Mesomorphģ Is Here To Stay! SCARY Senegalia GIVEAWAY!

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  1. Review coming soon!
    Current Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/291581-officially-chasing-abs.html#post5714196


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jayo84 View Post
    I guess i'll post initial thoughts here.

    I also received the Watermelon flavor



    I was very eager to get started with this!

    I now have 4 workouts in and have a pretty good idea of it's effectiveness.

    Smell, Taste Mix 9/10 = All good!! I am NOT a huge watermelon fan, as a matter of fact I would say that when I had jolly ranchers, the watermelon candies would be the only ones left. I usually avoid this flavor, however I am pleasantly surprised by this one! It's on the sour side. It mixes very well and goes down quite nice. You get a little itchy in the face so you know it's doing something!
    Time to kick in 9/10= This kicks in pretty average for me around 20 minutes.
    Energy 7/10= unfortunately Mesomorph didn't do much at a level scoop, and when going with the recommended rounded scoop it only improves a little better. I can still catch myself yawning when running this. It does seem to keep me pretty level though.
    Pumps 7.5/10 Average at best. Again nothing crazy here. After 1.5 hours of pounding chest and tris' I had some pumps but nothing crazy
    Crash 7/10 I do feel a little bit of a crash on this. Nothing crazy, just get pretty run down after 3 hours or so.
    Focus 8/10 I feel like I have more confidence when lifting heavier weights. I also feel slightly in a better mood than usual.

    Worthy note It does seem like strength and endurance are increased when running this, but I would like a couple more workouts to decide on this.

    Overall 7.5/10 I had a huge expectation for this that sadly hasn't been delivered. Perhaps my tolerance is worse than I thought. I have ran 3 workouts on an empty stomach and 1 was not. The effects are certainly a stronger on empty but not by much.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Okay so this looks like the place to post up the review for the product.

    I am going to give my own rating scale because far too often I see people trying to be nice and give high numbers to a lot of things. They view a rating of 5 as a negative. Well lets be honest here a 5 is the average. Not a negative rating and at this point in the game the average Pre-Workout is actually pretty damn effective in most cases.

    Rating on a scale from 1-10 with 5 being the standard / average of similar products.
    1.100% suckville!
    2. I am not even sure if it did anything...
    3. Maybe it did something but I can't believe people pay for this
    4. I noticed it working but was not satifsfied
    5. Average - this is the average out of all similar products I have sampled... a 5 is perfectly acceptable in any category
    6. Slightly better than average but not impressive.
    7. Impressed with effects
    8. Very Impressed but not WOW'd
    9. This crap is the bomb!!! AKA WOW'd
    10. I can't really imagine it getting better than this.

    ANYTHING ABOVE A 5 IS A POSITIVE REVIEW, and a 5 means I found it to average effect among other pre workouts.


    I used the DMAA version, and then used the Senegalia version the following day to have a better comparison. I have to say that most of the characteristics of this version of Mesomorph are identical to the previous version with DMAA. Where I noticed a difference was in the energy and focus provided. I will go into the specifics of each area I focus on with a pre workout below.

    Taste - 8.5 - I had the watermelon flavor as well and really enjoyed it. I can't imagine a pre workout ever getting a 10 in taste and to be honest an 8.5 is a pretty damn high rating here.

    Mixability - 6 - this one is one I see mentioned all the time and although I don't think it is that important I am rating it here for others. I shake all of my pre workouts for about 5 seconds if that. When finished there are still some course and gritty bits on the bottom of the cup I have to swill the liquid around in the bottom to get them floating so I can shoot them down. It tastes like they may be flavor crystals, or something. Either way the bits are bigger and more than a lot of other Pre-workouts so I give it a 6. I have had products with a lot more particulate and some that the particulate also tasted bad so this is not an issue here at all. Also not a factor that is of great concern to me.

    Pumps - 7.5 - Mesomorph has always provided good pumps for me, and this has not changed with the new version. I would not say that the pump is one of it's major qualities that it is sought after since it was always a stim focused product but pumps have never been ridiculous, but have always been good on it.

    Increased Endurance - 8 - I found that even though I was not zipping around, I always felt like I could do more. Even after a set to failure in 30 seconds I felt like I could get under the bar again, or could have done cardio longer. Also seemed to get an extra rep in here and there.

