sustanon + dbol + pplex + ?

[MarBaSxx]

So im just putting together some of the last things i need for my summer cycle. im running sustanon 400 and will throw some orals into the mix

week 1 - sustanon 500 mg + dbol 25 mg per day + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 2 - sustanon 500 mg + dbol 25 mg per day + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 3 - sustanon 500 mg + dbol 25 mg per day + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 4 - sustanon 500 mg + dbol 25 mg per day + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 5 - sustanon 500 mg + dbol 25 mg per day + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 6 - sustanon 500 mg + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 7 - sustanon 500 mg + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 8 - sustanon 500 mg + 10 mg epidrol as AI
week 9 - sustanon 500 mg + pplex 30 mg +10 mg epidrol as AI
week 10 - sustanon 500 mg + pplex 30 mg +10 mg epidrol as AI
week 11 - sustanon 500 mg + pplex 45 mg +10 mg epidrol as AI
week 12 - sustanon 500 mg + pplex 45 mg +10 mg epidrol as AI

im going to start something like this next week. i will log my progress here. ive run many oral cycles before...this is my first injectable cycle.

i could throw some d-plex or something in at the start if the dbol turns out to be bunk. Alot of bad bd pink 50s going around

 

[tompa6313]

Good effort mate keep us updated!

 

[MarBaSxx]

pct isnt set in stone yet... i have nolva on hand and will run that.

 

[nyoung807]

running a similar cycle now, except no orals at the end.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/152201-burning-midnight-oil.html

you had good experience with dbol?

 

[MarBaSxx]

I should be starting this today...Ive already started the dbol. Im just going to do 25 mg a day and go from there

Did 25 minutes of cardio this morning and did some ab work. Nothing special.

 

[gamer2be08]

25mg is a low dose. If you havent taken it before and dont know how you would dose it, stick to 50mg pre workout..

 

[gamer2be08]

And if you have m-drol, I would run that the last 3-4 weeks of cycle instead of p-plex; gains are dryer and more lean.

 

[MarBaSxx]

And if you have m-drol, I would run that the last 3-4 weeks of cycle instead of p-plex; gains are dryer and more lean.

I agree about pplex being wet gains and really doesnt make much sense for me to have it at the end of the cycle. Im def going to to consider using mdrol or something else instead of pplex...i just respond really well to pplex. And yes this is my first time using dbol. I will go between 25 and 50 mgs...The tabs are 50 mg tabs so i dont really have much choice. Thanks for the feed back

 

[gamer2be08]

I agree about pplex being wet gains and really doesnt make much sense for me to have it at the end of the cycle. Im def going to to consider using mdrol or something else instead of pplex...i just respond really well to pplex. And yes this is my first time using dbol. I will go between 25 and 50 mgs...The tabs are 50 mg tabs so i dont really have much choice. Thanks for the feed back

You said you didnt really feel the d-bol at 25 mg right? You will feel it at 50mg though... You'll want to smash the iron and the pumps are amazing.. I know what you mean by responding well to p-plex, its great stuff..

 

[MarBaSxx]

Just did my first injection ever...didnt think id be that nervous but i was. Everything seemed to go well. But i tried to push the oil in too fast, and when i pulled the needle out it was bent. I dont know if thats a bad thing or not. I dont have any pain or anything. It was a glute shot with a 25 1.5

 

[MarBaSxx]

Oh wow my ass hurts alot more the second day!

 

[MarBaSxx]

update *

My glute is uber sore, but it isnt a big deal. I do feel little test flu maybe...or maybe its just the glute pain.

Did back tonight, felt alittle stronger and more intense. Not sure if im feeling the dbol yet. I only took 25 mg or so pre workout. Weight is alittle up, Im sitting around 250 exactly. Not sure if i will pin on thursday or not. I ordered some 1 inch pins for my delts and quads so they will probably get here friday. I might wait for friday to do it.

 

[unc21]

In all likelihood you from the bent needle, prolly damaged some muscle or nerves on the way out, thats why its really sore.

Just be patient when injecting. You wanna take about 15 seconds or so for every 1cc of oil youre injecting while doing it.

