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    Your ORAC value will be impressive once you swallow a capsule. I mean the strongest in world.

    The new theromogenic's ORAC value is off the sheezy! I have really impressed myself, and I'm unimpressive.




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    Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity?

    Why are you talking about my ORAC value? Are you planning on eating me? Should I run and hide somewhere?

    How many μmol/dag are we looking at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity?

    Why are you talking about my ORAC value? Are you planning on eating me? Should I run and hide somewhere?

    How many μmol/dag are we looking at?
    Unlike Mike Tyson, I will not eat your babies.

    Over 8,000!
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    That is an impressive number.

    Blueberries have approximately 2400 μmol/dag, in case someone's wondering how they compare.

    Here's a nice article I found on ORAC foods. Eat your veggies, folks.
    High-ORAC Foods May Slow Aging / February 8, 1999 / News from the USDA Agricultural Research Service
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Over 8,000!
    New Superfood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xodus View Post
    New Superfood?
    No Part of our new Thermogenic Plus.

    Oxidative stress plays a huge role in T4-T3 conversion and not to mention daily stress and weight management increase oxidative stress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    That is an impressive number.

    Blueberries have approximately 2400 μmol/dag, in case someone's wondering how they compare.

    Here's a nice article I found on ORAC foods. Eat your veggies, folks.
    High-ORAC Foods May Slow Aging / February 8, 1999 / News from the USDA Agricultural Research Service
    Yea it kicks blueberries in the arse and not to mention my complexion is glowing!..In a manly sort of way
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    No Part of our new Thermogenic Plus.

    Oxidative stress plays a huge role in T4-T3 conversion and not to mention daily stress and weight management increase oxidative stress.
    I was just over reading more about it in various threads.

    Interesting...
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    Let's also not forget that FR oxidation propagates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Let's also not forget that FR oxidation propagates.
    Meaning fat metabolism is an oxidative process?
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    Not what I was alluding to, but you are correct. Fat is oxidized for energy (which is why you breathe).

    When a free radical comes "rams" into another chemical in the body, it destroys said chemical (of function) and produces more free radicals. Free Radicals are like bunnies, they multiply Autooxidations and other free radical chain reactions have three stages:
    -activiation
    -propagation
    -termination
    Essentially, more and more and more free radicals are formed until something comes to stop it.

    In the case of an anti-oxidant, they work sorta like a bodyguard wearing a bullet proof vest. A free radical collides into it, and it's just like "Whatever, little unstably charged punk. Can't break this!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    ..and I'm unimpressive.
    Don't be so hard on yourself Jacob. I think your work is quite impressive!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionic View Post
    Don't be so hard on yourself Jacob. I think your work is quite impressive!.
    haha the reverse psychology worked.
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    everything USP makes is impressive.. further solidifying my theory that someone somehow made a pact with the devil
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Not what I was alluding to, but you are correct. Fat is oxidized for energy (which is why you breathe).

    When a free radical comes "rams" into another chemical in the body, it destroys said chemical (of function) and produces more free radicals. Free Radicals are like bunnies, they multiply Autooxidations and other free radical chain reactions have three stages:
    -activiation
    -propagation
    -termination
    Essentially, more and more and more free radicals are formed until something comes to stop it.

    In the case of an anti-oxidant, they work sorta like a bodyguard wearing a bullet proof vest. A free radical collides into it, and it's just like "Whatever, little unstably charged punk. Can't break this!"
    You forgot chain transfer - you azzhole!!!

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    The value for Aronia melanocarpa (chokeberry)has not been included in the chart, which according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aronia, has "one of the highest values yet recorded, of 16,100 micromoles of Trolox Eq. per 100 g (Wu et al. 2004)."

    Is it higher than this J?
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    awesome just made the handful of blueberries in my shake taste that much better
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzman21 View Post
    The value for Aronia melanocarpa (chokeberry)has not been included in the chart, which according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aronia, has "one of the highest values yet recorded, of 16,100 micromoles of Trolox Eq. per 100 g (Wu et al. 2004)."

    Is it higher than this J?
    No not higher than that but our compound serves 2 purposes.

