Epi-Strong to get chiseled (Sponsored)
- 10-01-2010, 03:04 PM
Epi-Strong to get chiseled (Sponsored)
What up everyone, just decided to get this log up and running before I start my run of Epi-Strong, courtesy of mrsupps. Major love to the NTBM and MrSupps crew for hooking me up with this chance - it is much appreciated.
I am out of state with my family right now as my mother just had surgery (which was successful!) and I was here for support and now to help her as she recovers. I will be back to my home in Kentucky at the start of the week and expect to find a nice little package of Epi-Strong waiting for me at work when I return.
Basically, I figured this would be ample time to start doing some leg work on getting everything set up as needed to get this thing running smooth. This will be my first hormonal run, so I'm excited for it. I have been doing research on this stuff for several years (in depth for the past year) because I like to understand everything; even if I weren't to use or try it. However, I'm still in no way as well versed as many of the community members here are, nor does all the research in the world make up for actual experience using compounds. So, I am gladly looking for any and all advice on getting this thing done right.
First of all, let's go over my stats and goals. In May I cut down to 208 and was pretty ripped (though not where I wanted to be, still). At the suggestion of a friend, I decided to bulk for a while as I had been dieting pretty hard for quite a while, albeit the first portion of it was done incorrectly (wish I would have known all those years ago what I do now about the nutritional side of things). So, I ended up with 8 solid weeks of bulking and got myself up to 241 (largest I'd ever been). Made some major gains in chest and shoulders as well as my thighs. This was about an 80/20 clean bulk, but still dirty enough that there was some fat gain (about 1.5" on the waist). I've been slowly reducing cals and re-introducing cardio (as I had cut it out during the bulk to ensure maximum growth). Yesterday I weighed in at 233.6lbs.
I am 6'1" and have a pretty decent build, but there is a lot of extra fat (that I hold pretty well) that I want gone! You can check out my bodyspace (same user-name) if you want to see measurements, etc.
I've decided on a 4-day lifting split, with the other 3 days dedicated to cardio. Carb-cycling will be utilized and has been thus far. Lifting days are: Arms, Legs, Chest/Delts, Back/Traps. Abs will be done on cardio days as needed.
I am a packrat if there ever was one. I'm not home now, so I can't give a complete list of my supplement arsenal, but I'm going to give a bit of a rundown on what I have in my stash for you to weigh in on how you think I should bring some things into play.
What I'm currently taking:
OEP / Alpha T2 / Ephedrine (currently 12.5mg HCL - picking up some 25mg sulfate as well)
Multi-Vitamin (currently GNC Greens - probably switching back to Orange Triad once I finish this one-month bottle)
Anabolic Pump / P-Slin / SlinSane (as needed before carb-meals)
Power Shock (intra-workout / will be done relatively soon)
BC+EAA (as needed between meals, morning, night and pre-workout)
Jack3d (pre - just 1 scoop)
Trutein (for my during the day usage)
ON Casein (pre-bed)
What is in my stash of goodies that can be used whenever necessary:
SCRx bulk powder
ton of other fat burners and pre-workouts
I'm sure there's a ton of other stuff I'm forgetting, but you get the jist.
So, if anyone would like to weigh in on what would be beneficial to add in with or after the Epi-Strong, please let me know - I'm all ears.
I have to bolt now, but I'll add in more information soon and work on setting up a schedule for the pre-cycle, cycle, and post-cycle.
Gotta love it!
- 10-01-2010, 03:05 PM
Epi-Strong Review (11-30-10):
Okay, so I ended up with 4 weeks of Epi-Strong (along side CEL's Stano-Drol for the duration at 450mg and then 600mg). As could be expected, it was pretty slow to start off at 30mg, and at 45mg I couldn't really visually notice much, but I did take notice on the day I did about 8 sets of incline bench press after a full delt workout and nearly PR'ed on a ~2,500 cal/day diet compared to the ~4,500 cal/day diet I was looking at when I set the PR this summer.
Then, at 60mg I really enjoyed it (note that CEL's H-Drol was now in play at 50mg, too). From a scientific standpoint for determining things, I didn't do the best job (though admittedly that was not my top priority here). This was my first hormonal run of any kind and I'd like to call it successful, though it wasn't quite as much as I had expected.
This is a product that I will definitely run again and likely at a higher dose (60mg right out the gate and maybe even 75mg). Since it was my first run, I was very cautious. I didn't notice any negative sides from this at all (aside from some initial acne, which extra scrubbing with the loofah seemed to take care of).
Strength is an area where this really shined. I didn't notice much for size (obviously), since I was in caloric deficit, but it does react interestingly. When I was just about maintenance, I was packing on pounds pretty quickly and eating very clean. It seems to really love the carbs and add on weight quickly when they are in play.
I look forward to running this again in the future at a higher dosage and possibly when attempting to bulk.
10-01-2010, 03:06 PM
Saved for Final Review and Final Stats.
10-02-2010, 01:42 AM
10-02-2010, 04:00 AM
10-02-2010, 04:05 AM
So the big goal for me on this is to legitimately cut. I'm not fooling around with a recomp. That's great and what I'll likely do in the future, but right now, I'm solely concerned with getting to single digit bf% and looking near-contest ready.
