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"WHY DO I WANT 200%, 500%, 1,000% OR MORE IN MY MULTI?"
DISCOVER WHY TAKING A “HIGH-POTENCY” MULTI-VITAMIN MAY BE WASTEFUL, COUNTER-EFFECTIVE & POTENTIALLY UNHEALTHY…AND…WHY IT MAY ALSO BE WORKING AGAINST YOU IN THE GYM…


Dear Barbell Club Member,

It’s well established that you should always try to get your nutrients – including vitamins & minerals – from whole foods…

However, for most, that simply isn’t realistic 100% of the time…

You likely do what many smart fitness & health conscious folks do – Try your best to eat right and take a daily multi-vitamin/mineral supplement as “insurance” to fill in any possible gaps…

But, have you ever really thought about how you choose your multi?

  1. The cheapest because it’s “better than nothing”?
  2. The one with “high potency? (Emerging research is now telling us this may NOT be the proper long-term strategy, read on…)
  3. The best “profile”?
  4. The multi the online shopping cart tells you to use when you’re checking out?
  5. All of the above
  6. Whatever your multi priorities are, what you’re about to read may help your future decisions…
VITAMER PRO™
We had trouble finding a multi on the market that we wanted to use…so, we developed two!

They're called Vitamer PRO™ and Vitamer PRO Hers. The formulas are based upon countless hours of R & D and review of emerging research…

When you sit back and think about it, multi’s are the most consumed supplement, yet, quite often, the least scrutinized…

It’s time for a deep dive into the supplement you take every day…

THE EVOLUTION OF MULTI-VITAMIN/MINERAL FORMULATIONS
Up until this point, the majority of Multi-Vitamin/Mineral Formulations touted an insanely high amount of specific ingredients - sometimes in the 1,000’s % of RDA…

Is More Even Better?

While these large numbers certainly sound good (“If some is good, more must be better – right?”), science is starting to tell us that may be wrong when it comes to micro-nutrients such as vitamins and minerals and potentially single vitamers…

It’s incorrect to think taking any multi – especially one containing obscenely high amounts of individual vitamins - can replace a good diet consisting of a variety of fruits and vegetables…

No multi can do that…

The question you need to ask yourself is…

Does My Multi Complement My Diet Without Creating Problems?

Vitamer PRO™ was formulated to support you during times…

When your nutrient intake from food is on the lower end - It can help you get closer to or within acceptable ranges of daily requirements for most of the nutrients it contains.
Of higher nutrient intake from food - It can help round out your micro-nutrient intake without putting you at super high intake levels that may cause problems.
In other words – the goal of Vitamer PRO™ is to adjust to your lifestyle as multi's were originally intended to do!

While you may have a daily routine, certainly your life changes from week to week, month to month and year to year…

You eat more of certain foods at different times and also face additional challenges (often without warning)…

Your body is always trying to adapt so shouldn’t your multi help support your lifestyle instead of just throwing gasoline on the fire, so to speak, by providing a heaping amount of a few select vitamins and/or minerals?

QUANTIFIED VITAMERS - TRULY THE GAME CHANGER
OK, so it’s very clear by now we feel, based on the research we reviewed, that a proper multi should have amounts of various vitamins and minerals that allow you to stay within an acceptable range of intake without insanely high amounts of any one particular vitamin or mineral…

Now, on to phase 2…

This is where Vitamer Pro™ REALLY separates itself with great vitamin sources and specific Quantified Vitamers…


Vitamin & Vitamers

The word vitamin is often confused as being a particular molecule, but it is in fact a description of activity…

Vitamers are the molecules which have that activity…


In other words, vitamers have the vitamin activity or function…

Gamma-/Delta-/Alpha-Tocopherols
In recent times d-alpha-tocopherol (notice “d”, no “dl” as the “dl” is nowhere near as common as it once was) seems to be the most widely used form of Vitamin E in multis…

