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    johnyq's primoridal performance 1T (standalone) LOG


    I am doing a solo run of 1-T. I started wed 11/19, so I took my 6th dose today.


    Personal Background: First cycle other than dermacrine once. Plenty of "natural" products though.

    I just finished running drive and cre-02, and had a pretty good month. Before that I had a really poor gym record for about 6 months. So I'm a little round around the edges right now, but I'm re-committed

    My routine: very slightly modified west-side for skinny bastards v3.

    weight: 186 on day 1
    heigh: 5'7


    Cycle:

    4 weeks (possibly 6) of 1-T solo, 5 pumps a day in the morning after a shower. PCT will be PP's test recovery stack.

    I have RPM on hand if I ever need a preworkout supp, but I haven't needed it lately.

    All other supplements:
    NA-RALA, 300-400mg a day
    AOR ortho-core Multivitamin
    epicor
    EGCG
    ON whey
    Relentless post workout (protein +carbs)
    creatine post workout

    other pharma (started tuesday 11/18):
    tetracycline (antibiotic for skin)
    topical corticosteroid (for scalp)




    My experience up until this point:
    I started new prescriptions, as mentioned above, hopefully they had nothing to do with these initial experiences.

    Package:
    The new pumps/dispensers are extremely nice. Huge step up, and probably nicest packaging in the industry.

    Smell/aroma: I would describe it as pleasant and subtle

    application: no complaints. Does not leave an oily feeling, rubs on mostly dry. Leaves skin feeling nice and hydrated.



    Feedback:
    After application, I have noticed a slight feeling of hypoglycemia along with hunger and raised body temps, if that even makes sense. I feel overall tighter, and definitely more pumped, along with nice moods although nothing euphoric.


    On the second day I noticed a large increase in appetite, becoming insatiably hungry. By Friday, I was up 5 pounds, which I assume was mostly water retention, but obviously that extra food was going to effect me. This increase in hunger has continued, although is not as high as it was initially.

    Friday, I had an incredible day in the gym. Great drive and focus, but no anger at all (drive/rpm make me angry/mean, but similar focus). Best gym day in almost a year.





    I'll try and take a pic asap, so I have at least a comparison of now to the end.
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    thanks for the log, how's ur BP? libido?
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    libido is solid (slightly elevated), random erections, but not a ton of "gotta have it now" drive. Blood pressure was checked the day before I started and was 142/72 as I recall. I'll check it every week or so, whenever I make it up to the store.
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    Weight: 192 (+6lbs)

    Thats a lot of weight, I haven't noticed my waist expanding, and I don't feel fatter...just going to keep on with it I guess.


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    Workout 11/24

    Morning:
    15 minutes of skating to work.


    Evening:
    ME Lower body day


    Box squats
    (@x refers to height of box below parallel)
    5x145@-1"
    3x224@-1"
    3x255@0"
    3x275@0"
    2x295@0"
    0x305@0"***Doesn't count, spotter wasn't familiar with box squats and started helping right from the start, fairly sure I could have done it.

    Split squats, rear leg up on aerobic stepper
    95x7x7
    95x6x6
    95x6x5
    65x10x10 SS

    Romanian DL
    135x8
    155x7
    155x7

    Calves

    Pull throughs
    120x10
    120x10
    130x9

    High rep ab circuit

    -----------------------------------


    The box squat numbers were very strong for me. 305 would have definitely been a PR. Added some extra work to the routine as I was feeling great. Overall, very happy.


    I got a very strong pump in my legs this morning while skating to work. For now I'm going to chalk it up to the fact I haven't ridden in 2 weeks, but it has been noted.


    I'll try to find my body tape and get some measurements tonight.
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    Feeling really warm this morning, and hypo. I wonder if the 1-T is heightening the effects of my morning ALA and EGCG. Trying to stuff some food down.

    Took some measurements:
    right arm: 15"
    waist at navel (measured early morning): 38"
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    My head continued to feel pretty warm for most of the day. I'm really curious if anyone else is getting this thermo effect.


    Felt a little tired for the workout, but it went well enough.

    Weight seemed to have stabilized finally.

    weight: 192


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    Workout ME upper 11/25
    Bench
    Warmup
    185x3
    205x2
    185x3
    195x3
    205x2

    Chinups
    X9
    X7
    X6

    Incline db bench
    45x15
    45x10

    Seated rows SS faxepulls
    120x12. 50x11
    140x8. 60x10
    140x8. 60x10

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    30x12x10x8

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    I haven't done heavy bench in a very long time.
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    gained another pound, hope I'm not getting fat(ter)

    weight: 193 (+7)

    * I did realize recently that I switched creatine types near the beginning of this log. I probably am storing some water weight that can account for a few pounds, but certainly not 7 pounds, jesus.....

    general feedback
    -muscles have been very hard.
    -Mood has been great.
    -Libido is fairly high.
    -got 1 single, but large, boil on my back. Its almost gone now (thankfully).

    I took two rpm before the workout today as it was an early afternoon session due to Thanksgiving. It gave me a huge amount of energy, probably could have stayed in the gym for 2 hours. Felt really good and focused despite starting with HIITs.

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    Workout 11/27
    DE Lower body


    15 minutes of box jumps with ladder sprints (basically extreme HIITs)

    Reverse lunges, front leg raised high
    85 x 12
    95 x 8
    95 x 8

    step ups*
    135 x 12
    145 x 10

    good mornings
    135 x 10 x 8 x 8

    hanging leg raises x 10 x 8 x 8
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    *Threw in some step ups to the routine, as to target the heads of the quads. Trying to add in a little bit of body building work to the routine (I've been adding some target arm work as well).