    Energy - 8.5 - I imagine going from some of the other reviews one might expect this to be lower, however I can't give it less. I REALLY enjoy the feel of the energy provided by this new version. I have to actually mention a new category to differentiate what I think most people apply to the energy category to explain why this less stimmed product gets such a high rating based on energy. However the energy this provides me is very clean, long lasting, and is a pleasant feeling. Maybe even a bit euphoric... By long lasting I mean I have the same energy at the end of my workout as I do getting started. I also have not crashed coming down from it which is a major positive!!!!

    Focus 8.5 - Here is a place that for me I think the newer version surpassed the old version quite well. I do not even have to try to be focused with this version. I just am... Whatever it is my mind if on, it goes on it 100% while I am focusing on it. Other things start to fall away as I begin to set up for my next set. For that moment, there is only that set, or that rep.

    Aggression / Intensity- 5 - Again a 5 is not a bad review, it is saying that for this category this is average. That is exactly what I would say of this preworkout when it comes to aggression / intensity. It gives me all the tools I need to get a great workout at an elevated level of performance. However it does not give me added aggression or intensity. It leaves supplying that up to me. I have to be my own source of motivation, it does not provide "artificial motivation" AKA intensified aggression. This is the feature of the product I think many were unimpressed with and calling it energy for lack of a better word. I also think that it being Mesomorph, one of the most aggressive and intense pre-workouts out there, was a big let down to those who were expecting that type of intensity and aggression that Mesomorph has been known for since it's creation. With this version you get the increased energy but the drive to just get at the weight, and or feeling like a caged animal, pacing back and forth between sets from the intensity is missing. I believe that also has to do with the higher level of euphoric feeling of the product. So from a very aggressive feel to a very good / euphoric feel is quite a difference in type of energy and not a welcome one to those looking for more aggression..

    The total average score I give to the new Mesomorph is a 7.4/10 if this were a pass fail score like school then a 5 would be a C, and this at a 7.4 would be a solid B+.
    Thanks for posting this up man, greatly appreciated.. solid review!
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative
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  3. Is Senegallia the same as Acacia Rigidula like iForce Conqueer 60 servs tub 5 years ago ?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    Is Senegallia the same as Acacia Rigidula like iForce Conqueer 60 servs tub 5 years ago ?
    acacia rigidula was also in several hi-tech stim/fat burners....just sayin
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    acacia rigidula was also in several hi-tech stim/fat burners....just sayin
    Phenadrine V2, Dexaprine xr and other some Lipodrene ?
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  6. Official Review:

    I honestly was looking for a product that would surpass the old in terms of energy, pump, taste, and focus.

    Taste: 3/5
    Honestly I wasnít feeling this for a watermelon flavor. Itís a little too weak for me and if I was blind testing I would ever have guessed watermelon. Itís drinkable for sure but not exactly something Iíd rave about.

    Energy: 3/5 Honestly a very smooth transition but pretty lackluster from what it started with. The huge positive is that thereís no crash period but I didnít feel like this was a high stim PWO at all. With saying that itís just didnít give me the get ready attitude Iím used to from a stimulant PWO.

    Pump: 1/5 Probably my biggest issue. Looking at the label I was expecting impressive pumps and endurance with this product. Only the Endurance seemed present. Increased work capacity is great but I didnít feel like the transition to a pump improvement was there. No boost in vascularity and I keep my intensity pretty high.

    Focus: 3/5 Honestly the most subjective measure simply because we are all motivated differently.

    Miscellaneous: mixed very easily but def some leftover residue in the bottle. Fine powder that I would notice later when cleaning the bottle.

    Beta Alanine was noticed early on but faded after the first week. More or less I did feel the full recommended dose was present and the endurance benefits I believe came from there.

    Overall: 2/5

    I was floored by the lack of pump. I canít forgive it. Energy was ok but thatís all. C4 has decent energy. I personally wouldnít buy this product but I will say it could be good for those just starting out and in similar size to myself.
    Current Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/291581-officially-chasing-abs.html#post5714196

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TheMovement View Post
    Official Review:

    I honestly was looking for a product that would surpass the old in terms of energy, pump, taste, and focus.

    Taste: 3/5
    Honestly I wasn’t feeling this for a watermelon flavor. It’s a little too weak for me and if I was blind testing I would ever have guessed watermelon. It’s drinkable for sure but not exactly something I’d rave about.

