First Ostarine Cycle help

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  1. I was aiming more for like higher dosages at first, like a loading phase


  2. Quote Originally Posted by bulkster21 View Post
    I was aiming more for like higher dosages at first, like a loading phase
    There have been multiple people that have tried it at higher dosages and reported no extra gains. Not really worth going above 20mg. I've used it at 12.5-15mg with fairly good results. Also, no reason to use a loading phase.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    There have been multiple people that have tried it at higher dosages and reported no extra gains. Not really worth going above 20mg. I've used it at 12.5-15mg with fairly good results. Also, no reason to use a loading phase.
    This. A loading phase isn't going to do you any good except for unprime your Androgen receptors faster.

  4. I ran osta at 20mg per day for only 4 weeks (with forma stanzol 8 pumps per day)......along with anabeta/slinsane with workouts or high carb meals only (did 2-3 days 30-60 grams carbs followed by a 250-300 carb day) and 300mg Na-Rala per day as well...."PCT" was a non-PCT protocol of continuing the 8 pumps of forma along with one erase each morning for 10 days while on vacation and eating whatever I wanted (making sure I got my 200 plus grams of protein per day of course), and took 2 slinsane per day and 300mg or so of Na-Rala as well to help with the sloppy eating, and I feel I've made better improvements than with most other PH/DS I've used. I swear to God using the slinsane, Na-Rala, and the anti-estrogens I didn't put on one pound of fat and actually feel as if I lost BF on vacation....thats eating pretty bad even though like I said I did put an emphasis on proteins like I always do. Lots of beef (steak and cheese, roast beef sandwiches) monster milk and whey isolate shakes once each per day....but I pretty much ate whatever the F I wanted other than that stuff like pizza and lasagna and hot dogs and sweets etc....I want to run osta again for 6 weeks in the future, but I swear it almost doubled my hair shedding, which makes me leary of it.....but for the OP, supps like slinsane/recompadrol, Na-Rala, anabeta and an anti-estrogen stack REALLY WELL with osta, at least for me....

  5. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    I ran osta at 20mg per day for only 4 weeks (with forma stanzol 8 pumps per day)......along with anabeta/slinsane with workouts or high carb meals only (did 2-3 days 30-60 grams carbs followed by a 250-300 carb day) and 300mg Na-Rala per day as well...."PCT" was a non-PCT protocol of continuing the 8 pumps of forma along with one erase each morning for 10 days while on vacation and eating whatever I wanted (making sure I got my 200 plus grams of protein per day of course), and took 2 slinsane per day and 300mg or so of Na-Rala as well to help with the sloppy eating, and I feel I've made better improvements than with most other PH/DS I've used. I swear to God using the slinsane, Na-Rala, and the anti-estrogens I didn't put on one pound of fat and actually feel as if I lost BF on vacation....thats eating pretty bad even though like I said I did put an emphasis on proteins like I always do. Lots of beef (steak and cheese, roast beef sandwiches) monster milk and whey isolate shakes once each per day....but I pretty much ate whatever the F I wanted other than that stuff like pizza and lasagna and hot dogs and sweets etc....I want to run osta again for 6 weeks in the future, but I swear it almost doubled my hair shedding, which makes me leary of it.....but for the OP, supps like slinsane/recompadrol, Na-Rala, anabeta and an anti-estrogen stack REALLY WELL with osta, at least for me....
    Sounds like some pretty good sh*t bro.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Sounds like some pretty good sh*t bro.
    I was kinda nervous on an upcoming ABv3 and Beastdrol (pulsed of course not for 2 months straight ) 8 week lean bulk since I tend to put on fat easy when I increase calories nowadays.....but I intend to add in the Na-Rala, recompadrol or slinsane, anabeta, and 6-bromo along with intimidate to make good use of the extra calories/carbs....I think 2500-3K will work well for me since my maintenance is around 1800-2K it seems....