 

[MarBaSxx]

In all likelihood you from the bent needle, prolly damaged some muscle or nerves on the way out, thats why its really sore.

Just be patient when injecting. You wanna take about 15 seconds or so for every 1cc of oil youre injecting while doing it.

Thanks for the reply...yeah your probably right...i was in a hurry and nervous

 

[unc21]

yah, the first time doing it is a little nerve racking. After doing it a few times, you'll be pretty comfortable.

 

[MarBaSxx]

update *

Took 25 mg dbol preworkout. Did some shoulder work tonight. Shoulders are my strong body part. I noticed some increase on hammer strength machine as i did 300 lb press for 5 reps which is a PR for me. Everything seemed alittle easier even though i felt kinda tired at the gym. Tomorrow im thinking i will shoot my other glute. Hopefully it goes better then my first shot! Wish me luck.

 

[MarBaSxx]

i think im going to throw in the towel on this one. didnt think needles would bother me as much as they have. i cant believe i wasted so much time and money on something i cant even do

 

[MarBaSxx]

You guys are going to think im bipolar but i said **** it and finally did it. Back on again until next shot lol...did right delt

 

[MarBaSxx]

Also just some overall thoughts...i was dreaming this morning of ****ing this girl in the ass and then woke up with the biggest morning wood ive ever had. Also my body is looking bigger. I can really see it in my delts and biceps. They are big and veiny. Theres no doubt the test is legit. Well i knew it was before i used it because the source i got it from is legit. Not really sure about the dbol yet. Maybe the dbol is why im looking bigger??? Well im gonna continue pressing on. Will do legs tonight at the gym

 

[tompa6313]

Probs is the dbol doing it's magic mate I responded quite well to just 25 mg first time I had them and noticed strength and shape/size within about 4 days or so they give you awesome pumps I felt like my arms were going to explode one time lol . Keep the updates coming dude .

 

[MarBaSxx]

kinda lame just showing my arm lol but its all i want to show right now...im fat around the mid section

 

[MarBaSxx]

Update *

Did some leg action this morning, went decent. My legs are already stronger then they have ever been lol But the workout wasnt as good as it could be because i had some major back pumps already. Another thing I am noticing is im sweating ridiculously. Id like to some feedback on this next part...I added...

10 mg epidrol for an AI everyday...ive seen others do this and i dont have an AI on hand at the moment..good idea or bad?

 

[OmniRed]

Update *

Did some leg action this morning, went decent. My legs are already stronger then they have ever been lol But the workout wasnt as good as it could be because i had some major back pumps already. Another thing I am noticing is im sweating ridiculously. Id like to some feedback on this next part...I added...

10 mg epidrol for an AI everyday...ive seen others do this and i dont have an AI on hand at the moment..good idea or bad?

Some people do that to combat gyno, but at that dosage it's not going to be a real benefit for anything other than that. If you really feel like you need it, it's not going to hurt you with the combo you're running, but honestly, unless you suspect gyno it's not necessary.

 

[OmniRed]

Also just some overall thoughts...i was dreaming this morning of ****ing this girl in the ass and then woke up with the biggest morning wood ive ever had. Also my body is looking bigger. I can really see it in my delts and biceps. They are big and veiny. Theres no doubt the test is legit. Well i knew it was before i used it because the source i got it from is legit. Not really sure about the dbol yet. Maybe the dbol is why im looking bigger??? Well im gonna continue pressing on. Will do legs tonight at the gym

It's probably the D-bol. The reason i suspect that is simply because injectables take a bit longer to act. Even with Sus, which has 4 esters that release at different times, the D-bol will be quicker acting.

Test e - 3-5 weeks
Test prop - 2-3 days
Test cyp - 3-5 days
etc..

It's kinda like tren ace vs tren e. Ace will show up quicker, and not last as long. Tren E will take longer to get started (hence front load or kickstart with something like T-bol or D-bol) but last longer and be more steady in the body.

Sus is like the middle ground of this. Chances are you're seeing the effects of the oral first. But it sounds like it's going well. Good luck bro.

 

[MarBaSxx]

It's probably the D-bol. The reason i suspect that is simply because injectables take a bit longer to act. Even with Sus, which has 4 esters that release at different times, the D-bol will be quicker acting.

