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    Montys Recomp/Cut with Havoxo (Havoc 11oxo)


    Will be starting this cycle tomorrow.

    Current stats : 6'1 210lb 26years old 13.5 % bodyfat

    Been lifting hard for four years but casualy for years before then. Experience with PH's SD and DMZ. Have ran about 5 cycles with minimal sides and good results on all but the DMZ.

    Looking to recomp and cut a little during the cycle. This will also be my first log so it probably won't be updated every day. But regularly none the less.

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    Primaforce Glyco Carn : 4.5g Pre-Workout
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    Optimum Fish Oil
    Muscle Pharm Armor-V
    Beast Sports Nutrition Creature Creatine Pre and Post Workout
    Scivation Extend (Old Formula)
    Syntrax Matrix 5.0
    BCS Labs Methyl Surge
    Nimbus Poseidon Nighttime

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    Toremifine : Days 1-3 120mg Days 4-7 90mg Days 8-21 60mg Days 22-30 30mg
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    Along with all supps mentioned above.

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    The Beginning
    Day 1

    Started Havoc and 11X today.

    Havoc 20mg am 10mg pre-workout
    11X 350mg am 350mg pre-Workout

    Felt pretty good today. When I got home around lunch time I got super tired so I took a short nap before the gym.

    Was a little groggy when I woke up so took some Craze pre-workout along with a serving of Beta-Alanine, Glyco Carn and Creature.

    Chest Day

    Incline Dumbell Presses
    45's x 18
    95's x 14
    105's x 12
    120's x 8

    Decline Barbell Bench/Decline Flys
    225 x 12 - 45 x 10
    265 x 10 - 45 x 10
    275 x 8 - 45 x 8
    275 x 7 - 45 x 8

    Flat Dumbell Bench
    70's x 12
    100's x 10
    100's x 10
    115's x 8

    Dips
    3 sets of 15

    Standing Fly's
    40lbs each hand on cable machine x 14
    50 x 12
    55 x 12
    40 x 15

    I threw in some rear delt stuff between sets for weak point training but nothing worth noting.
    Was a good workout. Great pump the whole workout especially after the flys. Not much differant then normal but its day one....what do you expect!

    Oh and no noticeable sides....some people talk about a warm sensation when taking 11oxo but I didnt notice anything today.
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    Day 2

    Havoc 20mg am / 10mg pre-workout
    11x 375mg am / 375mg pre-workout

    Well today was a turd. I had my niece today and they wouldnt let her stay in the daycare at my gym so I had to improvise and hit the gym in my apartment complex. Needless to say this gym is a steaming pile of crap. Dumbells only go up to 50 and they have a pulldown machine but thats about it so I decided to do some biceps/triceps/shoulders type stuff. But enough with the whine lets get to the cheese.

    Dumbell Curls/Tricep Extensions with Dumbell
    35 x 15 / 20 x 12
    45 x 14 / 25 x 12
    50 x 12 / 30 x 10
    50 x 12 / 30 x 10

    Tricep Pushdowns/Hammer Curls (Not really sure on the weight for this machine but ill guess here.)
    100 x 12 / 40 x 12
    140 x 10 / 40 x 12
    150 x 10 / 45 x 8
    160 x 8 / 45 x 8

    Tricep Extensions behind head/Incline Dumbell Curls
    30 x 12 / 40 x 10
    30 x 10 / 40 x 9
    30 x 9 / 40 x 8
    30 x 8 / 40 x 6

    Shoulder Press (machine)
    160 x 12
    180 x 12
    200 x 10
    200 x 8

    Shoulder Press (Reversed)

    140 x 12
    150 x 10
    150 x 10
    160 x 7


    Workout toatly sucked ass but something is better then nothing.

    Pumps were actually pretty good. Forearm pumps were intense and my triceps got a really good pump also wich is surprising since normally I never notice much of one in them. I also switched up my pre-workout supps a bit. I usually take about 1000mg of agmatine sulfate pre-workout and get insane vascularity but today I tried out some GPLC from Primaforce and the vascularity wasnt there but it felt like my muscles were fuller. No sides to note.
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    Day 3

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    Close Grip Pulldowns (Not sure about the weight on the plates on my gyms cable machine so ill use the number of plates for poundage.)

