JOSIAH MCQUILLIN GAINS OVER 10 LB. PURE MUSCLE IN 4 WEEKS ON PNI!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by R3ACTION View Post
    So March 2012
    Did he fall off the wagon before the PNI log?



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    Our did he find a tanning booth and figure out how to post?
    I'm not trying to be rude by any means but i would appreciate it if you would stop trying to prove that we are lying. Since you don't know Josiah and I do those pictures were when he was trying to do a MHP transformation contest trying to get into really good shape and yes lost some of his shape afterwards. So if you have nothing good to say please don't comment in this thread when you have no idea who this person is. We would never put false claims to the public. We mean nothing but good and trying to put good motivation/success stories people have received. Since i just was given the go ahead from the CEO of PNI i will soon show you around 7 more good success stories after I'am done with these kids. These great individuals have came to me wanting to do the same and yes i will be doing their diet and yes i will be sending these kids their workout every single day because I care about helping others reach their goals the right way. So i would really appreciate it that you knocked it off. Your not gonna get anywhere because theres nothing to hide. Please and thank you.
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  2. Eric I do believe you are missing the point, no one is doubting the products are beneficial. Chad, Howwe and PNI products have respect on this board.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Luke_PNI View Post

    I'm not trying to be rude by any means but i would appreciate it if you would stop trying to prove that we are lying. Since you don't know Josiah and I do those pictures were when he was trying to do a MHP transformation contest trying to get into really good shape and yes lost some of his shape afterwards. So if you have nothing good to say please don't comment in this thread when you have no idea who this person is. We would never put false claims to the public. We mean nothing but good and trying to put good motivation/success stories people have received. Since i just was given the go ahead from the CEO of PNI i will soon show you around 7 more good success stories after I'am done with these kids. These great individuals have came to me wanting to do the same and yes i will be doing their diet and yes i will be sending these kids their workout every single day because I care about helping others reach their goals the right way. So i would really appreciate it that you knocked it off. Your not gonna get anywhere because theres nothing to hide. Please and thank you.
    I'm not trying to get anywhere. You are advertising a stack that may or may not be safe. You were so tickled over the results that you just posted it up everywhere not knowing if its safe. Why don't you go around and edit it to say that we don't recommend using this stack because we are concerned with the wellbeing of our customers.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by R3ACTION View Post
    I'm not trying to get anywhere. You are advertising a stack that may or may not be safe. You were so tickled over the results that you just posted it up everywhere not knowing if its safe. Why don't you go around and edit it to say that we don't recommend using this stack because we are concerned with the wellbeing of our customers.
    We did not advertise that, we simply stated how he took it. I have done my research and noted they work by separate path ways and thus may have synergistic effects. I am doing the same thing right now with paragon and D-test to be honest with you to see what i notice. So far going great. I will send you the link to your inbox so you can read yourself. Starts on page 6. Hope this clears things up for you and shows you that the wellbeing of Josiah is mighty fine !
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Luke_PNI View Post

    We did not advertise that, we simply stated how he took it. I have done my research and noted they work by separate path ways and thus may have synergistic effects. I am doing the same thing right now with paragon and D-test to be honest with you to see what i notice. So far going great. I will send you the link to your inbox so you can read yourself. Starts on page 6. Hope this clears things up for you and shows you that the wellbeing of Josiah is mighty fine !
    You are advertising that stack. Its pointless to argue, what you are doing is wrong. Regardless of your research you cannot say it is safe however you will continue to promote the results. By doing so you are putting your consumers at a risk.

    The results may be there but the lack of knowledge or the google searches you have performed do not put me in a place of comfort. A single or a few individuals do not count as a study. Neither are they grounds for saying that it is safe. The prideful arguments that they showed success in an individual that cannot be verified no matter how much you try to defend them throw up a huge flag for myself and others.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by R3ACTION View Post

    You are advertising that stack. Its pointless to argue, what you are doing is wrong. Regardless of your research you cannot say it is safe however you will continue to promote the results. By doing so you are putting your consumers at a risk.