    Energy: 3/5 Honestly a very smooth transition but pretty lackluster from what it started with. The huge positive is that there’s no crash period but I didn’t feel like this was a high stim PWO at all. With saying that it’s just didn’t give me the get ready attitude I’m used to from a stimulant PWO.

    Pump: 1/5 Probably my biggest issue. Looking at the label I was expecting impressive pumps and endurance with this product. Only the Endurance seemed present. Increased work capacity is great but I didn’t feel like the transition to a pump improvement was there. No boost in vascularity and I keep my intensity pretty high.

    Focus: 3/5 Honestly the most subjective measure simply because we are all motivated differently.

    Miscellaneous: mixed very easily but def some leftover residue in the bottle. Fine powder that I would notice later when cleaning the bottle.

    Beta Alanine was noticed early on but faded after the first week. More or less I did feel the full recommended dose was present and the endurance benefits I believe came from there.

    Overall: 2/5

    I was floored by the lack of pump. I can’t forgive it. Energy was ok but that’s all. C4 has decent energy. I personally wouldn’t buy this product but I will say it could be good for those just starting out and in similar size to myself.
    Have you used OL Re1gn.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by paul56778 View Post
    Have you used OL Re1gn.
    Iíve actually been talking to some friends at the Nutrition Corners about it. I wanted to but I couldnít get the feedback I needed from reps so I personally left it alone.

    Mesomorph on the other hand was very straightforward.
    Current Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/291581-officially-chasing-abs.html#post5714196

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Okay so this looks like the place to post up the review for the product.

    I am going to give my own rating scale because far too often I see people trying to be nice and give high numbers to a lot of things. They view a rating of 5 as a negative. Well lets be honest here a 5 is the average. Not a negative rating and at this point in the game the average Pre-Workout is actually pretty damn effective in most cases.

    Rating on a scale from 1-10 with 5 being the standard / average of similar products.
    1.100% suckville!
    2. I am not even sure if it did anything...
    3. Maybe it did something but I can't believe people pay for this
    4. I noticed it working but was not satifsfied
    5. Average - this is the average out of all similar products I have sampled... a 5 is perfectly acceptable in any category
    6. Slightly better than average but not impressive.
    7. Impressed with effects
    8. Very Impressed but not WOW'd
    9. This crap is the bomb!!! AKA WOW'd
    10. I can't really imagine it getting better than this.

    ANYTHING ABOVE A 5 IS A POSITIVE REVIEW, and a 5 means I found it to average effect among other pre workouts.


    I used the DMAA version, and then used the Senegalia version the following day to have a better comparison. I have to say that most of the characteristics of this version of Mesomorph are identical to the previous version with DMAA. Where I noticed a difference was in the energy and focus provided. I will go into the specifics of each area I focus on with a pre workout below.

    Taste - 8.5 - I had the watermelon flavor as well and really enjoyed it. I can't imagine a pre workout ever getting a 10 in taste and to be honest an 8.5 is a pretty damn high rating here.

    Mixability - 6 - this one is one I see mentioned all the time and although I don't think it is that important I am rating it here for others. I shake all of my pre workouts for about 5 seconds if that. When finished there are still some course and gritty bits on the bottom of the cup I have to swill the liquid around in the bottom to get them floating so I can shoot them down. It tastes like they may be flavor crystals, or something. Either way the bits are bigger and more than a lot of other Pre-workouts so I give it a 6. I have had products with a lot more particulate and some that the particulate also tasted bad so this is not an issue here at all. Also not a factor that is of great concern to me.

    Pumps - 7.5 - Mesomorph has always provided good pumps for me, and this has not changed with the new version. I would not say that the pump is one of it's major qualities that it is sought after since it was always a stim focused product but pumps have never been ridiculous, but have always been good on it.

    Increased Endurance - 8 - I found that even though I was not zipping around, I always felt like I could do more. Even after a set to failure in 30 seconds I felt like I could get under the bar again, or could have done cardio longer. Also seemed to get an extra rep in here and there.

    Energy - 8.5 - I imagine going from some of the other reviews one might expect this to be lower, however I can't give it less. I REALLY enjoy the feel of the energy provided by this new version. I have to actually mention a new category to differentiate what I think most people apply to the energy category to explain why this less stimmed product gets such a high rating based on energy. However the energy this provides me is very clean, long lasting, and is a pleasant feeling. Maybe even a bit euphoric... By long lasting I mean I have the same energy at the end of my workout as I do getting started. I also have not crashed coming down from it which is a major positive!!!!

