protection . . if anyone wants more info on me or my full cycle before they respond drop me a line . . all the best and thanks to anyone who responds

[CopyCat]

I would say look into AMS's 4-ad or FRL's Alpha Bulk. Both are solid. Dermacrine was a DHEA product, so using another DHEA product isn't really a last resort.

I think Cel's cycle assist and PCT are still fairly popular I believe. I've almost always used AI's cycle support product, but now that AMS has their Super Cycle I of course use that now, and am running it currently for a SD cycle.

[Mass Monkey]

Yes I was actually looking into both of those. Read a few reports of dizziness on Alpha Bulk yeah I think if the good stuff is not available then it will be one of those two. Oh BTW the reason I said it being a last resort as it was stated on another thread that dermacrine converts to a higher level of DHEA but if nothing else use straight DHEA. But I guess in the end if it reduces some of the lethargy during the cycle then all is good. All in all looking forward to the next cycle. Thanks for your input and suggestion.

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[CopyCat]

Yes I was actually looking into both of those. Read a few reports of dizziness on Alpha Bulk yeah I think if the good stuff is not available then it will be one of those two. Oh BTW the reason I said it being a last resort as it was stated on another thread that dermacrine converts to a higher level of DHEA but if nothing else use straight DHEA. But I guess in the end if it reduces some of the lethargy during the cycle then all is good. All in all looking forward to the next cycle. Thanks for your input and suggestion.

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I think it's Alpha Mass and not Bulk that some have been reporting dizzeness off of lately. Though, from my understanding it is likely due to some high blood pressure when run at higher doses and the supplementation of support supps for B/P seems to take care of the issue.

Also, the increased bioavailablity of Dermacrine was due to it's transport carrier. Both Alpha Bulk and 4-ad use improved methods to increase bioavailability. So, any of the three products we have mentioned so far are markably better than plain oral DHEA capsules.

[MANotaur]

I would just go to *** and load up on their generic DHEA100 tabs. Thats what i use as part of my PCT and also on and off through out the year. Take a double dose and your g2g. Your right that oral DHEA supps dont have the greatest bioavailabity but if you double the reccomended dose you get more than enough to get the job the job done.

If you wanted....you could bulk buy some DHEA and 7-Keto powder and make your own. Just get all the powders you need and then grab some phlogel...and bam! home made dermacrine

[uvawahoowa]

Hello everyone:

Back on here after a long lay off so been out of the loop so go easy on me . . . Looking do some some research on something to replace dermacrine if the new formula is not released by the time I start my next cycle in March. On another thread someone said as a last resort to use DHEA and if other agree with this then what product line is everyone using?

Again all I'm looking for is something that does what dermacrine does so well and I I was getting a few conflicting reports on some products so now that I'm back and ready to start buying my last few goodies just doing a follow up. So any help or suggestions for my next TBol/StanoDrol cycle would be appreciated.

And while I'm starting a fresh thread if anyone wants to comment on this issue feel free . . .

When dosing TBol can I take my StanoDrol at the same time?

And is everyone still happy and using Cel Cycle Assist & PCT Assist or is these a new product that is just as good or better? . . I know some don't use supports ON Cycle and I respect that theory but for myself I like taking extra protection . . if anyone wants more info on me or my full cycle before they respond drop me a line . . all the best and thanks to anyone who responds

I used dermacrine for half of my last cycle and alpha bulk for the other half alongside hdrol. I didn't notice a difference between the two

[FL3X MAGNUM]

What benefits did you want from a derma alternative? It does a few things. Mood enhancement was the biggest thing I noticed.

[jbryand101b]

Prototype nutrition, Patrick Arnold's company has a topical dhea spray.

Id use that before dermacrine

[Mass Monkey]

I think it's Alpha Mass and not Bulk that some have been reporting dizzeness off of lately. Though, from my understanding it is likely due to some high blood pressure when run at higher doses and the supplementation of support supps for B/P seems to take care of the issue.

Also, the increased bioavailablity of Dermacrine was due to it's transport carrier. Both Alpha Bulk and 4-ad use improved methods to increase bioavailability. So, any of the three products we have mentioned so far are markably better than plain oral DHEA capsules.

Thanks for correcting me on the Bulk not Mass . . will review further and make my decision from there . . .TY

[Mass Monkey]

What benefits did you want from a derma alternative? It does a few things. Mood enhancement was the biggest thing I noticed.

Well . . . that is a good question lol . . but seriously, I guess I wanted it to fight off some of the slight lethargy I got last cycle. Nothing major but also wanted to run a test base since I can't do injectables (oh gosh here we go lol!!!!) and I just wanted to try it as I read so much good stuff about it.

[Mass Monkey]

Prototype nutrition, Patrick Arnold's company has a topical dhea spray.

Id use that before dermacrine

Cool thanks I'll look into that as it will cut down a bit on the pill popping for the day lol

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Well . . . that is a good question lol . . but seriously, I guess I wanted it to fight off some of the slight lethargy I got last cycle. Nothing major but also wanted to run a test base since I can't do injectables (oh gosh here we go lol!!!!) and I just wanted to try it as I read so much good stuff about it.

If you're already taking stanodrol you should be all set for lethargy/test base.

[jbryand101b]

Stano drol isn't a test base

[Young Gotti]

Rs-Transaderm and BULK UP should both work to fight lethargy and work as a "test base"

i've used rs-transderm and it works like a charm

[CopyCat]

Stano drol isn't a test base

No, but often helps with lethargy though.

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[FL3X MAGNUM]

Stano drol isn't a test base

In a PH sense the whole idea of a "test base" is to negate lethargy and keep some gains. Stano does that. Problem solved.
Or better yet, injectable testosterone is my favorite test base. Why not just pin....

[steppinRazor]

Rs-Transaderm and BULK UP should both work to fight lethargy and work as a "test base"

i've used rs-transderm and it works like a charm

Yeah transaderm is great but its not worth its weight in gold like ruthless/needto likes to charge. Anyways there's plenty of derma out there and its going to be back soon enough..

[Young Gotti]

Yeah transaderm is great but its not worth its weight in gold like ruthless/needto likes to charge. Anyways there's plenty of derma out there and its going to be back soon enough..

yeah right now the price is steep...if it came down in price a bit....i've tried both and derma doesn't stand a chance

[steppinRazor]

yeah right now the price is steep...if it came down in price a bit....i've tried both and derma doesn't stand a chance

You've tried the new formula? I've used both on a few different occasions. I will admit i like that there's less to spread with transaderm but dermas new carrier gives rs a run for their money. The price drop would have to be significant.. The **** used to be $60..how they justify $150 a bottle is beyond words i can express, at least in a polite manner. Derma takes a fat shît on transaderm..

[Mass Monkey]

Again TY for the feed back and input.


I just read on another thread that they are bring back the original shortly so maybe the Gods have answered our prayers lol

Quick side question regarding Stano. Do most of u run it 6 or 8 weeks? It's was suggested to me that I run it 2 weeks past my TBol cycle. Any feelings on this or just run it 6 weeks then PCT

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