    10 x 15
    16 x 12
    17 x 10
    18 x 9 / 13 x 8 / 7 x 10 / 5 x 12

    Dumbell Rows (One side at a time)

    90 x 12
    100 x 12
    110 x 10
    130 x 8

    Barbell Rows

    185 x 12
    225 x 8
    225 x 8
    225 x 6

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns (Again weight by plates)/ Face Pulls (Again weight by plates)

    14 x 12 / 12 x 10
    15 x 10 / 12 x 8
    16 x 7 / 10 x 8
    16 x 6 / 10 x 7

    Was sweating like a pig in the gym today. Felt really good at the start but burned out towards the end. Good workout in all tho. I havnt started doing any cardio yet. Checked my weight today and I was at 208. Gonna see how things go for a week and then add in cardio once the epi and 11oxo are in full swing.
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    LoL yeah its those lame gym days that turn into half decent gym days that keep the progress going!
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    Shoulders and leg day......ughhh I hate leg days. After three knee surgerys I'm just terrified of it lol.
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    Day 4

    Shoulders/Legs

    So a little background here. Ive had three knee surgerys on my right knee. Torn acl, torn miniscus and had some cartilage tear off my femur inside of the knee join that had to be removed, scraped and drilled. So my leg workouts dont get too insane because I wont be able to walk the next day lol. Lucky for me my legs grow very well and I dont have to concentrate on them too much.


    Dumbell Shoulder Presses


    50's x 15
    60's x 15
    75's x 12
    80's x 10
    80's x 10

    Rear Delt Fly/Overhead Flys

    120 x 15 (each side)/ 25's x 12
    140 x 15 / 25's x 12
    170 x 10 / 30's x 10
    180 x 9 / 30's x 10

    Behind back Cable Laterals (Lbs per hand) / In front of body Cable Rear Laterals

    30 x 12 / 30 x 10
    35 x 10 / 35 x 8
    40 x 9 / 35 x 8
    40 x 8 / 40 x 6

    Nautilus Machine Lateral Raises / Standing Shoulder Press Alternating in front of head then behind head on each rep

    110 x 10 / Bar x 20
    110 x 8 / Bar x 17
    90 x 10 / Bar x 13
    90 x 8 / Bar x 12

    Seated Leg Press (One leg at a time) / Weighted One Leg Kickbacks / Calf Raises on Smith Machine with Platform

    130 x 15 / 100 x 12 / 325 x 12
    160 x 15 / 120 x 12 / 325 x 12
    180 x 12 / 130 x 10 / 325 x 10
    190 x 10 / 130 x 10 / 325 x 10

    Felt pretty damn good today and besides having to apply pressure to the sides of my right knee during leg presses it was an awesome workout. Shoulder pumps were awful as they normaly are on shoulder days but I made it through. No sides to note yet. Pumps were a little better then normal today but I wont attribute that to the Havoc/11x yet. :P
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    Day 5

    Saturdays are normally an off day for me cause I work 12 hours and my gym closes at 6, but today I got off early so I decided to make the most of it.

    Flat Bench Dumbell Presses
    50's x 15
    70's x 15
    110's x 10
    110's x 10
    120's x 8

    Decline Bench Press (Final Set Strip Set)
    225 x 12
    275 x 10
    295 x 9
    305 x 8 / 225 x 10 / 135 x 13

    Hammer Strength Incline Press (Weight per side)
    70 x 12
    90 x 10
    90 x 10
    100 x 8


    Incline Dumbell Flys / Tricep Pulldowns with rope
    45's x 12 / 90 x 12
    50's x 10 / 100 x 10
    50's x 10 / 100 x 10
    50's x 9 / 100 x 9

    Tricep Extentions on cable machine (weight per hand)/ Standing Cable Fly's (Weight per hand)
    30 x 12 / 40 x 12
    30 x 11 / 40 x 12
    30 x 10 / 50 x 10
    30 x 10 / 50 x 10