With that in mind, I'm planning on still eating at a caloric deficit, though I may play around with how much of one depending on how things go.
As a first time cycle, would those of you who have done this already suggest doing the epi solo and calling that good? Or would bridging over into something else be reasonable/worth-while? Like I said, I have 2 bottles each of H-Drol and Stano-Drol in the stash that haven't been touched. I was really toying with the idea of Katanadrol with Epi - but I'm trying to use what I have before I start stock-piling anymore considering the lack of cupboard space I have.
I was thinking of front-loading the Cycle Support 1.5-2 weeks in advance before starting the Epi. Still setting up the PCT, as it will also depend on whether I go with just Epi or anything else along with it.
10-02-2010, 04:32 AM
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10-02-2010, 10:38 AM
Epi-strong will be a great first cycle and no need to stack with anything. However, in my opinion I would have 2 bottles and run 5-6 weeks. Epi can take 3 weeks to really kick in good and by week 4 the fun really starts and you won't want it to end.
10-02-2010, 07:04 PM
im gonna get some epi soon
The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.
10-02-2010, 07:20 PM
10-06-2010, 07:27 PM
All right, well things are about to start getting serious in here. As the time nears, I will be very dedicated to putting a ton of info in this log.
Right now I'm just trying to piece everything together as I get ready to place on last order from NP to get all the remaining things I don't already have. This is the idea I have and am toying with:
Epi-Strong bridged into H-Drol/Stano-Drol (and possibly running Stano-Drol the whole way through). Any thoughts on this?
Dosing I'm looking at is:
*450 continued throughout if ran the whole time
That layout doesn't show the off weeks of H-Drol to start, so that would be 0/0/0 or so.
Just started my cycle assist today. Planning on running it for the remainder of the week and next week, starting my cycle on the following Monday (1.5 weeks pre-loading).
Planning on running 10g Fish Oil daily with this, throwing in some bulk cissus powder if needed, Orange Triad as my multi. I have extra milk thistle to add in if necessary.
PCT will be nolva that I'm working on getting a hold at the moment. Also picking up PCT assist to use if needed. Have Inhibit-E, Suppress-C and Liver Assist XT to use as needed too (all pointers would be much appreciated here).
I also have Erase and am looking for advice on whether to take it during cycle or post for most optimal results.
I'll keep updating. If anyone sees any huge flaws in this, please let me know. And like I said, as this is my first cycle, I'm looking for all the help on this that I can (I do a lot of research, but I love hearing from those who have done this before). I've got 11 years of lifting experience and about 5 years of natural supplementation. Diet is also very much on point (carb-cycling; going into keto if it's that necessary).
I'm currently hovering around 235 and looking to absolutely shred on this run. I'd love recomp, added strength, etc. but the bottom line is I want to melt every ounce of body fat off. I'm planning to taper off of OEP/T2/Ephedrine in the next week and then bring it back after this cycle is in the books (along with some clen and/or T3 possibly).
Thanks for helping me set this thing up, guys!
10-06-2010, 07:37 PM
10-06-2010, 07:41 PM
im in this biatch
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10-06-2010, 11:31 PM
So here's what my current supplement lineup is looking like leading up to the cycle (just gonna show a week day as the times are easier to lay out - everything stays the same but the times on weekends):
6:30 OEP/T2/12.5mg Ephedrine HCl
7:00 Meal 1 / Multi / 2g Fish Oil / 4 caps Cycle Assist
9:30 Meal 2
10:30 OEP/T2/12.5mg Ephedrine HCl
12:00 Meal 3
2:30 OEP/T2/12.5mg Ephedrine HCl
3:00 Meal 4 (Pre-Workout)
4:00 1 scoop Jack3d / 1 serving BC+EAA
4:30 Work Out (1.5-2 scoops Power Shock intra currently - will change back to bulk BCAAs soon 24:6:6 and possibly 2.5g BA)
6:00 Meal 5 (Post-Workout Whey Shake / maybe carbs)
7:00 Meal 6 (Post-Workout Whole food meal) / multi / 2g Fish Oil / 4 caps Cycle Assist / Glutamine if needed
9:30 Meal 7 (Casein Shake)
Nutrient partitioners are used preceding heavy carb meals. I switch between high, moderate and low carb days. For the most part, though, this is representative of what I'm doing and will continue to do leading into cycle.
10-07-2010, 03:28 AM
10-09-2010, 05:21 PM
I've just been pre-loading my Cycle Assist thus far and the cycle will start on not this Monday, but the next. If there is no input from others discouraging this or making changes, this is what I'm planning on doing:
Epi-Strong: 30/ 45/ 45/ 45/ 45
H-Drol: 50/ 75/ 75/ 75/ 75/ 75
Epi: Weeks 1-5
H-Drol: Weeks 4-9
Stano-Drol: Weeks 1-9
The Stano-Drol is recommended at 450 for cutting cycles, but as a 235lb guy, I may bump it up near the end and just cut the cycle shorter. Again, input is welcomed.
*edit: I had all the doses spaced out for each week with spaces, but apparently it doesn't like that lol. And I don't feel like going back in to put 0's in.
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