HELP TEST, DECA, WINNY CYCLE!!!

sebaslizar

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Hi everyone, im new here, this is my first thread.
Stats: 23 years old, 190lbs, 9% BF, 1.80mts, training for almost 4 years.
Diet is clean, eating every 2-3 hours, 300gr protein, 450gr carbs, 110 gr fat (no cheating)
Cycle history: this will be my 3rd cycle, first one: test and dbol (12 weeks), 2nd: test winny anavar(12 weeks)
This 3rd cycle i wanna make sure ill gain quality muscle, not a dirty bulk, prefer lean bulk

1-12 test e 500mg x week
1-10 deca 400mg x week
6-12 winstrol 40mg ED (oral)
gonna take arimidex during cycle, thinking of 1mg eod
PCT:
14-16: 40mg nolvadex, 25mg proviron(1tab), GOT CLOMID BUT DONT KNOW HOW MUCH
16-17: 20mg nolvadex, 25mg proviron

WHAT DO U THINK GUYS?? ARE DOSAGE OK?? PCT OK?? is it ok to shoot test and deca twice a week so it will be 250mg and 200mg monday and thrusday??
THANKS
 

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I would discontinue the nolvadex at least a week prior to completing PCT because of estro rebound can be real bad, clomid 50-100 mg/ day is normal. personally I don't think its necessary to inject deca twice a week
 

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THANKS, SO TEST TWICE A WEEK (250 each day) and deca just once (400).
So your are saying taking nolvadex just for weeks 14-16 at 40mg??
 

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yep, nolva i would do 40mg week 14, 20mg week 15, and 10mg week 16. just my personal preference, ween off it to avoid estro rebound. some people don't get it though hopefully you're one of them, good luck!
 

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i get it, i know its better to lower doses each week to help the body with the substance than stop taking it all at once. THANKS FOR THAT
DO I NEED HCG ?? i was reading its very helpful during cycle, what do u think??
 
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Either of you guys know a quality place to get HCG?
 
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Running a clean bulk i do it much different.

First, save ur money on winny as this is best when cutting.

Second, this is what i do and have worked with ifbb pros for protocols:
Test cyp or enth 250 - 1/2cc twice a week
T400 or sust - 1/2cc twice a week with test shot
EQ 300 - 1/2 cc twice week with ur test shot
Start with first 4wks anadrol 50mg a day or dbol 30mg a day. Dbol knocks off my appetite, makese bogged down and too much water, the anadrol is amazing for strength amd energy
When you reach 6 weeks left, run tren enth, ace or british dragon tri tren. Tren enth, 1cc x 2 a week. Ace wud be 1cc e3d if its tren 100
Tri tren would be 1cc x 2 a week.

Pct:
20mg a day for 2 wks nolva
40mg a day for week 3
20mg a day week 4
Hcg start after first 2 week nolva
I run 15,000iu total
5000iu vials
First two shots 2500iu for days 1&2
Then 1000iu a day until the rest is done.

Finished. I use hcg instead of clomid. Clomid is way to harsh on ur levels and causes serious emotional ups n downs for most ppl. Hcg is easier amd less sides

Clean bulk. The tren added increases food efficiency, will harden and help drop bit of water and increase fat loss.

If your sensitive to tren run some dostinex (cabergoline) in pct and ur fine.
 

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for sure, hcg is a staple in most ppl's cycle and part of an aggressive pct
 

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