  7. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I was kinda nervous on an upcoming ABv3 and Beastdrol (pulsed of course not for 2 months straight ) 8 week lean bulk since I tend to put on fat easy when I increase calories nowadays.....but I intend to add in the Na-Rala, recompadrol or slinsane, anabeta, and 6-bromo along with intimidate to make good use of the extra calories/carbs....I think 2500-3K will work well for me since my maintenance is around 1800-2K it seems....
    That sounds good and the addition of GDAs and AIs really helps keep the fat off.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    That sounds good and the addition of GDAs and AIs really helps keep the fat off.
    I'm a believer now....always knew about the AI's of course.....the GDA's I was never sure about, but stacking a few of them seems to work best. Like I said the recompadrol/slinsane plus Na-Rala seems to be the best combo I've found. I noticed on supp forum the new slinsane actually has 300mg Na-Rala included ...version 2.0 ....

  9. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I'm a believer now....always knew about the AI's of course.....the GDA's I was never sure about, but stacking a few of them seems to work best. Like I said the recompadrol/slinsane plus Na-Rala seems to be the best combo I've found. I noticed on supp forum the new slinsane actually has 300mg Na-Rala included ...version 2.0 ....
    Wow nice I didn't know that.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Wow nice I didn't know that.
    yeah, one of the reps posted a pic of the new label a few weeks back....only problem for me is that I prefer to take them separate....I take Na-Rala with or w/o carbs that day, but the slinsane or recompadrol I usually always take with a decent amount of carbs.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    yeah, one of the reps posted a pic of the new label a few weeks back....only problem for me is that I prefer to take them separate....I take Na-Rala with or w/o carbs that day, but the slinsane or recompadrol I usually always take with a decent amount of carbs.
    Yeah I gotcha. I might have to try them on my bulk cycle in october, see if I can put on virtually no fat.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Yeah I gotcha. I might have to try them on my bulk cycle in october, see if I can put on virtually no fat.
    that is the goal.....I figure that if eating in excess for two weeks, along with shytty "workouts" consisting of only pushups tri dips and maybe some 25-30 rep dumbell sets gets me no fat gain and maybe even a decrease while maintaining muscle....these supps work and should work better if your eating bigger but cleaner and taking some real anabolics at the same time....

  13. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    that is the goal.....I figure that if eating in excess for two weeks, along with shytty "workouts" consisting of only pushups tri dips and maybe some 25-30 rep dumbell sets gets me no fat gain and maybe even a decrease while maintaining muscle....these supps work and should work better if your eating bigger but cleaner and taking some real anabolics at the same time....
    Yeah buddy, like test, tren and anadrol hahaha.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Yeah buddy, like test, tren and anadrol hahaha.
    hahaha, yeah I know you are going hardcore next bulker....I'm gonna stay with PH/DS this time again and fore-go the deca plus whatever I pair it with....I keep avoiding the needles lately, but I'll get back with the program eventually I suppose ....

  15. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    hahaha, yeah I know you are going hardcore next bulker....I'm gonna stay with PH/DS this time again and fore-go the deca plus whatever I pair it with....I keep avoiding the needles lately, but I'll get back with the program eventually I suppose ....
    Yeah no doubt bro, that's the way to go.

  16. [QUOTE=WARBIRDWS6;3476447but I swear it almost doubled my hair shedding, which makes me leary of it.....but for the OP, supps like slinsane/recompadrol, Na-Rala, anabeta and an anti-estrogen stack REALLY WELL with osta, at least for me....[/QUOTE]

    I thought it was my imagination that my hair was looking thinner after using this. I've always had a full head of hair so I thought it was a bit odd.

  17. I need to compare starting this week...10-13 days removed from osta .....but i see less shedding already than i had on cycle....i get it in the brush after shampooing when the hair is still wet....but i get minimal in the drain now....on osta i got a clump in the brush (normal for girls or guys with longer hair) and a similar clump on the drain. I was in a hotel shower though so it was hard to compare. Im betting it was less mind tricks and more scientific fact