    Feel like I earned some turkey


    btw, I want to apologize for not getting "before pics", but at least we have some measurements to go by. I have some older pictures that will come close to where I was at, that I'll use at the end with some "after" pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Feeling really warm this morning, and hypo. I wonder if the 1-T is heightening the effects of my morning ALA and EGCG. Trying to stuff some food down.

    Took some measurements:
    right arm: 15"
    waist at navel (measured early morning): 38"
    recall the time of using old 1T, i feel "gotta have" about 40mins to an hr after apply, and feel warm too

    did u use the old 1T before? does the new 1T irritate ur skin like the old one?
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    I'm basically a complete newbie to hormonal products.


    If your question had to do with a previous primordial performance product, nothing from them has ever bothered my skin (dermacrine/dermatherm/sustain).
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    great log, very intersted in this product, good work
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    Logs lookin good, keep it up!! really curious to see how this kicks in by week 3.
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    Day 10/11

    weight: 194 (+8)



    split my upper body "rep day" into two day splits, body building style.
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    workout day 10

    elliptical 30 minutes

    flat DB bench
    55x 15 x12 x12

    DIPS BW
    10 x 8 x 8

    cable crossovers
    50 x 10 x 10 x 10

    skull crushers
    75 x 8 x 8 x7

    cable pulldowns
    90 x 10 x 9 x8



    Day 11

    widegrip chinups BW
    x10 x 8 x 7 x 6

    standing bent rows
    195 x 8 x 8 x 7

    BB shrugs
    195 x 8 x 8 x 7

    BB curls
    95 x 5 x 4
    85 x 8

    incline seated DB curls
    30s x 8 x 8 x7

    cable curls
    50 x 10 x 8 x 8

    elliptical 15 minutes
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    libido seems back down to normal
    muscle hardness is way up
    I feel slightly leaner even though I'm up a lot in weight
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    Nice, thanks for the updates!!
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    Day 12, rest day


    starting to break out in places I don't normally have issues (forehead).

    right arm: 15 1/4" (+1/4") , measured this morning, I did do arms at the gym yesterday

    waist: 38", no change
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    Good updates. Do you feel the weight/size you've put on so far is mostley water/glycogen or increases in muscle mass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSMPOWERTSI View Post
    Good updates. Do you feel the weight/size you've put on so far is mostley water/glycogen or increases in muscle mass?
    Since I don't have experience with hormonal products, I'm not sure. I have to assume it is, since I know I'm not supposed to be seeing much gains until 3 weeks into the cycle. All I can say is my muscles feel full and hard, and the gym sessions have been very good. Strength gains are to be determined. Max effort squats in 1 week will be the real marker for strength gains, as I know exactly where I was before the cycle and had been working them consistently.
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    Awesome, lookin like a solid log. I agree, should easily start seeing some good things happening by week 3, if not a few days before, all depends on a person's body I suppose. Can't wait 'til week 3!!
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    I think you will start seeing major gains in size and appearance within the next few days. Its wise to not let it get you overenthused and start slapping on weight plates. Your gains may seem inconsistent at first, but then, they are there. I think this is going to be a great cycle for you and I appreciate the fact you are logging it.
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    Day 13, max effort lower body

    Weight: 195 (+9)

    libido: way up
    gym mood: awesome, feeling very good
    pump: on the split squats, it was starting to be every so slightly painfull. Fairly large pumps.

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    Workout 12/1 me lower

    Deadlifts, flat bar off floor
    225x5
    275x3
    295x2
    305x1
    315x1
    325x1 (PR)
    335x1 (PR)

    Split squats, rear leg raised 1 aerobic stepper
    95x8x8x7 SS 65x6

    Romanian DL
    195x8x7
    SS stepups 90x9

    Pull throughs
    120x9
    130x8x8

    Calves

    Hanging leg raises

    ----------------------------------


    I have not been able to do heavy Deadlifts in a long time (close to a year i think), as they changed the bars at my gym. The new bars have very little knurl on them, and I simply can't hold the bars at heavy weights. I FINALLY bought some wrist straps, and hit some heavy deads. They felt really great, wish I had bought those wrist straps sooner.

    So the first session back on heavy deads, and I put a hurtin on my old PR
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    whoa. up 9 pounds in 2 weeks? would you say their mostly lean gains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spres444 View Post
    whoa. up 9 pounds in 2 weeks? would you say their mostly lean gains?
    My waist is still the same size, my chest looks a lot better defined/cut, and my arms look bigger. I don't feel that I have put on any fat. Am I holding a ton of water? Probably, maybe I'll ask my wife if my face looks bloated (I don't feel bloated). Also, if you check my old logs, I've never weighed over 186 after a year + of training and supplements.


    For now I'll just report what the scale says, lets see what happens in the next two weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    My waist is still the same size, my chest looks a lot better defined/cut, and my arms look bigger. I don't feel that I have put on any fat. Am I holding a ton of water? Probably, but thats hard to tell, and I don't feel bloated.


    For now I'll just report what the scale says, lets see what happens in the next two weeks.

    well dam man if you can see it in the mirror, you know its workin! ose:

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    Sounds good! Any increased acne or fatigue?
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    sub and reps for running standalone!!

    When I hold extra water my waist size goes up.. Interesting yours is still the same
  

  
 

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