    Focus 8.5 - Here is a place that for me I think the newer version surpassed the old version quite well. I do not even have to try to be focused with this version. I just am... Whatever it is my mind if on, it goes on it 100% while I am focusing on it. Other things start to fall away as I begin to set up for my next set. For that moment, there is only that set, or that rep.

    Aggression / Intensity- 5 - Again a 5 is not a bad review, it is saying that for this category this is average. That is exactly what I would say of this preworkout when it comes to aggression / intensity. It gives me all the tools I need to get a great workout at an elevated level of performance. However it does not give me added aggression or intensity. It leaves supplying that up to me. I have to be my own source of motivation, it does not provide "artificial motivation" AKA intensified aggression. This is the feature of the product I think many were unimpressed with and calling it energy for lack of a better word. I also think that it being Mesomorph, one of the most aggressive and intense pre-workouts out there, was a big let down to those who were expecting that type of intensity and aggression that Mesomorph has been known for since it's creation. With this version you get the increased energy but the drive to just get at the weight, and or feeling like a caged animal, pacing back and forth between sets from the intensity is missing. I believe that also has to do with the higher level of euphoric feeling of the product. So from a very aggressive feel to a very good / euphoric feel is quite a difference in type of energy and not a welcome one to those looking for more aggression..

    The total average score I give to the new Mesomorph is a 7.4/10 if this were a pass fail score like school then a 5 would be a C, and this at a 7.4 would be a solid B+.
    Honestly this is one of the better reviews I have seen in the last few years. Thanks again
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    Is Senegallia the same as Acacia Rigidula like iForce Conqueer 60 servs tub 5 years ago ?
    they contain several key actives, all based on the phenethylamine stimulants
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative Manager

  11. Ok but it's exactly the same same or the type but with a different feeling ?
    Like DMAA vs DMHA
    or caffeine VS theophyline

  12. From one of the HiTech Fat Burners

    Senegalia Berlandieri
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Black Piranha Ingredients
    Black Piranha packs a whopping 65mg Coca Leaf extract alongside a moderate 200mg caffeine and a truckload of bonus stims to enhance fat burning and appetite suppression.

    Similar to Acacia Rigidula, Senegalia Berlandieri extract is another plant-based extract providing a 150mg dose of several PEA alkaloids including B-Phenylethylamine and N-Methyl-B-Phenylethylamine. This promotes a strong boost in energy and mood thanks to the increase in dopamine and adrenaline levels in the body.

    Studies using acacia extract (which this essential is) demonstrates that it has the same fat-burning, energy boosting effects as 30mg of ephedrine[1,2], but this is a far safer, and legal option!

    So Senegalia is very similar, but not the same, and that depends on if that is the right type of Senegalia, there seem to be multiple type of this plant. Each extract could be quite different.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  13. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    From one of the HiTech Fat Burners

    Senegalia Berlandieri
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Black Piranha Ingredients
    Black Piranha packs a whopping 65mg Coca Leaf extract alongside a moderate 200mg caffeine and a truckload of bonus stims to enhance fat burning and appetite suppression.

    Similar to Acacia Rigidula, Senegalia Berlandieri extract is another plant-based extract providing a 150mg dose of several PEA alkaloids including B-Phenylethylamine and N-Methyl-B-Phenylethylamine. This promotes a strong boost in energy and mood thanks to the increase in dopamine and adrenaline levels in the body.

    Studies using acacia extract (which this essential is) demonstrates that it has the same fat-burning, energy boosting effects as 30mg of ephedrine[1,2], but this is a far safer, and legal option!

    So Senegalia is very similar, but not the same, and that depends on if that is the right type of Senegalia, there seem to be multiple type of this plant. Each extract could be quite different.
    Ok so it's different, a little difference can do much like adding a methyl group somewhere...

    I asked because iF Conqueer was way too strong for me and me buddy, and I agree with the study it feelt like ephedrine on us : wanted to pee every 2 minutes all day in the class holly sheeeet ��
    I would like to try this Senegalia meso if everyone know when can I get a sample for the science

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    Ok so it's different, a little difference can do much like adding a methyl group somewhere...

