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    Well that got hairy.

    On the subject of the ingredients & effects it will produce on humans: once this product hits the shelves, there'll be some guys munching these within the first wk. And within a month or two we'll all have a pretty good idea of what to expect, regardless of what the literature points toward (for better or worse).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Well that got hairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    so it seems it is just a simple miswording, which is what I knew all along, but can admit I went about addressing it in all the wrong way.
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    Iparatroop
    This post is way over my head even for a physical therapy doctoral student!
    Glad to see you haven't changed a bit!
    Best of luck with the new product!
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    Now THAT'S hairy!
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    Interesting. Don't want to take that supplement
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    aromatase will lower the amount of circulating aromatizable androgens..
    Hey look you finally put together a 2 piece puzzle.

    Quote Originally Posted by 80PTHooker View Post
    Iparatroop
    This post is way over my head even for a physical therapy doctoral student!
    Glad to see you haven't changed a bit!
    Best of luck with the new product!
    Think back to freshman/sophmore year and your biochem and AP classes, it's hiding in there somewhere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryLiftin View Post

    Hey look you finally put together a 2 piece puzzle.

    Think back to freshman/sophmore year and your biochem and AP classes, it's hiding in there somewhere!
    You must not understand the discussion.
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    I'm not even sure I understood the discussion

    moving along.....
    hold tight gents! more info to come in due time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    You must not understand the discussion.
    lol. You base that statement on what exactly? Just because your reading comprehension skills among others suck, doesn't mean I don't understand the discussion. Anyone with even a small background in the endocrine system and biochemistry can understand the pathways that these kinds of products work through in the body. I understand why you were confused initially since the wording is a little tricky, but it's really not all that complex once you get past the vernacular.

    I was just giving you a little jibe since you were poking your own fun around on this thread earlier. The internet is a harsh place man.

    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    I'm not even sure I understood the discussion

    moving along.....
    hold tight gents! more info to come in due time!
    I hope you understood since you are putting the product out

    I'm gona stop by the store and grab some troll feed though, just in case.
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    Look, with all due respect to all parties involved, I believe that the topics at hand were dealt with and an understanding has been reached. I don't think there is any reason to continue rehashing it. It's nice to see the amount of involvement in this thread, but let's try to keep it product focused. We had our moment, it's handled, let's move on. Thanks guys,

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    Fine by me Dave, wasn't trying to stir it back up.
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    dave is such a swell guy -- I almost like him
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    He's alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Thought you were in hiding Steve?
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    getting closer to the next installment of information guys! hang in there..
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    Excellent Nice product....
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    Very cool. I've seen the brassia before in I believe triazole? Or another AI/test boost supp, but I'm gathering that this is a novel ingredient that is extracted or produced uniquely to Finaflex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I'm gathering that this is a novel ingredient that is extracted or produced uniquely to Finaflex?
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    I'm assuming it's up for sale now??
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymwrenchwv View Post
    I'm assuming it's up for sale now??
    no sir, not quite yet!
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    Better be some sweet intro deals on NP, the way Max Pump was. I'm a sucker for monster intro deals.
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    Still up for first voluntary logger/tester ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheru2016 View Post
    Still up for first voluntary logger/tester ^^
    Same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Better be some sweet intro deals on NP, the way Max Pump was. I'm a sucker for monster intro deals.
    The planet always runs good intro specials. I can see why this would be different.
    Quote Originally Posted by cheru2016 View Post
    Still up for first voluntary logger/tester ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Same here
    I'd suggest keeping your eye out for promos then. I'm looking forward to giving it a run too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymwrenchwv View Post
    I'm assuming it's up for sale now??
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I'd suggest keeping your eye out for promos then. I'm looking forward to giving it a run too.
    I can't wait.
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    Can you link up the maslinic acid studies? It's an interesting ingredient but the only protein synthesis study I found was in trout (which aren't a model for humans, completely different evolutionary lineage). This was only cursory though so I'm guessing you have something else
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    research on maslinic acid was based on both in vivo and vitro studies on maslinic acid itself and other triterpenoids similar in structure
    see studies below...


    Stanley CK Cheung, Li-zhong Liu. Glucose lowering effect of transgenic
    human insulin-like growth factor-I from rice: in vitro and in vivo studies.
    BMC Biotechnol. 2011; 11: 37.

    Fernández-Navarro, M., Peragón, J. Maslinic acid as a feed additive to
    stimulate growth and hepatic protein-turnover rates in rainbow trout
    (Oncorhynchus mykiss). Comp. Biochem. Physiol. 2006. C 144, 130–140.