However, this approach is flawed as just using one vitamer is not how they are consumed in foods and may be creating an imbalance between the vitamers (This is starting to become a theme, isn’t it?)…

For example, d-alpha-tocopherol has been shown to deplete gamma-tocopherol in plasma and tissues with high consumption (1,2)…

This is yet another example where consuming one vitamer in excessive quantities may end up doing more harm than good…
Instead, one should try to consume a mixture of tocopherols, as close as possible to a mixture found in foods…

This would include consumption of not only alpha and gamma-tocopherol, but beta-* and delta-tocopherol as well…

For example, a 100 g serving of almonds can contain around 24.3 to 25.87 mg of alpha-tocopherol, < 0.5 mg of beta-tocopherol, 0.89 to 0.98 mg of gamma-tocopherol and < 0.5 mg of delta-tocopherol (3,4).

Mega-dosing with these vitamers is also a bad choice, as is the case with any vitamin or mineral…

Instead, we must attempt to truly supplement the diet, not replace or exceed realistic intake levels…

For example, even those products that contain 200 IU of alpha-tocopherol (equivalent to 134 mg alpha-tocopherol) would require one to consume around three quarters to over 1 lb. of even some of the richest sources of the vitamin, including almonds (4)…

I don’t know anyone who eats a pound of almonds a day, do you?
Clearly, even when those people in the U.S. who are in the 90th percentile for vitamin E consumption from food sources are only consuming around 10-11 mg (5,6), supplementing with large doses of vitamin E seems excessive …

The goal should be to reach an adequate level, not consume excessive quantities that may provide no greater benefit and may actually be harmful…

Vitamer PRO™ is the only multi we know of that lists how much Gamma-, Delta- and Alpha-Tocopherols it contains!

Alpha-/Beta-Carotene/Lutein/Zeaxanthin/Lycopene
It’s likely that you’ve heard beta-carotene being praised, such as early observational data showing an association between high beta-carotene levels and good health, as well as an association between low beta-carotene levels and poor health (7)…

It was because of this observation that some speculated that supplementing with beta-carotene could produce positive effects upon health…

Since that early observational data, interventional studies using mega-doses of beta-carotene either failed to show a positive benefit or, in some instances, showed detrimental effects upon health which some scientists have indicated may be a result of the excessively high doses used in such studies (7)…

While such results are not definitive, we again believe it’s best to err on the side of caution and avoid using excessively high amounts of beta-carotene...

Yet, another example of more NOT necessarily being better…
Aside from the notion that high carotenoid (and other micronutrients) plasma levels may simply be a marker of good health (e.g., indicative of high consumption of fruits and vegetables and perhaps associated with other positive lifestyle factors), rather than the cause of it, some have also hypothesized that this discrepancy may be due to the high doses of beta-carotene used, possibly causing suppression of other carotenoid levels in tissues (7,8)…

Clearly, it doesn't appear to be optimal for your daily multi to contain obscenely high amounts…

Luckily, Vitamer PRO™ has you covered…
Eating foods like fruits and vegetables provides carotenoids in a mixed fashion, with several, not simply one such as beta-carotene (9,10)…

While nothing will replace the consumption of fruits and vegetables, a multi-vitamin should attempt to be representative of what is found in healthful foods…

For example, a carrot contains beta-carotene, alpha-carotene and lutein (9)…

When it comes to a multi-vitamin/mineral formula, it’s just as important to include supplemental amounts that are helpful for those that may not eat the best diet, yet this formula shouldn’t contain excessive quantities which could be harmful…

Vitamer PRO™ includes beta and alpha carotene as well as lutein, zeaxanthin and lycopene!
A Good Multi Should Be Graded On What It Has, But Also On What It Doesn’t Have
Chromium

Vitamer PRO™ chooses to exclude chromium in the formulation as the available data indicate that net chromium balance is maintained with exercise, because while an increase chromium excretion is seen, a compensatory increase in absorption also occurs (11)…

