Countering Lethargy... Any suggestions???

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    Countering Lethargy... Any suggestions???


    So I've taken quite a few cycles already and have done a ton of research but I've yet to find a firm answer on countering lethargy.. Anyone have any suggestions? I mean Sh!t that's acctually worked! Not 'try this" or "try that.." I'm tired of spending money on hunches or possiblities.. I mean I'm all for suggestions and advice from experience so don't get me wrong.. But honestly the guys that come in and say "I've heard" or "a guy I know said that" doesn't count as a suggestion to me anymore.. An I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that thinks this way lol! But yeah.. Please help.. I HATE being so tired by week three on a cycle.. Diet is fairly clean, taking omegas, and pre-load.. Any hard facts on fighting cycle lethargy would most appreciated. Here's a look at my upcoming cycle..

    Pre-load:
    Liver stabil
    Cycle assist

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    Mathastadrol 20/30/30/30
    Cycle assist

    PCT:
    Torem through to next cycle
    Liver Stabil
    Cycle assist
    iForce Nutrition Testabolan V2
    PES Anabeta Elite

    Thanks in advance for your comments!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KALiKiD707
    So I've taken quite a few cycles already and have done a ton of research but I've yet to find a firm answer on countering lethargy.. Anyone have any suggestions? I mean Sh!t that's acctually worked! Not 'try this" or "try that.." I'm tired of spending money on hunches or possiblities.. I mean I'm all for suggestions and advice from experience so don't get me wrong.. But honestly the guys that come in and say "I've heard" or "a guy I know said that" doesn't count as a suggestion to me anymore.. An I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that thinks this way lol! But yeah.. Please help.. I HATE being so tired by week three on a cycle.. Diet is fairly clean, taking omegas, and pre-load.. Any hard facts on fighting cycle lethargy would most appreciated. Here's a look at my upcoming cycle..

    Pre-load:
    Liver stabil
    Cycle assist

    Cycle:
    Mathastadrol 20/30/30/30
    Cycle assist

    PCT:
    Torem through to next cycle
    Liver Stabil
    Cycle assist
    iForce Nutrition Testabolan V2
    PES Anabeta Elite

    Thanks in advance for your comments!

    Take stano and/or andro drive to fight SD lethargy. Doses for stano is 600 mg and dosage for drive is 3caps/day. After doing some research I have found this to be the most effective. Caffeine /other Stims should be avoided due to BP.
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    Awesome bro, thanks! So this will combat SOME of the lethargy sides, or most? I'm sure you know that when lethargy hits in weeks three and four it's pretty heavy.. It is for me anyway.. Sometimes it hits even earlier.. Just depends on the SD potency and dose.. Also, will taking either of these diminish gains? Is it better to take one or the other or both? Which one do you think, personally, would be the better of the two? Thanks in advance for your help man

    [Edit] Would Stano Elite by Elite Formulations be a suitable product to stack with?

    [Edit2] Androdrive seems to have great reviews as well.. So drawn right now, UGH! :-/

    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Take stano and/or andro drive to fight SD lethargy. Doses for stano is 600 mg and dosage for drive is 3caps/day. After doing some research I have found this to be the most effective. Caffeine /other Stims should be avoided due to BP.
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    LGI stano-200 is good for lethargy

    DHEA also helps with lethargy

    I'm about to start a SD+stano cycle

    Mostlikly something like this
    MDROL 20/20/20/20
    Stano 400/400/600/600/1000/1000
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    Quote Originally Posted by pracata
    LGI stano-200 is good for lethargy

    DHEA also helps with lethargy

    I'm about to start a SD+stano cycle

    Mostlikly something like this
    MDROL 20/20/20/20
    Stano 400/400/600/600/1000/1000
    stano and dhea help this is true. dhea is found in AndroDrive. if I were you I would run stano 800/800/800/1000/1000/1000 with your SD cycle. or just get Androhard and run it 3/3/3/3/6/6
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    LGI Stano 200 works well with the right amount of dosing 800 or 1000 to start.
    I have heard Dermacrine works also, but I have only tried Stano 200.

    Shredded Labs has Stano 300 @ an awesome price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny75
    LGI Stano 200 works well with the right amount of dosing 800 or 1000 to start.
    I have heard Dermacrine works also, but I have only tried Stano 200.

    Shredded Labs has Stano 300 @ an awesome price.
    Stano @800 or 1000 might cause dht related sides with SD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    Stano @800 or 1000 might cause dht related sides with SD...
    Just as it would with epi and hdrol ?

    also I don't think the sides will be bad unless you are prone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17

    Just as it would with epi and hdrol ?

    also I don't think the sides will be bad unless you are prone.
    Never know your prone till your hair starts falling out. In my opinion you should stay at 600 mg when stacking this first time. It will also help you avoid stano head aches
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    Ok... So the firm answer is Stano 300 @ 600/600/600/800/800/800??? Does that sound about right? And Stano over Androhard?
    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Never know your prone till your hair starts falling out. In my opinion you should stay at 600 mg when stacking this first time. It will also help you avoid stano head aches
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALiKiD707
    Ok... So the firm answer is Stano 300 @ 600/600/600/800/800/800??? Does that sound about right? And Stano over Androhard?
    if its stano 300 do 600/600/600/600/900/900
    at least but that might not be enough stano. androhard is superior to stano since it has a delivery system AND it contains alpha and beta isomers of epiandrosterone(which is the beta version)
    they have the same molecular formula but different structure
    these are just my thoughts/ opinions
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    Word.. Appreciate it bro!
    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    if its stano 300 do 600/600/600/600/900/900
    at least but that might not be enough stano. androhard is superior to stano since it has a delivery system AND it contains alpha and beta isomers of epiandrosterone(which is the beta version)
    they have the same molecular formula but different structure
    these are just my thoughts/ opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALiKiD707
    Ok... So the firm answer is Stano 300 @ 600/600/600/800/800/800??? Does that sound about right? And Stano over Androhard?
    600 through out.
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