    1. Increase metabolic rate
    2. Happens to have a high ORAC value

    Not bad!
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    Are you wanting us to guess the substance/plant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by methodice View Post
    Are you wanting us to guess the substance/plant?
    x2?
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    Oh here he is, Mr jazzman! What did USP give you for getting that cortisol inhibitor question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by methodice View Post
    Oh here he is, Mr jazzman! What did USP give you for getting that cortisol inhibitor question?
    He got a chocolate Bunny!
























    stuffed with P-Slin and AP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by methodice View Post
    Are you wanting us to guess the substance/plant?
    Sure why not, we can turn this into a fun guessing game.

    Winner gets 2 AP(or 1 plsin and 1 ap) and 2 thermogenic plus(not the name but you get it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    He got a chocolate Bunny!
























    stuffed with P-Slin and AP!
    and a PowerFull or a TNA (if you still have it). Just kidding. Hey thanks a lot J, you always lookin' out. Let me know when you want me to PM you my addy. Thanks a ton!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Sure why not, we can turn this into a fun guessing game.

    Winner gets 2 AP(or 1 plsin and 1 ap) and 2 thermogenic plus(not the name but you get it).
    OK, let see if I can make it 2 in a row!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzman21 View Post
    and a PowerFull or a TNA (if you still have it). Just kidding. Hey thanks a lot J, you always lookin' out. Let me know when you want me to PM you my addy. Thanks a ton!!!!!
    thought you did already! I'm out of TNA but a PowerFULL can be worked on..I will twist some dam arms to make it happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    thought you did already! I'm out of TNA but a PowerFULL can be worked on..I will twist some dam arms to make it happen!
    PM sent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Your ORAC value will be impressive once you swallow a capsule.
    ...
    Really, because ORAC makes no consideration for oral bioavailability. So it may have a nice value in vitro but it won't necessarily translate in vivo. I really hate how this was pushed as the de facto standard for anti-oxidants when it has such glaring flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by methodice View Post
    Are you wanting us to guess the substance/plant?
    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Your ORAC value will be impressive once you swallow a capsule. I mean the strongest in world.

    The new theromogenic's ORAC value is off the sheezy! I have really impressed myself, and I'm unimpressive.



    I think I got it!

    J you said "Your ORAC value will be impressive once you swallow a capsule. I mean the strongest in world."


    *ORAC stands for Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC) and it is a method of measuring antioxidant capacities of different foods.[1][2] It was developed by the scientists at the National Institute of Aging in the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Baltimore, Maryland, but it does not mean that this method is approved by NIH. Recently, US Department of Agriculture USDA listed a database of the ORAC value in its home page (www.usda.gov) without evaluation. A wide variety of foods have been tested using this methodology, with certain berries and legumes rated very highly[3]. Correlation between the high antioxidant capacity of fruits and vegetables, and the positive impact of diets high in fruits and vegetables, is believed to play an important role in the Free-radical theory of aging.

    *We need to figure out what are capsules made of. The most commonly used substance in capsules is "Gelatin". Most capsules are made from gelatin. Gelatin is widely used in many food products such as puddings, desserts, marshmallows, chewable candies, glazes, whipped toppings, and dips. One popular consumer product is Jell-OŽ brand gelatin (Jell-OŽ is a registered trademark of Kraft Foods, Inc.). In food applications, gelatin's ability to gel, thicken, stabilize, and aerate make it a highly desirable, nutritive, fat-free component. Gelatin also finds its way into many households in the form of cosmetics and toiletries, which utilize gelatin for it's hypoallergenic and hydrating properties.

    Gelatin itself is a mixture of water-soluble proteins derived primarily from collagen, which is the main naturally-occurring protein constituent of connective tissue. Gelatin is obtained from collagen by exposing animal skins and bones to a controlled extraction process. Gelatin comes in various types. Herb capsules are made from pharmaceutical grade gelatin that has met the stringent requirements of the United States Pharmacopoeia (USP) and other international organizations that set standards for products that are used in medicines.

    *Since you can only find the "ORAC value" in food(s), more specifically in fruits and vegetables, then I had to find the closest gelatin/collagen based food product. And as far as I know that would be some good ol' "JELL-O". But of course Jello isn't a fruit or veggie so I went to various websites and looked under "prune/raisins" since that is the closest fruit/veggie in my opinion, that has a gel-like substance similar to gelatin and it is around 3-5 thousand per 100 grams on the ORAC value scale.