    The results may be there but the lack of knowledge or the google searches you have performed do not put me in a place of comfort. A single or a few individuals do not count as a study. Neither are they grounds for saying that it is safe. The prideful arguments that they showed success in an individual that cannot be verified no matter how much you try to defend them throw up a huge flag for myself and others.
    Why don't you just leave it alone buddy. They were just showing someone's results who chose to do it on their own accord. They have already addressed you.

  7. Psychotic symptoms during phenibut (beta-phenyl-gamma-aminobutyric acid) withdrawal
    Posted online on April 19, 2012. (doi:10.3109/14659891.2012.668261)
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    Lovisa Högberg1, István Szabó2, & Jaan Ruusa2
    1Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden
    2The Center for Dependency Disorders in Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden
    Correspondence: Lovisa Högberg, Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Karolinska Institutet, PO Box 281, SE-171 77 Stockholm, Sweden. Tel: +468-524 82 326. Fax: +468-31 49 57. E-mail: [email protected]


    Background: Phenibut is a GABAB agonist that was developed in the Soviet Union in the 1960s. In Russia, it is used in clinical practice to treat, for example, anxiety and alcohol withdrawal symptoms. In Europe and in the United States, phenibut is marketed as a nutritional supplement for improved sleep. In different Internet discussion forums, there are several reports of withdrawal symptoms.

    Aim: Our aim was to share what we have learnt from a case study wherein a patient was followed throughout the whole abstinence period.

    Case report: A somatically healthy man in his mid-20s with a previous history of substance abuse took phenibut for 2 months. He noted tolerance development already after the first week and increased doses up to 20 g/day. Already a few hours after the last dose the patient started to experience subjective symptoms, at the third day of abstinence the patient started to hallucinate and the following day's symptoms were aggravated with increased hallucinations and confusion. After treatment with benzodiazepines the psychosis resolved.

    Conclusion: Phenibut withdrawal symptoms can become severe and have similarities to Baclofen, GHB, benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal. Benzodiazepines and supportive care seems to be the most effective choice of treatment for objective abstinence symptoms.




    Read More: http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...91.2012.668261

    Some may understand why I posted this and some may not. If you get it cool, if not just disregard and carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
    Why don't you just leave it alone buddy. They were just showing someone's results who chose to do it on their own accord. They have already addressed you.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by EBroser View Post
    Psychotic symptoms during phenibut (beta-phenyl-gamma-aminobutyric acid) withdrawal
    Posted online on April 19, 2012. (doi:10.3109/14659891.2012.668261)
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    Lovisa Högberg1, István Szabó2, & Jaan Ruusa2
    1Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden
    2The Center for Dependency Disorders in Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden
    Correspondence: Lovisa Högberg, Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Karolinska Institutet, PO Box 281, SE-171 77 Stockholm, Sweden. Tel: +468-524 82 326. Fax: +468-31 49 57. E-mail: [email protected]

    Background: Phenibut is a GABAB agonist that was developed in the Soviet Union in the 1960s. In Russia, it is used in clinical practice to treat, for example, anxiety and alcohol withdrawal symptoms. In Europe and in the United States, phenibut is marketed as a nutritional supplement for improved sleep. In different Internet discussion forums, there are several reports of withdrawal symptoms.

    Aim: Our aim was to share what we have learnt from a case study wherein a patient was followed throughout the whole abstinence period.

    Case report: A somatically healthy man in his mid-20s with a previous history of substance abuse took phenibut for 2 months. He noted tolerance development already after the first week and increased doses up to 20 g/day. Already a few hours after the last dose the patient started to experience subjective symptoms, at the third day of abstinence the patient started to hallucinate and the following day's symptoms were aggravated with increased hallucinations and confusion. After treatment with benzodiazepines the psychosis resolved.

    Conclusion: Phenibut withdrawal symptoms can become severe and have similarities to Baclofen, GHB, benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal. Benzodiazepines and supportive care seems to be the most effective choice of treatment for objective abstinence symptoms.