In addition, some scientists have expressed concern that the form of chromium used in supplements may lead to accumulation in the body, while others have noted that it may possess potential genotoxic effects (12-14)…

Furthermore, some scientists have called into question the entire notion that chromium is an essential trace element for humans, arguing that such a notion is based upon flawed animal data (15-18)…

Iron

Vitamer PRO™ does not include iron in its men’s formulation as the average intake for individuals in the U.S. generally exceeds the recommended intake level for men while even those in the lower percentiles may still meet requirements or consume close to or slightly less than the recommended intake level depending upon the survey analyzed (5,6)…

Furthermore, the lack of evidence showing a need for iron supplementation in resistance training men and the potential for increased risk of certain diseases with excessive iron intake, led us to conclude that supplemental iron wasn’t a proper addition to a men’s multivitamin formula (19-24)…

While exercise training is known to reduce serum ferritin (blood iron) levels in men with normal levels, levels generally still remain in the normal range (19)…

In addition, a recent study found that in recreationally active men, a 37 mg dose of elemental iron led to greater oxidative stress from exercise-induced muscle damage (25)…

Iron & Women

With respect to women who menstruate regularly and thus lose blood regularly, they may benefit from a reasonable amount of iron included in a multivitamin/mineral supplement, especially when considering their higher iron requirements compared to men (24)…

While a diet rich in iron is always preferable to supplementation, some may not consume sufficient quantities…

This is why iron is included in Vitamer PRO™ for Women…

It’s important to note that because different variables can alter iron status, women using any iron-containing supplement should be monitored regularly by their physician to determine the adequacy of iron intake (21,24,26,27)…

Why Doesn’t Vitamer PRO™ Contain Calcium?
While some individuals could use additional calcium in their diet, Vitamer PRO™ doesn’t include supplemental calcium (with the exception of very small amounts of calcium salt for some vitamins in the formula) as there has recently been some controversy in the scientific community as to whether or not supplemental calcium is a proper choice for everyone…

Therefore, until this matter is cleared up, individuals not currently meeting the RDA for calcium should discuss with their physician…

“I’m An Athlete - I Workout A Lot So I Want Very High Amounts Of Vitamins To Replace What I Sweat Out!”
While it’s true that some vitamin and mineral losses can occur in the sweat, these amounts are often rather small and do not justify using mega-doses of vitamins and minerals…

Vitamin B6 makes for an excellent example, as many multi-vitamin products on the market have very large quantities of this vitamin…

Yet, even in athletes who have run a marathon only lost an average of approximately 1 mg! (28)

Thus, very little is needed to replace possible losses even from extremely exhaustive exercise and doesn’t warrant mega-dosing…

Similar results have been shown for various elements including zinc, iron and copper, where sweat losses are typically only a small percentage of the RDA (29-31).

The research simply doesn’t support the need for athletes to consume extra vitamins & minerals if they’re on a well-balanced diet with sufficient calories (32)…

Large quantities of vitamins/minerals do not seem to impart any benefit with respect to exercise performance when compared with a normal intake (32)…

Furthermore, while not a universal finding (33), excessive intakes of some vitamins may actually reduce some of the adaptive effects of exercise, although some have characterized these effects as “minimal” (34)...

It appears that whether such supplementation, helps, hinders or does neither may depend upon many variables such as the type of training and the individual...

Nonetheless, the chronic consumption of a high-dose of some antioxidant vitamins (e.g., in a multivitamin) for all individuals without any other consideration is unwarranted...

Experts have generally recommended against such supplementation and have instead recommended the consumption of antioxidant rich foods (33,35)…

Top 5 Reasons Why Vitamer PRO™ Should Be Your Multi
1. Amounts Based On Estimated Intake Levels

The goal is to help support you to get in or closer to range for most nutrients (that it contains) if you’re low and not send you skyrocketing over range if you’re already there.
2. Quantified Vitamers

Gamma-/Delta-/Alpha-Tocopherols
Alpha-/Beta-Carotene
3. No Iron (for men), Chromium or Calcium

Vitamer PRO™ is good for what it doesn’t contain as well as for what it does contain.
4. Simple To Take - 3 capsules per day for men – 2 for women!