    Overhead Tricep Extension (Weight per hand)
    25 x 12
    30 x 10
    30 x 10
    35 x 9

    Pec Deck / Nautiuls Tricep Machine (Final Tricep set was a strip set)
    90 x 12 / 90 x 10
    100 x 10 / 80 x 10
    90 x 10 / 70 x 10
    80 x 12 / 70 x 10 / 50 x 10 / 30 x 15 / 50 x 7

    Cable Fly's (Again Weight per hand. Big negatives and 3 second hold at contraction)
    20 x 12
    25 x 11
    25 x 10

    Awesome F'n workout. Pumps were insane today even tho I was very short on carbs pre-workout so I think the Havoxo (tm) is starting to kick in some. No strength increase but stamina seems to be up also. Felt like I could have done more but I called it quits after an hour and a half since normaly im there for no more then an hour. Thirst has been out of control the last two days also. Drinking in excess of 2 gallons of water a day along with about an 18pack of beer (Just kidding....its a 12 pack). Weight was up to 211 today.......last time i weighed in I was 208 but it was relatively early in the day and i hadnt eaten much so this is probably closer to my normal weight atm. Carbs are way down and Cals are about 300 below maintenance. Im a bigtime food fan so its hard to keep em that low but im tryin! Any questions feel free to ask! This thread needs some more input! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Day 5

    Saturdays are normally an off day for me cause I work 12 hours and my gym closes at 6, but today I got off early so I decided to make the most of it.

    Flat Bench Dumbell Presses
    50's x 15
    70's x 15
    110's x 10
    110's x 10
    120's x 8

    Decline Bench Press (Final Set Strip Set)
    225 x 12
    275 x 10
    295 x 9
    305 x 8 / 225 x 10 / 135 x 13

    Hammer Strength Incline Press (Weight per side)
    70 x 12
    90 x 10
    90 x 10
    100 x 8


    Incline Dumbell Flys / Tricep Pulldowns with rope
    45's x 12 / 90 x 12
    50's x 10 / 100 x 10
    50's x 10 / 100 x 10
    50's x 9 / 100 x 9

    Tricep Extentions on cable machine (weight per hand)/ Standing Cable Fly's (Weight per hand)
    30 x 12 / 40 x 12
    30 x 11 / 40 x 12
    30 x 10 / 50 x 10
    30 x 10 / 50 x 10

    Overhead Tricep Extension (Weight per hand)
    25 x 12
    30 x 10
    30 x 10
    35 x 9

    Pec Deck / Nautiuls Tricep Machine (Final Tricep set was a strip set)
    90 x 12 / 90 x 10
    100 x 10 / 80 x 10
    90 x 10 / 70 x 10
    80 x 12 / 70 x 10 / 50 x 10 / 30 x 15 / 50 x 7

    Cable Fly's (Again Weight per hand. Big negatives and 3 second hold at contraction)
    20 x 12
    25 x 11
    25 x 10

    Awesome F'n workout. Pumps were insane today even tho I was very short on carbs pre-workout so I think the Havoxo (tm) is starting to kick in some. No strength increase but stamina seems to be up also. Felt like I could have done more but I called it quits after an hour and a half since normaly im there for no more then an hour. Thirst has been out of control the last two days also. Drinking in excess of 2 gallons of water a day along with about an 18pack of beer (Just kidding....its a 12 pack). Weight was up to 211 today.......last time i weighed in I was 208 but it was relatively early in the day and i hadnt eaten much so this is probably closer to my normal weight atm. Carbs are way down and Cals are about 300 below maintenance. Im a bigtime food fan so its hard to keep em that low but im tryin! Any questions feel free to ask! This thread needs some more input! lol
    120's for 8!! Wow. Nice chest/tri day bro. I'm one of those guys who start to notice effects of anabolics really quick so I wouldn't doubt if by day 5 you are feeling a little bit of something. Some people it takes two weeks but even when I ran hdrol alone I noticed a change by just a week into the run.
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    Yeah on SD I notice changes quick like 4-5 days. I've never ran either of these ph's before and I'm surprised I might be feeling it this quickly since they are both rather mild. I could have went heavier on the flat bench dumbells but I have little girly wrists/joints so with that much weight I have a hard time with my wrists breaking over not really the reps. But yeah it was a killur session today even with doing a lot of tricep oriented lifts the last three days in a row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
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    I havnt started doing any cardio yet. Checked my weight today and I was at 208. Gonna see how things go for a week and then add in cardio once the epi and 11oxo are in full swing.
    That was my plan too. i wanna make sure im in a good anabolic state when i bump my cardio up to the max. I figured I would wait round the end of week 2, and then start my two-a-days. Lifting in the a.m., then back for cardio later in the night. Its gonna be rough, but I know ill be shredded more then i ever-so itl be worth it.
    I actually enjoy my cardio-since i always ran track and cross country as a kid, so im looking forward to the extra cardio. The only reason i limit my cardio is bc it makes me drop weight too quick, and i dont wanna lose any muscle.

