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    Mattrag cuts it up with S4


    Hey guys I have decided to start my S4 log. I realized that I actually have another 4 weeks before I can start a cycle so I will be using my S4 as a bridge. Along with bridge of course. So far here is what my plan is

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    bcaas, EAAs, Fish oil, multi vit, etc.... etc....

    Goals on this cycle are obviously to cut up. I will post my starting pics soon.

    I follow Intermitted Fasting so I eat from around 12-8 everyday. I eat high protiein, mod fat, low carb usually.
    I am coming off a vacation (where I actually lost some weight) and will be doing HST with some HIIT and cardio on the off days. MWF is workout, and I will try to fit in some form of exercise during the off days.
    Burn days I will be taking in around 2200 cals and build days I will try for 4000. On my vacation I ate around 4k on off days and 5k on build days so I think this will be accurate for losing more weight and cutting up. My current weight is 96kgs or 211.2lbs.
    Any suggestions, comments are welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
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    Finally it's time for me to cut. I think this will be a good kicker for my cycle in 4 weeks
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    U running osta rx (s4?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    U running osta rx (s4?)
    I think it's that... I was lookin at this. Intrigued
    Osta is another Sarm, sometimes called S1 (MK-2866).
    S4 is supposed to have a little better drying effect than osta. It is supposed to be better for cutting. I will most likely be adding in a fat burner to control my appetite as even with 4k cals I still manage to get hungry...
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    I'm in my good friend. S4 is the sh1t for cutting due to it being highly androgenic. Due to the short half life dose twice per day and keep the total dose per day between 50-80mgs (adjust up or down depending on vision sides) and enjoy the ride!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    I'm in my good friend. S4 is the sh1t for cutting due to it being highly androgenic. Due to the short half life dose twice per day and keep the total dose per day between 50-80mgs (adjust up or down depending on vision sides) and enjoy the ride!!
    Starting with 50mgs bro. Should I still do the 5/2 at this lower dose? And how soon did you "notice" anything?
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    woo kill it. This sarm looks interesting for sure seems great for leaning out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    woo kill it. This sarm looks interesting for sure seems great for leaning out!
    Yup! It's gonna be great. Hopefully it works well so I can use it between cycles to retain gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Yup! It's gonna be great. Hopefully it works well so I can use it between cycles to retain gains
    Also, you and I seem to have similar estrogenic sides as you reacted the same as me to DAA... Im interested if this sarm would raise estro I saw some bloods on ostarine that showed it raised estro through some mechanism... I guess cause it was not really androgenic. I feel s4 might be better since it has androgenic properties.
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    I have heard of people doing 7 days a week dosing and if visions sides start happening the. Going to 5/2 have you thought about that at all ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Also, you and I seem to have similar estrogenic sides as you reacted the same as me to DAA... Im interested if this sarm would raise estro I saw some bloods on ostarine that showed it raised estro through some mechanism... I guess cause it was not really androgenic. I feel s4 might be better since it has androgenic properties.
    Yea ill keep you updated. I am still on Erase Pro though.


    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    I have heard of people doing 7 days a week dosing and if visions sides start happening the. Going to 5/2 have you thought about that at all ?
    Yea currently I am doing 25mgs twice a day M-F. Weekends off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Starting with 50mgs bro. Should I still do the 5/2 at this lower dose? And how soon did you "notice" anything?
    You should notice effects pretty quick. I would say you will notice within the 2nd week. At least how it was for me.

    The 5 on, 2 off is really up to you too. At 50mg I don't know if its necessary or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    You should notice effects pretty quick. I would say you will notice within the 2nd week. At least how it was for me.

    The 5 on, 2 off is really up to you too. At 50mg I don't know if its necessary or not
    I just did my workout and I am EXTREMELY dry. Noticeably... even though I topped the dex two days ago I feel much drier now... Ill post my workout after I shower and cook
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    So had my first workout on S4 today. Took my preworkout which was beastmode mixed with Hemavol. It tasted okay... hemavol, for all those who haven't tried it, tastes AMAZING. Mixing it with Beastmode kinda made it taste normal with a stinging after taste.
    Here was the workout. Don't be too surprised at the volume as I have run a similar cycle with this much volume before.

    Shoulder press
    45x20
    55x15
    55x15
    55x15
    55x15

    Squat
    135x20
    135x20
    135x20
    135x20
    135x20
    135x20

    Bench press
    135x15
    135x15
    135x15
    135x15

    Bent over row
    95x15
    115x15
    135x15
    135x15
    135x15
    135x15

    Upright rows
    50x15
    50x15
    50x15
    50x15

    EZbar curl/Tricep OH EZbar ext
    50x15/15
    50x15/15
    50x15/15
    50x15/15


    Every rep was done at 2s neg and 1s positive... this was by far the most insane workout ever... I will be lowering the volume a tad bit. But I am doing a UD2 modification. MWF, refeed on friday and sat. Sunday is back to dieting down. Basically friday post workout will be around 200g carbs, saturday will be around 200 as well. This should keep me from looking to bloated. During the week I will use around 100g carbs on the workout days, in the form of white rice post workout. I have read research on both sides of the GDA argument that GDAs BLOCK glycogen uptake by blocking the digestion of carbs in the intestines and thus the body just doesn't use them. AND the other where it turns on Glut4 cells in the muscles. Either way I am pretty sure Need2Slin addresses BOTH in preventing over flow by limiting carb digestion AND turning on glut4.


    Other notes, I forgot to mention I am also on erase pro, and 3 days before this I was coming off my full recovery cycle of torem/dex. I had a run in with bunk serms and then got straightened out by ordering from someplace else. Much better quality, hell the other stuff probably wasn't even real at all. Anyhow, I have gotten it all back and feel "normal" again. Cept I am REALLY dry. Like I feel similar to how I do on a DHT hormone.

    Anyone else notice it working this fast? I have dropped my AI down to nothing. I know Dex's half life is somewhere around 3-4 days but I was on .2ml for the last week. (which would be .2mgs) I also, dropped out Torem around 1 week ago tapered down to 20mgs at the last week.

    Could just be that with the stopping of the SERM my serum estrogen is just lower and so the AI in Erase is taking my estrogen TOO low. Any thoughts?
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    That workout looks intense how much time btw sets?

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    about 1-1.5 mins. Depends on how long it takes my workout buddy to finish his set.
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    Day 2

    Pretty much no change just noticeably DRY. Diet was pretty on so far today. Around 200g protein, a whole ton of veggies and some fats from CLA, fish oil tabs, and coconut milk/oil.

    Tomorrow is a build day so i'm looking at 3500 cals... thank god I'm pretty sure today I am down to around 1600 just because I just don't have enough time/space to cook and store enough food... (Gettin warmer, can no longer put food in my workout room to store lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    about 1-1.5 mins. Depends on how long it takes my workout buddy to finish his set.
    Looks good. I'm going to use it with my brother in Vegas before we kill it at the pool.
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    Looks good. I'm going to use it with my brother in Vegas before we kill it at the pool.
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