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  1. What do you think of The Vitamin Shoppe's generic brand of Hawthorne?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Jcc
    BAC= Beyond a Century

    LEF= Life Extension Foundation (I think)
    http://www.beyond-a-century.com

    http://www.lef.org

    Try following link as well, great prices for general health/vitamin needs and I've never had a problem with the products.

    http://www.puritan.com
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  3. Both are very reputable companies with high quality, standardized herbs and vitamins. Great prices as well.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by ke0ki
    Awesome log NM. Congrats on the gains. I'm in week 3 of my cycle, and have only seen moderate strength increases. I am hoping things will pick up near the end.

    My libido is also kicking full force. I am also noticing the increased acne & how it makes my skin oilier than usual. Sucks about the nose bleeds. I have not experienced them, but I am also only taking 30mg a day.

    Keep it up!
    Thanks man

    Have you considered upping the dose to 40mgs. I will check out your thread later tonight. It has been awhile since I have read up on it. Hope all is well.

  5. Thanks for the info and links guys. Greatly appreciated.
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  6. Mercy,

    How much longer are you running this?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Bing Crosby
    Mercy,

    How much longer are you running this?

    This Sunday.

  8. Day 33

    Not to much to report with today's workout. I was not feeling well so I did a quick workout with light weight.

    ~ Weighed in at 274 today. So apparently there is some water weight fluctuation going on. I started the cycle at 266. I gained a total of 8 pounds. Again I would like to have seen a greater increase in weight. However, I find it very difficult to put on mass now at my current size even with the use of legal compounds.

    ~ Bodyfat approx 15%. Same as the start of the cycle.

    ~ Strength gains are as follows:

    Bench press - Prior to cycle 335 for 3. Now 375 for 3
    Wide grip pull downs - Prior to cycle 260 for 3. Now 270 for 3
    Military press - Prior to cycle 195 for 3. Now 200 for 4
    Close grip bench - Prior to cycle 285 for 3. Now 325 for 2
    Squat- Prior to cycle 335 for 3. Now 385 for 3.

    ~ Overall appearance:

    My muscles appear very full and hard. I speculate that most of the water is in the muscle cells and not under the skin. I do not appear bloated at all.

    ~ NOTICABLE side effects:

    Occassional bloody noses
    Increased acne

    ~ Post cyle

    I will be using nolva, hawthorne berry, milk thistle, and swole v2

    ~ Comments

    I will continue to take the m1,4add Sat and Sunday. However, they are my days off and I will not be training.

    I want to again thank Sldge for the two complimentry bottles of m1,4add. I greatly appreciate your generosity Sldgehmr.

    I also want to thank everyone for following my thread and posting questions and comments.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by NO MERCY

    ~ Overall appearance:

    My muscles appear very full and hard. I speculate that most of the water is in the muscle cells and not under the skin. I do not appear bloated at all.
    Good job on the log man. I have been running 70mg with no adverse sides.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    Good job on the log man. I have been running 70mg with no adverse sides.
    Thanks man

    Be careful at 70mgs. Keep an eye on the blood pressure.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by NO MERCY
    Thanks man

    Be careful at 70mgs. Keep an eye on the blood pressure.
    Yup. Everythings normal. I do plenty of cardio. It helps keep it in check.

  12. hey lean one,
    did you take the whole 50mg together or did you take them through out the day?
    im working out at 8am so i am wondering if i should take it before the work out?

    just curious, thanks bro

  13. Quote Originally Posted by good_guye28
    hey lean one,
    did you take the whole 50mg together or did you take them through out the day?
    im working out at 8am so i am wondering if i should take it before the work out?

    just curious, thanks bro
    Allow me to bring you up to date bro.I have run 110mg/day with no adverse sides.I loved it. 30mg 3 x per day plus 20mg pre /WO. No adverse sides. This is just my experience. If you do this, watch for sides as you go up.

  14. looks like that would be one expensive cycle...........

  15. Quote Originally Posted by good_guye28
    looks like that would be one expensive cycle...........
    Not if you homebrew.

  16. In regards to the Hawthorne berry. I live in a very urban area with tons and tons of drug stores, and the only place I could find it was at GNC. I think it was $5 for a bottle.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Blazn'Steal
    In regards to the Hawthorne berry. I live in a very urban area with tons and tons of drug stores, and the only place I could find it was at GNC. I think it was $5 for a bottle.

    ya I couldnt find it any local pha's or supermarkets either.

  18. Its more of a health store thing so a Vitamin shoppe or a GNC would carry it.
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