    Keep with the updates. Im following closely since im gonna be runninng the same two compounds you are(plus Stano).
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    Do you always use the Cissus? or just grabbed it for this cycle??
    i was thinking bout picking some up before I start.

    Are you still at 30mg epi and 750 of the 11x?
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    Yeahive used cissus for a while. I started using BCS Labs Elasti-Flex about a year ago and it was just about the only joint supp that really works well for me and I attributed this to the Cissus (along with the fact that they make badass supps). I started throwing in super cissus about 2 months ago and have noticed good sides besides just the joint aspects. It actually can give a little bit of a pump during the day since it helps in repairing tissue leading to a slight increase in blood flow. And when I do get a sore joint its gone in no time compared to before Cissus.

    Yeah my doses are still 30mg Havoc and 750mg 11x until Monday when I bump the Havoc to 40mg. I'm gonna keep the 11x at 750mg during the entire run mainly because its so damn expensive. But sofar I'm liking it even tho its still very early.
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    Day 6

    Much needed rest day today. Normaly Sundays are a lifting day but since I went on my normal rest day (Saturday and Monday) I decided to take today off. I work for a railroad so Im outside most of the day walking up and down tracks on rocks and I usually break a good sweat but today I was drenched. I dunno if its from this horrible Texas heat and humidity or maybe the gear but something was going on. I was also exhausted when I got home even after about 9 hours of sleep lastnight so I took a short 3 hour nap .

    Still no noticeable sides besides yday at the gym my body odor was out of control. It wasnt a sweaty smell or a BO smell it was differant. Hard to explain but almost like an infection type smell? Ive been to the Dr. before when I was on SD and had the same smell and he said it was nothing to worry about tho. So probably just hormones goin crazy. Im trying to keep my carbs low and my protein up but its getting tuff. Im a food lover as ive said before and my apetite is through the roof. Been supplementing with shakes alot more then normal to keep the protein up above 350g a day so Im gonna have to break down and go buy a cheap protein to keep this up. I hate to say it but ill probably buy some Muscletech 100 percent whey protein plus since its $32 bucks for 5lbs and I just need something to use throughout the day. It has isolate/concentrate/hydroslate so its not the worst ive seen. I will still use my normal protein before and after workouts and before bed but I gotta go cheap on the others . If anybody has a suggestion on a cheap protein thats decent Im all ears tho. Tomorrow im gonna bump the Havoc up to 40mg (20mg am 20mg pm) and the 11x will stay at 750mg (375am 375pm). .
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    ive used optimum whey and casein for the last few years. its good stuff, but recently went up in price alot. now 50 bucks for the 5 pounder.

    i also keep muscle milks in the fridge in case i need a quick fix and dont have time to make a shake.
    neither are cheap, but they are my protein staples.
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    oh man, so you've got B.O. and now your arse is gonna stink from the whey concentrate! Good thing you work outside lol
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    Roflmao. Dangerous combo for sure lol.
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    Another off day. I never get two off days in a row so im soaking up the extra recup time. Bumped up the Havoc to 40mg today so its time to get serious Tomorrow ill be throwing in some cario for the duration of the run and see how things go from there. All is well in the wonderful land of Havoxo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Another off day. I never get two off days in a row so im soaking up the extra recup time. Bumped up the Havoc to 40mg today so its time to get serious Tomorrow ill be throwing in some cario for the duration of the run and see how things go from there. All is well in the wonderful land of Havoxo
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    Might post some pics this week too btw. Im not rocking an 8pack like my boy LtL but ill still put a picture of my fat ass on here lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Might post some pics this week too btw. Im not rocking an 8pack like my boy LtL but ill still put a picture of my fat ass on here lol.
    LMAO!! Not quite bro but working on it. You'll get there man!
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    Long way off but after coming off a semi-dirty bulk we shall see how fast it falls off.
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    Sorry about the blurry photos. Hard to take them of yourself on a cell phone lol.

