Ok, just my .02, but everyone needs to stop giving the man a hard time about what he is and isn't willing to take. I see absolutely nothing wrong with his desire to stay completely above board in regards to whether what he takes is legal or not. He's in a position where his life, not to mention his career, could go completely down the ****ter if he's not careful about the 'supplements' he takes. Is it likely that he would get caught?...no, but that still might not justify the risk involved for him. Look, all I'm saying is that if you're unsure about the nolva don't use it, there are a lot of different options out there for you (6-oxo, PaCT, etc.). You already understand that they're not going to be as effective, but I seriously doubt you're going to be hypogonadal for the rest of your life if you don't use nolva. Anyways, thanks your cycle feedback and good luck with the rest of it.