  18. I thot sarms didn't affect the hairline, but seeing more reports of it. I ran osta/s4 once with no noticeable shedding. Now, kantadrol and trenazone I defiantly had shedding.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    I thot sarms didn't affect the hairline, but seeing more reports of it. I ran osta/s4 once with no noticeable shedding. Now, kantadrol and trenazone I defiantly had shedding.
    I don't know man......I seem to be getting the same amount of hair every 48 hours or so now, when shampooing/conditioning/brushing in the shower. and I've been off the osta for 2 weeks now, maybe its just the fact I have long hair....but I pretty much know the amount of hair that comes out in the brush/drain by now, and it just seems it was elevated on osta and even a bit still now. And I am totally not prone to MPB other than a naturally high forehead (from when i was a kid even). I did do epi and a lot of DHT type PH/DS over the past year....so that could have added to the thinning while I was not paying attention....but it seemed in my PCT, and then in the osta month following, I got extree shedding. I'm heading into 6 weeks of 7/11 spray with some forma....I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens since none of that should cause more shedding and maybe I will normalize, or maybe it will be the same amount of hair and that is just normal for me and my longer hair....

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bulkster21 View Post
    Got ya, when I get it I'll fill everyone in on results. Just being overly paranoid about the testing I think, I'll take your word though
    Anabolics are definately not something they will test for. If you are already in the force I wouldn't worry about them asking the same type of questions they asked you in order to get in about illegal drug use.

    The only workplace they test for anabolics at are professional sports.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Johnnyboy004 View Post
    Anabolics are definately not something they will test for. If you are already in the force I wouldn't worry about them asking the same type of questions they asked you in order to get in about illegal drug use.

    The only workplace they test for anabolics at are professional sports.
    I am in fact a part of the force..I'm not too worried as of now. Have a couple sources telling me that they don't even test for it. Which I'm glad about because this stuff is awesome. Only day 3 and I have noticeable size increase in biceps and shoulder area. About a pound heavier definitely a good fullness of the muscle soon, once I get all my previous measurements I'll post a new thread with results..or would you guys prefer I do it here?

  22. I would, lol!
    How's your energy levels after taking it? I heard somebody saying they feelt more energy after taking it?

  23. Yeah a bit of an energy increase as well

  24. I feel it leans me out very well, when I wake up every morning I'm dry as hell

  25. Quote Originally Posted by bulkster21

    I am in fact a part of the force..I'm not too worried as of now. Have a couple sources telling me that they don't even test for it. Which I'm glad about because this stuff is awesome. Only day 3 and I have noticeable size increase in biceps and shoulder area. About a pound heavier definitely a good fullness of the muscle soon, once I get all my previous measurements I'll post a new thread with results..or would you guys prefer I do it here?
    I don't approve of any person holding a gun to be on steroids/anabolics. We don't want any aggression now do we?
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    I don't approve of any person holding a gun to be on steroids/anabolics. We don't want any aggression now do we?
    Hell man, I'd PREFER my cops, correction officers, firefighters and soldiers be on them!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76

    Hell man, I'd PREFER my cops, correction officers, firefighters and soldiers be on them!
    I know an army recruitment officer who gives them to new recruits. Your for giving 18 year old males steroids? Cause its happening. Makes me think many firefights could have been avoided.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    I know an army recruitment officer who gives them to new recruits. Your for giving 18 year old males steroids? Cause its happening. Makes me think many firefights could have been avoided.
    I never said to hand them out to 18 year olds. But why is it okay for us to take them but not the people who protect our country, states and cities?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76

    I never said to hand them out to 18 year olds. But why is it okay for us to take them but not the people who protect our country, states and cities?
    I just have a problem with aggression when your holding a gun. UN diagnosed mental health issues aswel. That's a bad combo. Coupled with authority
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    I just have a problem with aggression when your holding a gun. UN diagnosed mental health issues aswel. That's a bad combo. Coupled with authority
    I see your point, but I think that just perpetuates the myths of how bad AAS are. Someone experiencing additional aggression is so rare. Plus anyone going into law enforcement, military, etc have a very extensive screening process for mental health issues. But how many nut jobs are waking around with a concealed carry permit right now as we speak? That's one of the reasons that I see no problem with officers being on AAS. Because if anyone could use an edge on "the playing field"... it's them.
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