Test e - 3-5 weeks
Test prop - 2-3 days
Test cyp - 3-5 days
etc..

It's kinda like tren ace vs tren e. Ace will show up quicker, and not last as long. Tren E will take longer to get started (hence front load or kickstart with something like T-bol or D-bol) but last longer and be more steady in the body.

Sus is like the middle ground of this. Chances are you're seeing the effects of the oral first. But it sounds like it's going well. Good luck bro.

Thanks for the reply man...yeah im guessing dbol too i just never felt so strong. Ive tried all the other orals out there and dbol is lights out way stronger for me. Im really excited for the test to fully kick in.

 

[MarBaSxx]

Update *

Did chest this afternoon and wow. I was really excited for chest since i havent done it yet on this cycle. The pumps might be alittle too much for me though, the chest pump I had after doing my warmup with 135 was sick. It almost hurt too much to where I sat on the bench for a minute or two just waiting for it to go away lol. I didnt have a spotter but went up to 245 which isnt anywhere near my max but i felt really good with this weight.

Only other notable thing was i usually start my workout with a hoodie on and then take it off about halfway through. Well when i took my hoodie off Ive never seen myself so swollen in the mirror in my life. Superdrol nor any other oral has blown me up like this...I cant wait to see where this takes me!!

 

[nyoung807]

subbed and looking forward to this, we started about the same time should be interesting.

You'll get over the pins bro. At least you don't have to pin 2ml every time, that sucks.

What mg dbol you at now? I am loving this dbol. It's was better than any PH iv'e ever used. I'm not getting the immediate strength gains like I did from SD or the sides. So far i'm not having any sides except awesome libido and mood not to mention great motivation and some strength and weight increase. I took 50mg of dbol this morning PWO and it was insane.

 

[hog928]

yea dont give up your gonna regret it. Just keep going man im interested in this one. Im starting my cycle Monday sustaplex 325 625 mg/wk. If i feel good i might add something into the end of mine to (oral wise).

 

[OmniRed]

Thanks for the reply man...yeah im guessing dbol too i just never felt so strong. Ive tried all the other orals out there and dbol is lights out way stronger for me. Im really excited for the test to fully kick in.

Just keep in mind with Dianabol in particular, people report gains of 20-25lbs but it's watery weight, you will have a significant amount of bloat, even in your face. So if you get Doughboy symptoms, look at some Adex or something at .5.

Users, have reported keeping anywhere between 30-50% of those gains though, which is still AWESOME for a bulking oral over a 6 week span.

Your alternative next time is T-Bol (Oral Turnibol) It's a derivitave of D-bol with a carbon in another location i believe (i could be wrong about that). It's a little different in the sense, that it offers a similar effect minus the water weight. This is nice, because it seems to stick around longer, and also has some fat reduction properties.

Tbol - 10-15lbs and losing maybe 2-3% bf with proper diet, keeping 70-80%.
Dbol - 20-25lbs and maintaining BF, while keeping 30/50%

Might be an option moving forward for you.

 

[nyoung807]

The test will help solidify those gains, correct me if i'm wrong, so 30%-50% isn't quite accurate when test is the base, but is accurate if dbol is used alone.

 

[MarBaSxx]

thanks for all the great feedback and comments guys

 

[OmniRed]

The test will help solidify those gains, correct me if i'm wrong, so 30%-50% isn't quite accurate when test is the base, but is accurate if dbol is used alone.

Correct.

I'm referring to it as a stand alone compound. With test it's going to be skewed, but it wouldn't be too far off. Dont expect to keep more than 30% of your Dbol gains even with test.

If you do, then that's awesome man, but most def. dont expect it.

 

[tbinnerarity]

put up some post cycle pics whenever you're done! I just ordered some d-bol and hoping it will be in soon. Not really sure what to stack it with though. Any suggestions?

