- 04-02-2011, 11:36 PM
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Ok so after some revising this is what I have for a 6 week cycle
Trenazone 2 bottles
Pstanz 2 bottles (300 mg)
Cycle assist (currently preloading)
Formadrol (low dose 1-2 caps daily )
Kale Juice (for lipids)
I am prone to high blood pressure hence the extra hawthorne berry. I wil be using fairly liberal doses of it to keep bp in check
For PCT I'm removing nolva after further research am debating on whether a Serm is actually necessary based on the logs. If I do use one though It will be Torem I'd rather invest the extra money for less sides and toxicity and faster recovery.
If Otc pct I will use HCG-DAAaxis, Animal Test, Inhibit E (at a slowly reducing dose), substerone and Animal Mstak as it puts my body into immediate bulk mode. It'll be alot but I already have most of this stuff already and this seems sufficient for a jumpstart
BTW I also take Buproprion which will aid in the jumpstart of recovery. I have no data to support this just my own experience
I'm currently strength training goal for the end of the cycle is to bench press 405 and incline 315
- 04-03-2011, 10:37 AM
With pro dienolone, I would do one of two things for prolactin sides.
1) take pstanz at 300mg everyday, it is shown to block the progestin receptors from prolactin.
2) dose p5p, b6, maybe Ldopa, maybe hghup or hghpro
But that is pro dienolone, trenazone is dienolone. I've heard the sides are much less present than with traditional pro dienolone orals.
Id like to see a log for you cycle. Let me know if you need anymore advice. I try to help ya out.
- 04-04-2011, 02:30 AM
Thx I really appreciate your help. So is this the p5p you were referring too? pyridoxal 5 phosphate?
04-04-2011, 08:25 AM
Yes, p5p = pyridoxal 5 phosphate
Here's a link to some decent prolactin / Pro Deinolone control info : Prolactin Control Required for Pro dienedrone/Epi Stack?
but, once again that's for pro deinolone, which I'm not sure the same will apply to deinolone. It should, but just a fair warning.
check in and let us know how it's going every once in awhile
04-13-2011, 06:39 AM
So is this going to be a log? I'd be interested in how this goes as I'm going to give it a try in a couple months
Recoverbro Elite"This is what we've been working on"
04-13-2011, 06:19 PM
04-13-2011, 07:07 PM
04-13-2011, 07:12 PM
"With pro dienolone, I would do one of two things for prolactin sides.
1) take pstanz at 300mg everyday, it is shown to block the progestin receptors from prolactin."
Bakerderek0 do you think furaza would have the same effect?
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im the sh!t, even your girlfriend can smell it
04-15-2011, 04:09 PM
04-15-2011, 04:51 PM
Get some Androhard and run that instead of the Stanodrol. I just finished a cycle of Trenazone/Androhard. Great cycle. I don't know if I would go 6 weeks. I planned on 8 but only ended up going 4 weeks 3 days for the Trenazone and Saturday will be my last day of Androhard making 5 weeks. The application of the Trenazone really gets to be a pain in the butt. Also start with 4 sprays and work up to 8. At higher dosages comes increased blood pressure. Don't immediately start at 8 and wait at least 10 days before increasing the dosage when working your way up.
04-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Solid advice I already have pstanz but will def ramp up the dosage of trenazone
04-21-2011, 11:04 PM
Is their a reason why you cut your cycle a month short?
04-21-2011, 11:16 PM
whats going on here? tren stano? just up it all to max after one week and lets make some muscle cells double in size!
04-24-2011, 06:46 PM
04-24-2011, 08:04 PM
Hmmm... ill have to make sure I eat really clean already ingesting 1.2 to 1.5 grams total of milk thistle will have to be sure I find more foods to support hdl levels. Any suggestions guys?
04-24-2011, 08:08 PM
04-24-2011, 08:56 PM
Ill look into sesamin oil based on mayo clinic recommendations Im going to be drinking alot of Kale juice. Now I just have to figure out where to find it lol. I've also decided to order liver long after researching Tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA). I'm giving trenazone about as much respect as I possibly can.