No horse pills or packs of pills!
5. No Haphazard Mega-Dosing

Yes, the research is in its early stages, but why take the risk?
OK, OK, THERE’S NO QUESTION - VITAMER PRO™ SOUNDS AWESOME – AND EXPENSIVE - HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?
As you’re certainly aware, you can buy a very cheap multi or you can buy a premium, higher-cost multi…

Heck, you can buy just about everything in between as well!

…Clearly, Vitamer PRO™ was not developed to be a cheap “throw-in” multi…

However, we wanted to develop the best possible multi we could without breaking the bank…

The product was developed with the following idea in mind…

“A Buck A Day”

We figured that you’d gladly pay $1 a day for a “smart” multi, especially after learning what the mega-dose “bull-in-a-china-shop” multi’s may be doing to your body…

Each bottle of Vitamer PRO™ is a 30-day supply…

It’s easy to take at just 3 capsules per day for men and 2 capsules per day for women…

No horse pills, no huge packs of pills, no nasty teeth-staining powders…



P.S. Seriously, ask “WHY such high amounts?” – The only science you’ll get is bro-science…

P.P.S. If you take even one more serving of your current “High Potency” multi then you clearly haven’t read a single word of this letter!

P.P.P.S. Why no MK-4 you ask? Well, for several reasons…

First, vitamin K1, the vitamer found in plants, is less likely to be consumed in the diet if one isn’t consuming a diet which has sufficient intake of vegetables. MK-4, on the other hand is commonly found in various foods, and even in diets of those who don’t consume a proper diet…

For example, MK-4 is found at concentrations of 10.6 mcg per 100 g of chicken nuggets. That's right, chicken nuggets...

It’s also found in cheddar cheese and whole fried eggs at 10.2 and 9 mcg/100 grams, respectively. Barbecued chicken contains around 22.1 mcg/100 grams (36).

Second, There’s No Relevant Data Regarding Testosterone Production

Some manufacturers have begun using MK-4 as a source of vitamin K, claiming it may help boost testosterone levels in men based upon a study in rats…

The problem is that the amount used in the study would likely require very high milligram quantities (37)…

No multivitamin product on the market would likely contain sufficient quantities for this to be feasible in humans. In addition, the study required in vitro concentrations in the high micromolar range, whereas human bioavailability studies failed to show any detectable level of MK-4 after a 420 mcg serving was consumed (38).

Why No Molybdenum?

Available data indicate that most individuals in the United States already consume more than enough molybdenum than is required for essential functions, making supplementation unnecessary (39).

Why no Boron?

We do not include boron because as noted by the Institute of Medicine, it is not considered an essential nutrient as there “has yet to establish a clear biological function for boron in humans.” (40).

*While the raw material used for the mixed tocopherols in the formula should contain beta-tocopherol, the amount in Vitamer PRO would likely be extremely small and thus it is not quantified.
 
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Great write up! I don't think I have ever seen this much thought put in to a multivitamin.

Very interesting read.
 
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Very informative. I have always had curiosities as to the obscene amounts of beta-carotene in multis. I eat a boatload of carrots throughout the week and am surprised I don’t have jaundice from adding in a multi.
 
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Very informative. I have always had curiosities as to the obscene amounts of beta-carotene in multis. I eat a boatload of carrots throughout the week and am surprised I don’t have jaundice from adding in a multi.
Why jaundice does too much beta carotene mess with liver or something?? Not trolling here, im just in to learn something new. And because I have previous liver damage.
 
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Why jaundice does too much beta carotene mess with liver or something?? Not trolling here, im just in to learn something new. And because I have previous liver damage.
I was more or less making a joke. An over abundance of beta carotene can create a yellow-orangish hue to skin pigment. It is often confused with jaundice. I’m not sure as far as beta carotene and liver values though.
 