    Mónica Fernández-Navarro a, Juan Peragón. Maslinic acid added to the
    diet increases growth and protein-turnover rates in the white muscle of
    rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss). Comparative Biochemistry and
    Physiology, Part C 147 (2008) 158–167.

    Mónica Fernández-Navarro, Juan Peragón. Maslinic Acid: A Component
    of Olive Oil on Growth and Protein-turnover Rates. Olives and Olive Oil in
    Health and Disease Prevention. Chapter 157. ISBN: 978-0-12-374420-3.


    Henke BR, Sparks SM. Glycogen phosphorylase inhibitors. Mini
    Rev Med Chem 6:845–857. 2006.

    Jun Liu, Rajkumar Rajendram. Effects of Oleanolic Acid and Maslinic
    Acid on Glucose and Lipid Metabolism: Implications for the Beneficial
    Effects of Olive Oil on Health. Olives and Olive Oil in Health and Disease
    Prevention. Chapter 158. ISBN: 978-0-12-374420-3.

    Wen, X., Sun, H., Liu, J., Wu, G., Zhang, L., Wu, X., Ni, P., 2005.
    Pentacyclic triterpenes. Part 1: The first examples of naturally occurring
    pentacyclic triterpenes as a new class of inhibitors of glycogen
    phosphorylases. Bioorg. Med. Chem. Lett.15 (22), 4944–4948.


    Liu F, Schafer DP, McCullough LD. 2009. TTC, fluoro-Jade B and NeuN
    staining confirm evolving phases of infarction induced by middle cerebral
    artery occlusion. J Neurosci Methods 179:1–8.

    Liu J, Sun H, Duan W, Mu D, Zhang L. 2007. Maslinic acid reduces
    blood glucose in KK-Ay mice. Biol Pharm Bull 30:2075–2078.

    Wen X, Sun H, Liu J, Cheng K, Zhang P, Zhang L, Hao J, Ni P,
    Zographos SE, Leonidas DD, Alexacou KM, Gimisis T, Hayes JM,
    Oikonomakos NG. 2008. Naturally occurring pentacyclic triterpenes as
    inhibitors of glycogen phosphorylase: synthesis, structure–activity
    relationships, and X-ray crystallographic studies. J Med Chem 51:3540–
    3554.

    Qian Y, Guan T, Tang X, Huang L, Huang M, Li Y, Sun H, Yu R, Zhang F.
    2011. Astrocytic glutamate transporter-dependent neuroprotection against
    glutamate toxicity: an in vitro study of maslinic acid. Eur J Pharmacol
    651:59–65.

    Teng Guan, Yisong Qian. Maslinic Acid, a Natural Inhibitor of Glycogen
    Phosphorylase, Reduces Cerebral Ischemic Injury in Hyperglycemic Rats
    by GLT-1 Up-Regulation. Journal of Neuroscience Research
    89:1829–1839 (2011)


    Insulin-like growth factor-I: potential for treatment of motor neuronal
    disorders. Lewis ME, Neff NT, Contreras PC, Stong DB, Oppenheim RW,
    Grebow PE, Vaught JL.SourceCephalon, Inc., West Chester, Pennsylvania
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    the only protein synthesis study I found was in trout (which aren't a model for humans, completely different evolutionary lineage)
    Idk, I knew this kid in highschool with webbed feet. That s.o.b. could swim like a madman.
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    Finaflex = Quality!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
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    any news on ETA? labels delay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raptor2003 View Post
    any news on ETA? labels delay?
    ahh very intuitive of you..
    we haven't forgotten about you all trust me, rather we have experienced a slight delay in the process
    will resume this once I am able to, thanks all for your patience!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    ahh very intuitive of you..
    we haven't forgotten about you all trust me, rather we have experienced a slight delay in the process
    will resume this once I am able to, thanks all for your patience!
    We are excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post
    We are excited!
    that pretty much sums up our feelings here as well..

    label proofs should be finishing up, and I will post more info and present a special opportunity in the very near future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    that pretty much sums up our feelings here as well..

    label proofs should be finishing up, and I will post more info and present a special opportunity in the very near future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Very cool. I've seen the brassia before in I believe triazole? Or another AI/test boost supp, but I'm gathering that this is a novel ingredient that is extracted or produced uniquely to Finaflex?
    Yep it is Triazole got me nice strenght gain on its own, really intrigate about the new Finaflex product!
  

  
 

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