My Methyl-1,4ADDiol Experience
03-04-2004 01:09 AM
Not to jack your thread, but I wonder how the addition of a 4OHT transdermal would do with this? Anybody have any thoughts, or would it be money down the toilet?
03-08-2004 09:42 AM
Sorry haven't updated in awhile. I have since added (starting 3 days ago), 300mg of 1ad to my cycle because I have half a bottle leftover.
I weighed in this morning at 194.4!! That is up about 7 lbs since the start of my cycle, and is the most I have ever weighed. Strength is going up slightly, and not nearly as much as I had anticipated. It may be too early in the cycle. I have also started taking my 30mg dose at one time during the morning, as opposed to 3 10mg doses spread throughout the day.
I have been having all great workouts so far, and the back pumps I was reporting earlier have disappeared. I had a good chest workout today, and a great arm workout on saturday.
Here are some of my lifts that have improved:
Standing Bicep Curl: 105 x 8 from 95 x 8
Incline Bench: 195 x 6 from 155 x 8
Wide Grip Chins: 16 max from 12 max
Most of my other lifts have remained about the same or have gone up only very slightly (1-2 more reps).
03-09-2004 11:19 AM
Super Lab Rat
sounds like it i s going good for you
03-09-2004 05:39 PM
Wait-- the 155 x 8 to 195 x 6 --- was on Military Press or Incline?
03-09-2004 05:43 PM
03-11-2004 09:32 AM
Day Twenty One:
Weighed in a 194.2 this morning. Had a great leg workout. Achived a PR on squats this morning!! 365 for 4. I could have possibly done more, but I did not have a spotter.
I am looking a little bloated. I am noticing some bloating in my face and in other areas. It is subtle, but noticeable. I look friggin huge though. I'm sure it will go away once I complete the cycle. 9 more days to go. I will take pictures then.
03-12-2004 11:08 AM
Day Twenty Two:
Weight this morning was 192. I dropped 2 lbs for some reason. I drank 1 beer last night, and woke up feeling pretty dehydrated. I couldn't imagine only 1 beer could cause me to lose 2 lbs, but I have no other explanation for it.
Had a good shoulder workout, strength is up slightly. Did 175 x 6 for military press, which is a decent improvement (started out at 155 x 8).
03-15-2004 11:37 AM
Day Twenty Five:
It was my wife's bday this weekend so I did not have a chance to hit the gym, and my diet was not 100%. Suprisingly I hadn't lost much weight, and strength was up.
I had arms today, and several of my lifts are up:
115 x 5 for standing bicep curls (up from 95 x 8)
115 x 10 for skullcrushers (up from 95 x 10)
35 x 10 for incline alt db curls (up from 30 x 10)
The cycle is almost over so I will be hitting the weights harder then ever this week, and make sure my diet is 100% perfect.
03-15-2004 01:32 PM
Good Stuff man, I'm thinking your last 7 days will be your best. Everyone sees the strength gains after 15days... Gotta ask: are you prone to MPB, and have you seen hairloss so far?
03-15-2004 02:14 PM
What's MPB? And no, I am not prone to hairloss, nor have I noticed any so far.
03-15-2004 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by ke0ki
03-17-2004 09:23 AM
Day Twenty Seven:
Only a few days left. I think the m14add and the 1ad are really kicking in now. Weight this morning was 196!!! This is the most I've ever weighed, and the strongest I've ever been.
Had a very good chest workout this morning. Strength is up on almost all exercises.
Bench: 255 x 7 (From 235 x 8)
Incline Bench: 200 x 8 (from 155 x 8) - this may look rather extreme, but I never have really pushed myself on incline bench like i have been doing because I never have a spotter, so this number is a bit skewed. Last week I was able to get 195 x 6, so I know that my strength is improving.
I am going to do pct for 3 weeks, then take a break from androgens for a long time. I'm planning on bulking till late April / early May, then cutting for the entire summer.
03-17-2004 09:28 AM
One thing I'd like to add is that the acne breakout I was experiencing towards the beginning of the cycle has cleared up. I believe it was caused by the initial fluctuation of hormones.
As far as side effects, I am still experiencing increased libido, increased energy, and a little bloating.
This is the most side effect-free cycle I've done yet. On 1ad/4ad I was lethargic all the time. On m1t I was lethargic & my muscles/joints ached so bad that it was hard to workout, and my libido was absolutely gone.
03-17-2004 12:11 PM
Looks good Keoki.
Totally understand about the spotter part. It's hard to push the envelope without one. I'm not even sure what my PR on bench would be because of this..buuut its just numbers.
Looks like stacking a 1-test with M1-4diol might be the way to go. Perhaps a little 4AD as well? hmmmm
03-17-2004 12:18 PM
4ad could be added, but I'm not sure if it'd be needed. M14add seems to be alleviating the lethargy from 1ad, but then again I'm only at 300mg a day of 1ad.
03-17-2004 01:48 PM
03-22-2004 08:55 PM
03-24-2004 09:12 AM
Well the cycle is over. On day 28, I got a very nasty stomach virus, and have been puking all day & night. I weighed myself and I have dropped to 187 I have not been able to keep any food down since yesterday, so my diet is horribly messed up and I'm very dehydrated. I could post pics, but it'd be pointless.
So all in all the cycle was basically worthless.
I would definetly recommend this cycle though, to any1 (over 21) who wants to experience moderate weight increase, with good strength gains, and very few side effects. This is without a doubt the most enjoyable cycle I have done so far.
03-24-2004 09:12 AM
I actually made it into the gym this morning, and my weight was 190. My diet is back on track, and surprisingly, I haven't lost much strength at all. I will post pictures tomorrow morning just for the heck of it.
03-24-2004 12:46 PM
Since I have started pct I have noticed some slight hairloss, which has never happened to me before, and increased acne, which I expected.
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