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I was more or less making a joke. An over abundance of beta carotene can create a yellow-orangish hue to skin pigment. It is often confused with jaundice. I’m not sure as far as beta carotene and liver values though.
Oh OK, thanks for the input. When u said jaundice my mind went straight to liver ya know.
 
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Wow! Not sure I've seen any other company put this much thought and effort into a multi before. It definitely looks like you guys hooked it up with this one though!

Like stated above, who doesn't need a 6 month supply of vitamins!? ;)
 
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Really learned a lot about dosages, first time I read it I was just impressed by the openness of the write up. Even though it was obviously crafted with sales in mind, it was crazy educational as well. Yeah who doesn’t need a six month supply
 
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Good read. As requested here are my comments and questions.

-What lead to the decision in using gelatin vs vegetable capsules? I know some individuals that will stay away from gelatin capsules.

-I liked the brief explanation of vitamin vs vitamere.
-Just being picky.. but in the event that someone unaware of related acronyms .. spell out the full word followed by the acronym: Research & Development (R&D), Rafael dos Anjos (RDA) ... joking

Thanks again for sharing the information and for providing this opportunity.
 
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Awesome write up! Honestly i had never thought about why these was such large amounts of certain thing in multis and also had never put much thought into why certain things were even in them. Thanks for the info. I would really like to have a 6 month supply of multivitamin as well lol. Awesome opportunity here
 
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Interesting read, especially about the beta-carotine and the vitamin-e sources. I've never heard of any of the benefits of alpha-carotine, and the references seem comprehensive, but they're all in a scramble...
 
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Learnt a lot from this write up great job! Am curious about why you guys didn’t add iron as a “multi” as someone who has a iron deffincey I can defiantly tell when I lift whether or not my levels are low it defiantly makes my lift seem harder considering iron carries oxygen to your red blood Chesla to oxygenate your body. If I’m wrong someone please correct me for my better undaerstanding. Besides that who in the **** wouldn’t wnjoy a 6 month supply if he good ****lol
 
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Awesome write up! Honestly i had never thought about why these was such large amounts of certain thing in multis and also had never put much thought into why certain things were even in them. Thanks for the info. I would really like to have a 6 month supply of multivitamin as well lol. Awesome opportunity here
That was what a lot of our initial research showed! Thanks for the reply.
 
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I have been using omeprazole for a number of years and recently heard that it interferes with vitamin b12. the dose of b12 in vitamerpro looks relatively small, is it enough for someone on a proton pump inhibiter drug or would I have to supplement with additional vitamin b12?
 
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Great post.
I wanted to share a surprising info about vitamin A supplementation in smokers. A study showed that prolonged supplementation of beta-carotene in smokers was associated with increased lung cancer risk.
 
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The input on the Alpha Carotene is definitely interesting to me. My current diet is insane from the amount of veggies ive added but it seems to go a bit farther just that. Honestly eating at 4600 calories and im just maintaining 220lbs. My diets pretty locked in but the idea that this could help round out meals is certainly astounding IMO. Ive made other notes that I want to dive into as well.
 

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I have been using omeprazole for a number of years and recently heard that it interferes with vitamin b12. the dose of b12 in vitamerpro looks relatively small, is it enough for someone on a proton pump inhibiter drug or would I have to supplement with additional vitamin b12?
I think you need additional B12. This seems to be dosed in needed doses for most people so offcourse some need to take more of some. I think not metabolizing B12 enough is not an uncommon problem but not sure if 10000% of some multies is really needed for it.
 