    I asked because iF Conqueer was way too strong for me and me buddy, and I agree with the study it feelt like ephedrine on us : wanted to pee every 2 minutes all day in the class holly sheeeet ��
    I would like to try this Senegalia meso if everyone know when can I get a sample for the science
    Feels nothing like ephedrine, if you are looking for a stim heavy pre workout then Mesomorph w Senegalia is not for you. It is a major step away from the high stim preworkout that it used to be. I would say it is more long the lines of a moderate energy, and high focus oriented preworkout now.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  15. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Feels nothing like ephedrine, if you are looking for a stim heavy pre workout then Mesomorph w Senegalia is not for you. It is a major step away from the high stim preworkout that it used to be. I would say it is more long the lines of a moderate energy, and high focus oriented preworkout now.
    The same type of feeling provided by Lipodrene Elite ? It has 175 mg of senegalia omg #love

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    The same type of feeling provided by Lipodrene Elite ? It has 175 mg of senegalia omg #love
    Yeah, I ran that recently and this does have a similar feel to it. The same euphoric, long lasting energy that just kept you wanting to move. Not a driving force type of energy, more like your own energy, just more of it than usual. IE it is a feel good stim.
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah, I ran that recently and this does have a similar feel to it. The same euphoric, long lasting energy that just kept you wanting to move. Not a driving force type of energy, more like your own energy, just more of it than usual. IE it is a feel good stim.
    If you already tried APS White Lightning (pill 515 mg) how do you compare it to LIpodrene Elite/Meso Senegalia ? Thanks

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    If you already tried APS White Lightning (pill 515 mg) how do you compare it to LIpodrene Elite/Meso Senegalia ? Thanks
    I have had the APS White Lightning pills before, but not sure on the version, it was way stronger than this. However it was also a few years ago, so I imagine it is a newer version and has probably been dialed back down a bit since then with the newer laws.
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    I was graciously sent a container of Mesomorph in the Carnival Cotton Candy flavor
    by a Gaspari rep dougefresh93 and it's the version without DMAA so after using it
    once a week over a course of a few weeks I figured I'd post a little feedback on how
    this PW worked for me for my early a.m. weight training workouts.


    Mix Ability - 9/10- Powder in a shaker cup mixed with virtually no foam or clumping
    and just a little sediment which dropped to the bottom. After drinking it I always added
    a few more ounces of water to pick up and remaining sediment.

    Taste- 8/10- I personally never liked cotton candy but this comes through in flavor more
    like crushed up sweet tarts which I do like but you do get some bitterness as you
    continue drinking it. I went with 16oz of ice cold water which for me was the perfect amount
    where it wasn't too sweet and the flavor came through enjoyable with less of the bitterness.
    If you've ever tasted Controlled Labs Purple Wraaph in the Cotton Candy flavor this was very
    similar except for the slight bitterness which is probably due to the stimulants.

    Energy/Focus- 8/10- The energy on this kicks in very smoothly and the Senegalia feels a lot
    like a strong dose of PEA where you feel pretty alert but it's not a smack you in the face type
    of energy. I experienced no jitters, racing heart, or anything that resembled like this was some
    type of exotic stimulant. The energy on this felt pretty tamed but what I liked about it was that it
    was long lasting. What I felt this PW needed was more focus and since I personally feel nothing
    from Beta Alanine I would get rid of that from the profile and add either a good dose of CDP or
    ALPHA GPC to really give this more of a focus feel to go along with the clean uplifting energy.

    Pumps- 8/10- I'm pretty vascular and I carry a good amount of lean muscle so my muscles
    tend to pump easily. I noticed as my reps and sets were performed my pumps came on
    pretty quickly but they were nothing to crazy but they were there. What I did notice was that
    the pumps didn't last that long after my workout but for the last two workouts I've stacked it
    with 2 gm of Glycerol and the pumps were fuller and longer lasting.

    Overall- 8.3/10- I rotate my pre-workouts each and every time I train so I never use the
    same PW more than once a week and each time I've used this new version of Mesomorph
    I've had some pretty decent workouts where the energy kicked in smoothly and lasted, pumps
    were decent, and as my sets went on my intensity level increased resulting into either more
    reps per set or a slight increase in poundage.

    I'm a trainer who has no issues with exotic stimulants or yohimbine but if your someone who
    is sensitive to exotics or yohimbine I don't think you'll have any issue with this version of Mesomorph
    so this might be a good one to try and for the others like myself who can handle anything this is a
    decent PW to through into a PW rotation to give yourself a day off from the exotics and yohimbine
    so that those pre's will hit you better on the days you do use them.
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