    Anyways today was day ummmmm 8. 40mg Havoc 750mg of 11x.

    Back Day

    Close Grip Lat Pulldowns / Rope Pulldowns (Weight by plates on cable machine.)
    10 x 15
    16 x 12 / 9 x 12
    17 x 11 / 10 x 10
    17 x 10 / 11 x 8

    Dumbell Rows / Shrugs
    110 x 12 / 225 x 15
    130 x 10 / 275 x 12
    130 x 10 / 275 x 12
    130 x 9 / 275 x 11

    Standing Reverse flys / Rear delt isolation on pec deck (per side)

    35's x 12 / 90 x 14
    35's x 11 / 100 x 12
    35's x 10 / 100 x 10

    Hammer strength Rows (Weight per side)

    90 x 12
    115 x 12
    160 x 10
    160 x 9 / 115 x 9 / 70 x 12 (Strip set each side)

    Threw in some abs between sets. Nothing radical just seated crunches and stuff.

    Pumps were good again but no strength change. Feel like ive leaned out some and my weight was at 208 today.
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    Day 9

    Havoc 40mg / 11x 750mg

    Chest/Calfs (Kinda)

    Incline DB Press
    65's x 15
    100's x 12
    110's x 9
    110's x 9

    Decline Bench Press / Decline Dumbell Fly's
    185 x 12 / 35's x 12
    225 x 10 / 35's x 12
    245 x 10 / 35's x 12
    245 x 8 / 35's x 10 / 155 x 10 / 135 x 8 (Strip set on press)

    Flat DB Bench Press
    65's x 10
    90's x 9
    100's x 8
    80's x 8

    Hammer Strength Close Grip Press / Calf Raises on smith machine
    190 x 10 / 275 x 20 (Toes In)
    210 x 8 / 275 x 20 (Toes In)
    220 x 6 / 275 x 20 (Toes Out)
    275 x 20 (Toes Out)
    275 x 20 (Toes Foreward)
    275 x 20 (Toes Foreward)

    Seated Cable Flys (Weight per hand)
    40 x 12
    45 x 11
    45 x 8

    Standing Cable Fly's (Weight per hand)
    40 x 10
    40 x 10
    30 x 10


    Was a good day. Strength is still holding steady even with the bigtime drop in calories. This is more of my normal routine on chest day. Heavy first set on incline to take my shoulders out of the lifts for the most part the rest of the session. Great pump and good focus through entire workout. Still no sides. Feeling good all around and weight was at 209 today but it seems to flow between 208 and 211.
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    Took today off... 12 hour shifts are killing me man. Good chest work out. I don't do decline though..seems like a waste. I've read so much about how it's not worth doing... You get a lot more from flat bench and incline
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    I used to not do decline that much but have added it in to my chest days lately. I normally dont try to go as heavy and just concentrate on the contraction ifn my lower chest with a wide grip. I also do a close grip decline and it actually hits the upper chest pretty hard for me. Everyone is differant tho.
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    And hells yeah on the rest day lol. 12 hours shifts really ARE killer. I pull quite a few of those and this week I had two days off in a row and it was epic lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1
    I used to not do decline that much but have added it in to my chest days lately. I normally dont try to go as heavy and just concentrate on the contraction ifn my lower chest with a wide grip. I also do a close grip decline and it actually hits the upper chest pretty hard for me. Everyone is differant tho.
    Yep... Just putting my two cents in... If it works for you then keep doing it for sure... I guess I have a big lower chest genetically also...
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