Sure will def post post cycle bloodwork
05-05-2011, 05:28 PM
05-07-2011, 08:16 AM
sorry man finishing finals and your bloodwork made me increase my support supps alot more than originally planned lol. Log will start May 10th which is the day I take my last final.
Also doesnt help that I can't seem to find a legit place to order torem from
05-07-2011, 06:49 PM
Add some Vitex along with your P5P, L-Dopa, etc.
05-07-2011, 10:02 PM
Aware me on Vitex? I get depressed when I take L-dopa
05-10-2011, 04:49 PM
Alright guys last final is done. Just applied 4 sprays of trenazone on my ankles and wrists. Man does this stuff burn. Just another side note I'll be taking a dose of hawthorne berry every time I apply trenazone to head off high blood pressure.
If you guys have any questions please feel free to ask
05-11-2011, 03:35 PM
Slept fine applied 4 more sprays in the same areas. No side effects good or bad yet.
05-11-2011, 11:03 PM
Hey guys just checking real quick is anybody still following this?I know it took me a long time to start
05-11-2011, 11:20 PM
05-12-2011, 07:13 PM
Last night did some killer negatives on bench with 405. Body felt wrecked as soon as I was done. Woke up. This morning not feeling very sore though. Either this is placebo or trenazone is kicking in baby!!!
05-13-2011, 01:07 PM
I'm in...interesting to see how it works for you.
05-13-2011, 02:36 PM
nice! can't wait to see how this works out for ya
05-13-2011, 02:45 PM
Recoverbro Elite"This is what we've been working on"
05-13-2011, 04:43 PM
Welcome guys glad to have you all along. Willl make the jump from 4 sprays to 6 tomorrow. Reason for the slow ramping is to try and prevent high blood pressure or rather avoid a giant spike in it.
05-15-2011, 02:28 AM
Okay guys first day of 6 sprays and the first day I feel on. Muscle were harder. I hopped on squat rack and was ripping 315 at the end of my workout. This was my max a week ago wwhen I tested it! Love this stuff. Application is kind of a pain but from what I've read the next batch will be a lotion so you guys wont have to worry about that. Take care all good luck in your goals!
05-16-2011, 08:21 PM
Blood pressure headaches have kicked in. Seems as though they are unavoidable for a while on this product hopefully they will pass soon. In the meantime going to go gorge on a giant steak and chicken this stuff is making my appetite soar.
05-18-2011, 11:07 PM
Headaches have subsided they made it impossible to do much of anything. Chest day is on friday I will max then and hopefully post some great strength gains
05-19-2011, 07:15 PM
subbed.. will be starting mine pretty soon
05-19-2011, 08:12 PM
05-21-2011, 01:16 AM
Sorry guys unfortunately did not get enough carbs before my workout and as result was very weak and light headed. I'll hopefully try again on sunday. However weighed myself and I'm up 3 lbs. No change in body fat so thats a positive!
05-24-2011, 07:05 AM
Good new and bad news. I decided to just go for 405 on bench today just to see where I'm at. I was unsuccesful this time. However unlike the previous week when I did negatives with it and could not budge the bar of my chest on my own. This time I got it about half way up off of my chest. I put in some good tricep work with some static holds on incline and decline and some heavy Tricep push downs and deadlifts. I'm guessing by next week I should be able to press 405...No new side effects to report not even really shut down. Good luck in your goals all!!!
05-24-2011, 07:09 AM
good job! 405 is really impressive. im ALMOST considering doing this for a summer cycle, but im still very cautious about dienolone and pro-dienolone. you said the bp and headaches were already showing up? are they persistent or is it just at certain times?
05-24-2011, 09:02 AM
They passed but to be fair Ive been using a fairly high dosage of Hawthorne berry to keep them away. This stuff is really more for strength it seems to me then anything else. A nearly 30 lbs jump in bench in less then 2 weeks is insane especially considering I dont really look any different with the exception of my core and triceps.which simply look more defined
05-24-2011, 09:26 AM
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