    Read More: http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...91.2012.668261

    Some may understand why I posted this and some may not. If you get it cool, if not just disregard and carry on.
    Probably a layer or two to understanding this .. Ninja-like ... I also could just be sleep deprived and way off, too. Interesting thread none-the-less

    I think it's Tough for some to believe such dramatic changes if they have never experienced them for themselves. At Age 17, I dialed my training and diet so tight, logging EVERYTHING for my own records and followed meal plans to the calorie and workouts to a T... I got bf% down to 5% for a few months before taking it extreme and developing an illness/obsession- anorexia- point is-- the
    Body is capable of wild things, regardless of what you use to supplement- the supplements r jjst that- and the dedication and knowledge is far more valuable. If you have the dedication and k knowledge though, your results will be greatly
    Accelerated and improved. That is what PNI did for this individual in the case of Josiah.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Probably a layer or two to understanding this .. Ninja-like ... I also could just be sleep deprived and way off, too. Interesting thread none-the-less

    I think it's Tough for some to believe such dramatic changes if they have never experienced them for themselves. At Age 17, I dialed my training and diet so tight, logging EVERYTHING for my own records and followed meal plans to the calorie and workouts to a T... I got bf% down to 5% for a few months before taking it extreme and developing an illness/obsession- anorexia- point is-- the
    Body is capable of wild things, regardless of what you use to supplement- the supplements r jjst that- and the dedication and knowledge is far more valuable. If you have the dedication and k knowledge though, your results will be greatly
    Accelerated and improved. That is what PNI did for this individual in the case of Josiah.
    Camillo thank you buddy for the kind words and your exactly right !
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  11. So much conflict ITT....

  12. Holy crap that was tough to read through. I was thinking the same as Mr. Cooper in regards to glycogen and water weight. I've had a swing of up to 7 lbs that way.

    No matter how you cut it even a 2-3lb gain LBM in a month without aas is stellar!

    PNI seems to me to be a legit company with good products and I wouldn't think Chad, Luke or Eric would intentionally mislead anyone.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by EBroser View Post

    And until I see a single adverse report or study where someone takes both compounds and gets negatively effected nobody can claim it is dangerous to stack the two with any truth except in theory if anything -- even though I still would not recommend it because there is no need.

    Did you not read my post? When was the last time you perceived neuronal cell death? I can assure you that you've experienced quite a bit...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Luke_PNI View Post
    We did not advertise that, we simply stated how he took it. I have done my research and noted they work by separate path ways and thus may have synergistic effects.
    Nope, they are both NMDA agonists, and supplementing NMDA may reduce DAA methylation via Le Chatelier's principle. So using both supplements is:1. Anti-synergistic/diminishing2. Potentially dangerous

  15. Quote Originally Posted by EBroser View Post
    Psychotic symptoms during phenibut (beta-phenyl-gamma-aminobutyric acid) withdrawalPosted online on April 19, 2012. (doi:10.3109/14659891.2012.668261)HTMLPDF (109 KB)PDF Plus (114 KB)ReprintsPermissionsLovisa Högberg1, István Szabó2, & Jaan Ruusa21Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden2The Center for Dependency Disorders in Stockholm, Stockholm, SwedenCorrespondence: Lovisa Högberg, Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Karolinska Institutet, PO Box 281, SE-171 77 Stockholm, Sweden. Tel: +468-524 82 326. Fax: +468-31 49 57. E-mail: [email protected]Background: Phenibut is a GABAB agonist that was developed in the Soviet Union in the 1960s. In Russia, it is used in clinical practice to treat, for example, anxiety and alcohol withdrawal symptoms. In Europe and in the United States, phenibut is marketed as a nutritional supplement for improved sleep. In different Internet discussion forums, there are several reports of withdrawal symptoms.Aim: Our aim was to share what we have learnt from a case study wherein a patient was followed throughout the whole abstinence period.Case report: A somatically healthy man in his mid-20s with a previous history of substance abuse took phenibut for 2 months. He noted tolerance development already after the first week and increased doses up to 20 g/day. Already a few hours after the last dose the patient started to experience subjective symptoms, at the third day of abstinence the patient started to hallucinate and the following day's symptoms were aggravated with increased hallucinations and confusion. After treatment with benzodiazepines the psychosis resolved.Conclusion: Phenibut withdrawal symptoms can become severe and have similarities to Baclofen, GHB, benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal. Benzodiazepines and supportive care seems to be the most effective choice of treatment for objective abstinence symptoms.Read More: An Error Occurred Setting Your User CookieSome may understand why I posted this and some may not. If you get it cool, if not just disregard and carry on.
    Sorry, but you don't understand science. A case study of a single individual does not prove the danger of a compound. This backwards theory would require:1. Perception of the negative stimulus (not true in the case of NMDA/DAA)2. Genetic predisposition and/or contraindicated environmental factors3. The assumption that a case study is synonymous with in vivo data, when in reality, the difference between an experimental trial and a case study is enormous

    Again, I'm not here to talk about any of PNI's products which I find superb. When I see misinformation this blatant, I can't just shut my mouth and put up with it .

