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      Just as the symptoms of menopause in women are attributed to a sharp drop in estrogen production, symptoms often seen in middle-aged men -- changes in body composition, energy, strength and sexual function -- are usually attributed to the less drastic decrease in testosterone production that typically occurs in the middle years. However, a study by Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) researchers finds that insufficient estrogen could be at least partially responsible for some of these symptoms.

      "This study establishes testosterone levels at which various physiological functions start to become impaired, which may help provide a rationale for determining which men should be treated with testosterone supplements," says Joel Finkelstein, MD, of the MGH Endocrine Unit, corresponding author of the study in the Sept. 12 New England Journal of Medicine. "But the biggest surprise was that some of the symptoms routinely attributed to testosterone deficiency are actually partially or almost exclusively caused by the decline in estrogens that is an inseparable result of lower testosterone levels."

      Traditionally a diagnosis of male hypogonadism -- a drop in reproductive hormone levels great enough to cause physical symptoms -- has been based on a measure of blood testosterone levels alone. Although such diagnoses have increased dramatically -- leading to a 500 percent increase in U.S. testosterone prescriptions between 1993 and 2000, the authors note -- there has been little understanding of the levels of testosterone needed to support particular functions.

      In addition to its direct action on some physical functions, a small portion of the testosterone that men make is normally converted into estrogen by an enzyme called aromatase. The higher the testosterone level in a normal man, the more is converted into estrogen. Since any drop in testosterone means that there is less to be converted into estrogen, men with low testosterone also have low estrogen levels, making it unclear which hormones support which functions. The MGH team set out to determine the levels of hormone deficiency at which symptoms begin to occur in men and whether those changes are attributable to decreased levels of testosterone, estrogens or both.

      The study enrolled two groups of men with normal reproductive function, ages 20 to 50, and all participants were first treated with a drug that suppresses normal production of all reproductive hormones. Men in the first group were randomly assigned to receive daily doses of testosterone gel at one of four dosage levels or a placebo gel for 16 weeks. Men in the second group received the same testosterone doses along with an aromatase inhibitor which markedly suppressed conversion of testosterone into estrogen. More than 150 men in each group completed the study, including monthly visits for blood tests and questionnaires about their overall health and sexual function. Body composition and leg strength were assessed at the beginning and end of the study period.

      Among participants in whom estrogen production was not blocked, increases in body fat were seen at what would be considered a mild level of testosterone deficiency. Decreases in lean body mass, the size of the thigh muscle and leg strength did not develop until testosterone levels became quite low. In terms of sexual function, sexual desire was reported to decrease progressively with each drop in testosterone levels, whereas erectile function was preserved until testosterone levels were extremely low.

      In participants also receiving the aromatase inhibitor, increases in body fat were seen at all testosterone dose levels, but suppressing estrogen production had no effect on lean mass, muscle size or leg strength. Adverse effects on sexual function were much more obvious when estrogen synthesis was suppressed regardless of participants' testosterone levels. Overall the results imply that testosterone levels regulate lean body mass, muscle size and strength, while estrogen levels regulate fat accumulation. Sexual function -- both desire and erectile function -- is regulated by both hormones.

      Finkelstein notes that this study artificially induced the kind of hormone deficiency usually seen in aging men to provide a controlled model. He and his colleagues hope to do follow-up studies in older men to confirm the accuracy of the model. Right now, decisions about whether an individual is a candidate for testosterone replacement should be made based on his symptoms and not just his testosterone level. The findings regarding estrogen's effects suggest that the forms of testosterone used for therapy should be capable of being aromatized into estrogen, he adds.

      "We also need to look into how testosterone replacement therapy would effect prostate health -- both prostate cancer and the prostate enlargement that causes unpleasant symptoms in many older men -- and heart disease," says Finkelstein, who is an associate professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School. "In light of what the Women's Health Initiative discovered about the unexpected effects of estrogen replacement therapy in women, we need a Men's Health Initiative to investigate those questions before large-scale testosterone replacement can be recommended."

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      Journal Reference:
      Joel S. Finkelstein, Hang Lee, Sherri-Ann M. Burnett-Bowie, J. Carl Pallais, Elaine W. Yu, Lawrence F. Borges, Brent F. Jones, Christopher V. Barry, Kendra E. Wulczyn, Bijoy J. Thomas, Benjamin Z. Leder. Gonadal Steroids and Body Composition, Strength, and Sexual Function in Men. New England Journal of Medicine, 2013; 369 (11): 1011 DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1206168

      Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0911184708.htm
      Comments 4 Comments
      1. lexmuscle's Avatar
        lexmuscle -
        Interesting, I know when I had low testosterone (between 300-400ng/dl) my joints would kill me in the morning. After being put on trt with Testim gel the joint pain went away as my test levels increased dramatically as did my e2 levels. Sex drive was awesome as well, but nearly 2 years later and I'm worse off than I was prior to trt. And I've been on injections for a year and a half.
      1. wastedwhiteboy2's Avatar
        wastedwhiteboy2 -
        These articles are hinting that testosterone is not helping you but estrogen is. Idiots will get the wrong idea and start taking birth control pills. More pussification of the nation.
      1. fueledpassion's Avatar
        fueledpassion -
        You want to stay on the high side of the estrogen range when on TRT. I'm testing regularly @ 1200ng/dl, and with that I like my e2 to be around 45. Some guys shoot for 15-25, but I have found that my nuts are fuller and my sex drive is better when my estrogen is a little high. In fact, I prefer to let it run as high as possible (considering how high my test levels are) without allowing myself to have gyno. The best case is exactly what old shool bodybuilders did - run Nolva w/ test.

        Nolva blocks the estrogen at the nipple, but otherwise lets it roam free in the body. This would result in a more watery, perhaps more fattening approach but a better feeling one too.
      1. lexmuscle's Avatar
        lexmuscle -
        Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
        You want to stay on the high side of the estrogen range when on TRT. I'm testing regularly @ 1200ng/dl, and with that I like my e2 to be around 45. Some guys shoot for 15-25, but I have found that my nuts are fuller and my sex drive is better when my estrogen is a little high. In fact, I prefer to let it run as high as possible (considering how high my test levels are) without allowing myself to have gyno. The best case is exactly what old shool bodybuilders did - run Nolva w/ test.

        Nolva blocks the estrogen at the nipple, but otherwise lets it roam free in the body. This would result in a more watery, perhaps more fattening approach but a better feeling one too.
        You're the first person on here to tell me that, and it makes sense. I'd rather be irritable with a little higher estrogen than have my joints ache and pop like I'm an 80 yr old.

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