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Well it has been over a week since I got my Multi-Vitamin - women's version in the mail. Here is my review:

From first glance the bottle and look of the pill container is sleek and conservative. Very professional looking and easily readable. The size of pills are good and we can are easy to swallow. I take 2 pills(women) with dinner and it is convenient. It is a little hard to review a multi since you don’t really feel it working essentially.
The combination of ingredients seem worthwhile though and the extracts are most beneficial. They have been easy on my stomach and with my GI issues lately I'm glad. The Vitamin B12 used is the most natural formed (methyl cobalamin) which makes it superior to many other multi-vitamins on the market. You can tell they really took the time also in their profile for the vitamin as calcium is not included which has been known to interfere with Iron absorption.
Additionally have Vitamin E in there vitamin profile is a 10 out of 10 for me because they included alpha, beta delta, and gamma. Most over-the-counter multivitamins contain only alpha-tocopherol, which is just one type of vitamin E. There are several studies that show that all forms of vitamin E are important for overall health. I also happy to see magnesium included as I also suffer from leg/muscle cramps once in a while. As other people have noted I do not see a change in my pee either :)
 
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Well it has been over a week since I got my Multi-Vitamin - women's version in the mail. Here is my review:

From first glance the bottle and look of the pill container is sleek and conservative. Very professional looking and easily readable. The size of pills are good and we can are easy to swallow. I take 2 pills(women) with dinner and it is convenient. It is a little hard to review a multi since you don’t really feel it working essentially.
The combination of ingredients seem worthwhile though and the extracts are most beneficial. They have been easy on my stomach and with my GI issues lately I'm glad. The Vitamin B12 used is the most natural formed (methyl cobalamin) which makes it superior to many other multi-vitamins on the market. You can tell they really took the time also in their profile for the vitamin as calcium is not included which has been known to interfere with Iron absorption.
Additionally have Vitamin E in there vitamin profile is a 10 out of 10 for me because they included alpha, beta delta, and gamma. Most over-the-counter multivitamins contain only alpha-tocopherol, which is just one type of vitamin E. There are several studies that show that all forms of vitamin E are important for overall health. I also happy to see magnesium included as I also suffer from leg/muscle cramps once in a while. As other people have noted I do not see a change in my pee either :)
Great review, thank you!
 

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I have been using omeprazole for a number of years and recently heard that it interferes with vitamin b12. the dose of b12 in vitamerpro looks relatively small, is it enough for someone on a proton pump inhibiter drug or would I have to supplement with additional vitamin b12?
question for your Doctor, it wasn't formulated for that reason...
 

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Learnt a lot from this write up great job! Am curious about why you guys didn’t add iron as a “multi” as someone who has a iron deffincey I can defiantly tell when I lift whether or not my levels are low it defiantly makes my lift seem harder considering iron carries oxygen to your red blood Chesla to oxygenate your body. If I’m wrong someone please correct me for my better undaerstanding. Besides that who in the **** wouldn’t wnjoy a 6 month supply if he good ****lol
Most Men are not deficient in Iron and the requirement is lower. If you are deficient it probably makes more sense to have your doctor recommend an amount and supplement that independently of a Multi formula.

VitamerPRO Hers was formulated with Iron. Women have an obvious need for it and tend to not eat a lot of red meat.
 
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Ahhhhh ok I see thanks for clarifying I guess I’m just weird haha
 
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this may be a total noob question, but why not just use a total marigold extract? If you're only extracting the lutein, zeaxanthin, and lycopene, then you're leaving out several useful compounds such as quercetin, kaempferol,and carvacrol name a few.
 
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Nice profile and regardless of diet a multi is always beneficial.
 

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this may be a total noob question, but why not just use a total marigold extract? If you're only extracting the lutein, zeaxanthin, and lycopene, then you're leaving out several useful compounds such as quercetin, kaempferol,and carvacrol name a few.
There standardized extract. can't standardize for everything. And those other compounds are not really needed daily.
 

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I think you need additional B12. This seems to be dosed in needed doses for most people so offcourse some need to take more of some. I think not metabolizing B12 enough is not an uncommon problem but not sure if 10000% of some multies is really needed for it.
been supplementing with 5000mcg b-12...energy has definitely increased!!!
 

