Post PCT Libido

[sdallen]

Hello all,

I am a 51 year old bodybuilder: 230lbs - 7.6%BF

I finished a moderate cycle 8 weeks ago that consisted of:

800mg/wk Test Prop
400mg/wk Deca300

The PCT consisted of Clomid 100mg - Nolvadex 20mg first 10days then Colmid 50mg - Nolvadex 20mg for the next 2 weeks along with the usual OTC's, ZMA, Trib, Restore, etc.

I have retained almost all of my gains (I began at 209lbs and finished at just over 230lbs) but now 8 weeks after the cycle I am having some issues with libido which is much lower than before the cycle. Things like Cialis do nothing in the absence of libido so I began taking Cabergaline at 1mg/wk in an attempt to raise Dopamine levels (agonist). So far not too much luck. I can still "get it done" but really have to work at it and rarely finish anymore.

Now 8 weeks after cycle I am tempted to begin a short (8wk) low dose (250mg/wk) Test Cyp cycle to try and bring things back up so to speak then begin HCG near the end of the cycle and re-run the Clomid/Nolva PCT for 3 weeks.

Any thoughts, advice, input? I really appreciate the help guy's.

 

[OnTheRoadTo]

Possible culprits - low T, Low E, high E, High Prolactin

Gains retained, no low energy, no report of nuts still shrunk suggest T is OK

caber would knock out any prolactin issues, so it's not that.

PCT on SERMs was only 24 days, with no taper indicated. This makes me think the culprit is higher than normal estrogen levels. I'd recommend a very low dose of an aromatase inhibitor. Nolva in particular is a full antagonist for estrogen at the pituitary and hypothalamus, so rebound issues and issues with libido are not uncommon.

 

[sdallen]

Thanks OnTheRoadTo,

So would a low dose of Arimidex (.25mg EOD) sound reasonable or would you suggest low dose Nolva?

 

[OnTheRoadTo]

No more nolva - I'd go with the Adex. If symptoms don't get better or worsen in a week, it could actually be estrogen too low - but that doesn't really fit with the circumstances, IMO.

 

[sdallen]

I really appreciate the help. Low dose Adex it is, I'll let you know the outcome.

Steve.

 

[sdallen]

Just to let you know....the low dose Adex did the trick. In less than a week everything was back working better than before! Thank you so much for the insight.

Steve.

 

[JCunningham]

Wow, glad you fixed your problem!
Keep us updated on your libido in the coming days!
Hopefully the adex wasnt a quick fix.

 

[OnTheRoadTo]

He should be fine after a bit, his levels just rebounded high.

after a couple weeks, take an even lower dose adex (or just dose preworkout, I always like a little AI to get me fired up for the gym. You should have no rebound effect off the adex as long as you taper.

Glad to be of service.