    The gelatin in Jell-O is what lets you transform it into all sorts of different shapes. What exactly is gelatin? Gelatin is just a processed version of a structural protein called collagen that is found in many animals, including humans. Collagen actually makes up almost a third of all the protein in the human body. It is a big, fibrous molecule that makes skin, bones, and tendons both strong and somewhat elastic. As you get older, your body makes less collagen, and individual collagen fibers become crosslinked with each other. You might experience this as stiff joints (from less flexible tendons) or wrinkles (from loss of skin elasticity).

    The gelatin you eat in Jell-O comes from the collagen in cow or pig bones, hooves, and connective tissues. To make gelatin, manufacturers grind up these various parts and pre-treat them with either a strong acid or a strong base to break down cellular structures and release proteins like collagen. After pre-treatment, the resulting mixture is boiled. During this process, the large collagen protein ends up being partially broken down, and the resulting product is called gelatin. The gelatin is easily extracted because it forms a layer on the surface of the boiling mixture.**

    So i'm going to say that the substance is gelatin and/or collegan.

    If not right am I at least close J? Goodnight, i'm pooped!

    P.S. There are two more substance(s) that a lot of capsules are made from also and that is Magnesium Stearate and Cellulose. Just thought I'd throw those 2 in also! Now Goodnight 4-reelz!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Sure why not, we can turn this into a fun guessing game.

    Winner gets 2 AP(or 1 plsin and 1 ap) and 2 thermogenic plus(not the name but you get it).
    Sri Lankan Tamil Dingleberry....

    OR

    North Tibetan Tiger Penis (the plant, perverts)
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    Pomegranate or

    Mangosteen OR Goji Berry
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    Quote Originally Posted by methodice View Post
    Pomegranate or

    Mangosteen OR Goji Berry
    Oh, you're playing for real?

    Acai berry

    in addition to:

    Sri Lankan Tamil Dingleberry....

    OR

    North Tibetan Tiger Penis (the plant, perverts)
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    My updated understanding: Flavanone , 2′-hydroxyflavanone or a coffee extract
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    Hemp and Cocoa
    Not bad, but that's nothing compared to the whopping 955 ORAC Units found in each gram of raw unsprayed cacao powder!
    Damn, late to this thread. Cacao and Acai were my two guesses.
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    Schinus molle, the fruit from the Brazillian Pepper Tree!

    http://www.bio.puc.cl/caseb/pdf/prog...RateFoxCBP.pdf

    Interplay between metabolic rate and diet quality in the South
    American fox, Pseudalopex culpaeus
    Sergio I. Silva*, Fabian M. Jaksic, Francisco Bozinovic
    Center for Advanced Studies in Ecology and Biodiversity and Departamento de Ecolog´ıa, Pontificia Universidad Cato´lica de Chile,
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    Received 14 March 2003; received in revised form 22 August 2003; accepted 3 September 2003
    Abstract
    We studied the metabolic costs associated with the ingestion of peppertree fruits (Schinus molle) in the culpeo fox,
    Pseudalopex culpaeus, the second largest canid in South America. Throughout its range of distribution, this fox feeds
    on rodents and other small vertebrates, and also on peppertree fruits, which represent 98% of total fruits consumed in
    semiarid Chile. Peppertree contains a high diversity of phytochemicals. Foxes feeding on diets containing rats and
    peppertree fruits (mixed diets) exhibited a 98.9% increase in basal rate of metabolism when compared to rat-acclimated
    foxes. Thus, acute ingestion of chemically defended fruits has an energetic cost for the fox, reflected in higher values
    of basal metabolism. Increased metabolic rates may be associated with increased protein synthesis for detoxification and
    for tissue repair, including the production of biotransformation enzymes.
     2003 Elsevier Science Inc. All rights reserved.
    Keywords: Basal metabolic rate; Chemically defended fruit; Food quality; Mixed diet; Canid; Peppertree; Schinus molle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ersatz View Post
    Really, because ORAC makes no consideration for oral bioavailability. So it may have a nice value in vitro but it won't necessarily translate in vivo. I really hate how this was pushed as the de facto standard for anti-oxidants when it has such glaring flaws.
    Oral biavailability is not an issus in this case.

    No winners yet.
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    chlorogenic acid, cynarin A and narirutin
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    cranberry extract? (ORAC right around 8,000)
  

  
 

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