 

[MarBaSxx]

put up some post cycle pics whenever you're done! I just ordered some d-bol and hoping it will be in soon. Not really sure what to stack it with though. Any suggestions?

i will be taking pictures through out the whole thing...probably post some up tomorrow or tuesday

 

[MarBaSxx]

Update *

Did back and some bicep work last night. Strength was crazy and had a PR on the sit down lat pull/row thingy...dont know what to call it. One of my main goals for this cycle is to really bring up my chest so I am hoping next week to have a PR on my bench press. I will inject tomorrow into my left delt. My right delt was awesome for my last inject. It hurt alittle after but pretty mild pain compared to my glute shot. I feel like im feeling some of the test, my libido has increased quite a bit. Im def feeling more aggressive.

 

[MarBaSxx]

Im going to do cardio only at the gym tonight. I work overnights so i will cardio it up and then head to work. Luckly i work at a grocery store so i can eat anything I want

 

[OmniRed]

Update *

Did back and some bicep work last night. Strength was crazy and had a PR on the sit down lat pull/row thingy...dont know what to call it. One of my main goals for this cycle is to really bring up my chest so I am hoping next week to have a PR on my bench press. I will inject tomorrow into my left delt. My right delt was awesome for my last inject. It hurt alittle after but pretty mild pain compared to my glute shot. I feel like im feeling some of the test, my libido has increased quite a bit. Im def feeling more aggressive.

Typically D-bol will leave people feeling with a reduced Libido, whereas T-bol gives an increase... so logic should say that the Test is kicking in if your having more of a boost in that particular area.

Sounds like it's going well.

 

[MarBaSxx]

Just did delt inject...I think it went pretty smooth. I went alittle higher on my left delt trying to avoid any veins. No blood at all when i pulled the needle and I was like "where did i inject" I couldnt find the spot lol. I added alittle more test to this shot then previous. Did almost 1 ml/400 mg. I will probably do less on my second shot of the week though. I had no hesitation before I injected, so thanks to all you guys that gave me the encouragement. I will do shoulders tonight at the gym so that will be interesting. Hopefully I have no pain

 

[MarBaSxx]

Starting weight - 245
Todays weight - 251

 

[MarBaSxx]

 

[MarBaSxx]

im still trying to hide my fat stomach but im getting more brave...id rather take pictures after the gym so im atleast pumped but its not really an option today

 

[OmniRed]

Just did delt inject...I think it went pretty smooth. I went alittle higher on my left delt trying to avoid any veins. No blood at all when i pulled the needle and I was like "where did i inject" I couldnt find the spot lol. I added alittle more test to this shot then previous. Did almost 1 ml/400 mg. I will probably do less on my second shot of the week though. I had no hesitation before I injected, so thanks to all you guys that gave me the encouragement. I will do shoulders tonight at the gym so that will be interesting. Hopefully I have no pain

That's not a bad thing to do shoulders after a pin in the delt. It helps spread the oil out a little bit. It's like massaging it in.

 

[MarBaSxx]

So the post office called me this morning and told me someone had ripped open my package from bodybuilding . com that had hawthorn berry in it for blood presure. What a waste to steal hawthorn berry

 

[OmniRed]

So the post office called me this morning and told me someone had ripped open my package from bodybuilding . com that had hawthorn berry in it for blood presure. What a waste to steal hawthorn berry

At least it's cheap.

 

[MarBaSxx]

update *

injected tonight...work outs have been decent. I was at a concert all day today, I saw...Hell Yeah, Papa Roach, Rob Zombie, Godsmack...was a great time but didnt eat anything but **** or drink anything. I feel like **** right now but im gonna go bench alittle before i go to bed

 

[MarBaSxx]

This pic was from the night

 

[MarBaSxx]

Anyway I had one of the greatest shoulder workouts ever yesterday. Im a beast in the gym right now. Every lift is almost too easy and I havent been maxing out because of fear of injury. Libido is straight up sick. I feel like im on viagra 24/7. Anyway Im still hitting up the dbol as well. Missed my inject today since I slept all morning and girlfriend came home from work but I will do it tomorrow morning.

 

[hog928]

Bump to top where's your log today lol i like this one lol

 

[MarBaSxx]

Bump to top where's your log today lol i like this one lol

thanks for reading...im happy to know someone is

 

[hog928]

im on a cycle right now to of sustaplex 325 at 650/wk but you got the oral jumpstart so you have gains already, must be nice lol. No im hoping it starts to kick in next week. But yea keep this going im intrested in this