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Love the research and the citation. As you put before, most answers you get form other companies are bro science answers. Glad to see there is no calcium in the vitamin. Looks like a great quality product and can’t wait to try it. Always been worried about a high vitamin A and beta carotene intake. I take a multi that is high potency and is obviously more than I need. It’d be nice to try this and see how I feel.
 
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Love the research and the citation. As you put before, most answers you get form other companies are bro science answers. Glad to see there is no calcium in the vitamin. Looks like a great quality product and can’t wait to try it. Always been worried about a high vitamin A and beta carotene intake. I take a multi that is high potency and is obviously more than I need. It’d be nice to try this and see how I feel.
Thanks for the reply!
 
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Love reading the USPlabs write ups. This is very good and well thought out! Would be awesome to get 6 months of this
 
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Very informative write-up. Enjoyed reading through it. Nice to see a supplement fit a different “niche” as far as what vitamins are used and not another parroted label product.
 

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Writing from the UK. Would love to try this over here! There's unfortunately not a strong range of multivitamins available in the current UK supplement market. The last I used was anavite but the ingredients were not as focused as vitamerpro's seem to be.
 

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Additionally have Vitamin E in there vitamin profile is a 10 out of 10 for me because they included alpha, beta delta, and gamma. Most over-the-counter multivitamins contain only alpha-tocopherol, which is just one type of vitamin E. There are several studies that show that all forms of vitamin E are important for overall health.
YES, yes,yes, people get it!
 

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The manufacturers of of this supplement have come up with a product that works on prevention of weight gain, while the body prepares to use the already stored fat. Now, people that are strictly using reduction of calories or avoiding carbs, often feel tired with lack of energy while dieting.


They are stored in other parts of the body in the form of adipose tissues. They typically include buttocks, belly and many other areas of the body including the face.Once your body starts to burn the stored fats, these seemingly almost impossible areas on the body will actually start to be reduced.

The Rapid Tone weight loss supplement will make the once stubborn fat now available for energy production. With that your appetite will also be controlled.
 
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What separated this product to me is the quality of the nutrients being ingested. Much more bio available and therefore less is needed. As mentioned great vit e spectrum in the product. Most of us get used to pissing away money and don't realize it with these overdosed multis that our bodies can't even correctly assimilate. Instead we pee bright green and yellow lol. This is a very sensible and thought out product. Nothing else like it, and great attention to detail. I can't wait to try this and see if it makes a difference.
 

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What separated this product to me is the quality of the nutrients being ingested. Much more bio available and therefore less is needed. As mentioned great vit e spectrum in the product. Most of us get used to pissing away money and don't realize it with these overdosed multis that our bodies can't even correctly assimilate. Instead we pee bright green and yellow lol. This is a very sensible and thought out product. Nothing else like it, and great attention to detail. I can't wait to try this and see if it makes a difference.
Thank you sir.

This was the hardest product USPlabs has ever formulated. I think we brush off this category as "its just a multi vitamin" but if you think about it, Micro nutrients is the foundation of health.

Also as best as we could and when the research told us, we used extracted vitamins and vitamers like Vitamin E. You called it a detail and it sure is a detail to quantify all the Vitamin E forms. I have yet to see a company quantify them. You'll see mixed tocopherols which could be anything...I understand why...it is really hard to do and VERY expensive to test for.

the majority of Multi vitamins use amounts that assume the consumer doesn't eat veggies, fruits, legumes, and whole grains. they must think we all just eat chicken and oat meal....The fact of the matter. there is not much cost difference between 10,000iu and 20,000iu vitamin a or 1mg or 10mgs of niacin. its pennies, I think companies understand that. If we put more, we charge more but its not really costing us more and by the way, we are using a very cheap form.

the Vitamin E in VitamerPro is extracted that in itself makes more expensive raw material and same goes for the Vitamin A forms, etc....

If you're judging your multi by RDA % and not the form, it's a bit backwards in thought.
 

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