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Nope, they are both NMDA agonists, and supplementing NMDA may reduce DAA methylation via Le Chatelier's principle. So using both supplements is:1. Anti-synergistic/diminishing2. Potentially dangerous
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    Don't go getting science based on him now! He has something better then science remember!
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  18. Guys,

    Let stay on track. I have nothing but respect for everyone on here and I am excited to see how people respond to the stack!!

  19. Hello everyone. My name is Josiah McQuillin. First off, I'd like to clear up that PNI did not tell me to do this. I have had a friendship with luke and once he joined PNI I decided to try out Their stack. It wasn't paid for by them or anything of that nature. Now what people do not know is that this transformation was spurred by a buddy of mine. He was offering me steroids and in response to that I did this stack to prove I did not need any of that. I didn't just make a point to him..but I got him using these products as well. As for my training and nutrition, I made a 360 on both ends. My training intensity went through the roof which equaled more weight..and drive. I also did 30 minutes of low intensity cardio a week. Nutrition wise, I couldn't have eaten cleaner. Since I was only doing 4 weeks, I dedicated every single day to it. My food sources consisted of Chicken breast, Fish, lean beef, turkey, brown rice, and sweet potatoes. Day inn and out. Along with green vegetables and fruit. And as far as this being "impossible" I can respectfully tell you that every bit of my transformation was legit. Due to proper nutrition, training, and of course the right supplementation. I was just as blown away as everyone else, and I will stand by these products 110%. As you may know i used Paragon, Thermadex, prodigy, and D-test. i know D-Test isnt recomended with Paragon, but it was my choice to do it this way.If you have any questions ask away. Thanks

  20. Thank you Josiah on the feedback man
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  21. Great transformation brother Ty for your kinda words about PNI and yes luke is pretty great I'm still waiting to be watching late night TV and see him have some new and improved P90X system airing
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  22. ...Indeed, nice wrk man.

  23. my pleasure man!! hahah agreed! all in good time

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Luke_PNI View Post
    Thank you Josiah on the feedback man
    And also thank you for taking the time, making an account and sharing with us. We really appreciate it
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  25. MY pleasure! happy to help any way possible

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Josiah M. View Post
    MY pleasure! happy to help any way possible
    Hi Josiah,

    Welcome. Thank you for sharing your story with us.

    What was your macro like percentage wise and how many calories did you eat per day ? Any carb cycling or back loading ?

    How many days did you do cardio ? First in the AM ?

    What would you say your training style mirrored ? Westside ? 5/3/1 ? GVT ? Mountain dog ? Mentzer ?

    I am assuming you are mesomorph ?


    Thanks again !!!
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  27. Sorry, one more... Did you have any staples for supplements ?
    I started a new log at:
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  28. Luke,

    you knew I would be first with questions.



    I could get the stack for around $100, but it looks like D-Test is not available at Nutra. I rather get everything in one place to save shipping cost....still looking for other options.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  29. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Luke,

    you knew I would be first with questions.



    I could get the stack for around $100, but it looks like D-Test is not available at Nutra. I rather get everything in one place to save shipping cost....still looking for other options.
    Yeah NP has great prices bro paragon is only 29.99$ and prodigy is 26$ thanks for your interest brother always nice to see you in PNI threads
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post

    Yeah NP has great prices bro paragon is only 29.99$ and prodigy is 26$ thanks for your interest brother always nice to see you in PNI threads
    No problem howwedo. I exchanged several PMs with Luke about this stack. My interest is high whether I run this now or later. Just have to figure out what I want to do first.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html
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