FDA Raid....

[Androfactory]

As you all might have heard our close neighbors and friends at Primordial Performance have been raided and all of their product has been seized. We want to extend our deepest respect and remorse to their situation and assure everyone that their products are safe and legal. DHEA was not included in the Anabolic Steroid act of 2004 and all of their products are tested and legit. Members of our staff here at ANDRO FACTORY have personally worked in the purchasing, production and testing of all products PP.

Again this is a terrible day. F the FDA, this is bull****.


Safe-Legal-Strong.

AF Understands that users are concerned about the security of their email information. This is an official statement that AF apologizes to anyone who feels their email information from Primordial Performance was mishandled. No email list were stolen, that is an official statement. Any email addresses that are acquired by an individual/owner during ownership of one company; remains the owner of that list when that company is over or divided. AF sincerely apologizes to everyone involved and has deleted any emails that were acquired between the dates 2009 and 2012. We wish to move on from this and hope you will support it .

Thank you

-AF

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Pretty emotional past couple days for Eric and the PP reps.

I express my condolences and don't doubt they will come back from this somehow.

I looked at the reviews of Bulk Up after googling a bit on Androfactory and the results seem on par with what I saw from my Andromass cycles.

I know I was a dick to you guys before, and I apologize. I was a big Primordial fan and obviously was a bit territorial.
I dismiss my prior stature with AF, because I am curious to see what you guys can promise us for the near future. Working with LG and having TN's formulator in my opinion=win for the consumer.
So let's see how Bulk Up treats everyone.
I am subbed to the logs.

Fingers crossed it is a legit alternative to the guys running Andromass!

P.s. to anyone that wants to argue with me about my stance, feel free to PM me.
I'm not about to tarnish my reputation here with an all out argument over the subject matter. I'm simply stating my opinion and would prefer to keep personal opinions confined to PM in order to keep these threads on track.


Best of luck to you PP reps. I have come to think of most of you like family!

[g0hardorgohom]

Class act.

I'm expecting big things from TN's formulator!

[sking6464]

AF is such a fkn joke, now im getting pms with a link to this thinly veiled product plug.........big time fkn ****ty company

venus winkler needs to get her fb page carpetbombed

[efini84]

This is an official statement that AF apologizes to anyone who feels their email information from Primordial Performance was mishandled. No email list were stolen, that is an official statement. Any email addresses that are acquired by an individual/owner during ownership of one company; remains the owner of that list when that company is over or divided.

you have to be kidding me. this is the "public apology" you PMed me twice about?

a) primordial's own privacy policy: "[Primordial Performance LLC is] the sole owners of the information collected on this site. We only have access to/collect information that you voluntarily give us via e-mail or other direct contact from you. We will not sell or rent this information to anyone." Primordial, not the individual owners, employees, contractors, ****buddies, or disgruntled former employees. Primordial owns the data.
b) primordial wasn't "over" or "divided" when you decided to spam a list that wasn't yours
c) CAN-SPAM violation much? the entire premise of protecting US from spammers like you, is authorization and consent. No authorization, no consent = SPAM
d) your "company" is a ****ing joke and if i cared about 10% more i'd negative seo your site to hell. PM me again and I'll make that a reality.

[AaronJP1]

[Young Gotti]

POWERFUL ANDROFACTORY!

[sking6464]

POWERFUL ANDROFACTORY!

?????
all the need2 guys are on venus winkler now?
i saw my 130lb aas expert mich29 is pimping her stuff

[Young Gotti]

?????
all the need2 guys are on venus winkler now?
i saw my 130lb aas expert mich29 is pimping her stuff

i do not work for whoever venus winkler is or andro factory

it's respectable that another company expresses their sympathy for a competitior...especially in this world...where some companys seem to be cut throat

[Airborne42]

Hmmm interested on what goes on in here... Bad news bout PP. God bless you guys

[sking6464]

i do not work for whoever venus winkler is or andro factory

it's respectable that another company expresses their sympathy for a competitior...especially in this world...where some companys seem to be cut throat

if only you knew how dirty they are
amazing you dont see through their bs 'condolences'

[DAdams91982]

you have to be kidding me. this is the "public apology" you PMed me twice about?

a) primordial's own privacy policy: "[Primordial Performance LLC is] the sole owners of the information collected on this site. We only have access to/collect information that you voluntarily give us via e-mail or other direct contact from you. We will not sell or rent this information to anyone." Primordial, not the individual owners, employees, contractors, ****buddies, or disgruntled former employees. Primordial owns the data.
b) primordial wasn't "over" or "divided" when you decided to spam a list that wasn't yours
c) CAN-SPAM violation much? the entire premise of protecting US from spammers like you, is authorization and consent. No authorization, no consent = SPAM
d) your "company" is a ****ing joke and if i cared about 10% more i'd negative seo your site to hell. PM me again and I'll make that a reality.

You know... I remember getting a BS AF SPAM email. I didn't realize there was a connection. I did report it as spam, and hope everyone else did too so they get blackballed by all major email providers if this really is their practice. Had I know I would have retained the email and reported the CAN-SPAM violation.

For future reference to anyone who feels they were violated in this way... here are the instructions to report to the FTC.

Report Spam

Forward unwanted or deceptive messages to:

• the Federal Trade Commission at spam@uce.gov. Be sure to include the complete spam email.
• your email provider. At the top of the message, state that you're complaining about being spammed. Some email services have buttons that allow you to mark messages as junk mail or report them spam.
• the sender's email provider, if you can tell who it is. Most web mail providers and ISPs want to cut off spammers who abuse their system. Again, make sure to include the entire spam email and say that you're complaining about spam.

[cswalczakny]

so this does appear to be legit. very unfortunate indeed

[JonRubio]

This is ridiculous

[Geoforce]

I'm lost. Androfactory got PP's e-mail list and spammed it? Or what?

[cswalczakny]

I'm lost. Androfactory got PP's e-mail list and spammed it? Or what?

Yeah. And now PP was raided by the FDA so AF is trying to grab as many of their customers as possible

[Geoforce]

Yeah. And now PP was raided by the FDA so AF is trying to grab as many of their customers as possible

So did PP give them the list or sell it to them or what? This giving happened a while back or recently?

[Royd The Noyd]

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[cswalczakny]

So did PP give them the list or sell it to them or what? This giving happened a while back or recently?

Was stolen by an employee I'm pretty sure

[Androfactory]

1 year ago on the opening of ANDRO FACTORY when Eric Potratz and Venus Winkler ended their 4 year relationship; intellectual property was shared as co owners of Primordial Performance and was divided. Customers where not happy that they were emailed under a new company name. ANDRO FACTORY erased all customer list from 2009 to 2012, about half a year ago to try and repair the situation. We apologize to anyone who felt as though their email was mishandled.