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    Gonna have to say, thanks to athletix, I got to try erase, and because of my erase experience, I now want to try more of their products... Hope they are as good as erase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Boerhaavia diffusa (Root) Extract





    Anti-Estrogen via direct Estrogen Receptor Binding

    B. diffusa showed potent competitive binding for the estrogen receptor in vitro. The result was less estrogen could bind to the receptor. By preventing E from binding to its receptor it cannot give its undesirable effects on the body.

    This is the same mechanism SERMs like Nolva use. As a result your body will signal for more testosterone release in order to hope to also increase estrogen. This is why we included an aromatase inhibitor in Erase Pro.

    (Sreekumar Sreeja, Sreeharshan Sreeja; An in vitro study on antiproliferative and antiestrogenic effects of Boerhaavia diffusa L. extracts Journal of Ethnopharmacology, Volume 126, Issue 2, 12 November 2009, Pages 221-225)



    Cortisol Modulation in the Animal Model

    Data shows that in a stress swim test, animals taking BDE (b. diffusa extract) did not see the significant estrogen spike that control groups saw. The BDE group also had 25% longer swimming times.

    Cortisol is the hormone released is stressful situations, especially during physical training. This catabolic hormone has the ability to break down muscle. BDE gives Erase Pro a true anti-catabolic mechanism

    (Meera Sumanth and S.S. Mustafa, Antistress, Adaptogenic and Immunopotentiating Activity Roots of Boerhaavia Diffusa in Mice, International Journal of Pharmacology 3 (5): 416-420, 2007)



    Diuretic Activity

    BDE has also shown to have direct diuretic activity. This fits perfectly in the goal of Erase Pro. Lean...Dry...Hard.

    (Gaitonde, B.B., Kulkarni, H.J., and Nabar,S.D. Diuretic activity of punarnava (Boerhaavia diffusa). Bulletins of the Haffkine Institute (Bombay,India) 1974; 2:24)


    Alpha-2 Adrenergic Antagonist

    You may be familiar with this mechanism if you have real about Alpha-T2, as it is the target pathway in Alpha-T2. Alpha-2 adrenoceptors are receptors in the stomach, love handles, and chest that when turned on are working to STORE fat in those areas. By inhibiting this enzyme you can turn the mechanism off. This is the key pathway to targeted fat loss, most especially belly fat.

    (Shigetoshi Kadota et al. Constituents of the Roots of Boerhaavia diffusa L. I. Examination of Sterols and Structures of New Rotenoids, Boerhavinones A and B; Chem Pharm Bull 37(12) 3214-3220 (1989) Vol. 37 No. 12)
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    I have only one request so far with erase pro ( which I started this morning). Enough with the blue caps everyone! Every supplement I get seems to be I. These things now. Bit confusing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I have only one request so far with erase pro ( which I started this morning). Enough with the blue caps everyone! Every supplement I get seems to be I. These things now. Bit confusing...
    LOL-i have a bunch of green/red and yellow pills i will trade for those!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I have only one request so far with erase pro ( which I started this morning). Enough with the blue caps everyone! Every supplement I get seems to be I. These things now. Bit confusing...
    I believe this is the only one in our linup that is blue now...

    But I see your point.. it is quite the common color for the supp world!
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    What about something like Magenta? It's magical.
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    Color doesn't matter, if it works as advertised I will be very happy with this. Curious how it would fit into as an AI for an AAS cycle?
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23
    What about something like Magenta? It's magical.
    Lol. I like that.

    Obviously not it doesn't matter. It just seems that everyone hopped on this color suddenly. Even my multi is blue now! :0

    It's confusing when I'm dumping my pill breakfast into my hand. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Lol. I like that.

    Obviously not it doesn't matter. It just seems that everyone hopped on this color suddenly. Even my multi is blue now! :0

    It's confusing when I'm dumping my pill breakfast into my hand. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982

    MMMmmm... pill bfast washed down with a hot cup of dunkin coffee!
    I would never sully my taste buds with dunkin's swill! Lol

    I get mine here.

    Www.uniquecoffee.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I would never sully my taste buds with dunkin's swill! Lol

    I get mine here.

    Www.uniquecoffee.com

    Yes,
    I'm a complete coffee snob.
    Ha.. I would have said Kaldi's.. but that is a local roaster that not everyone knows about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982

    Ha.. I would have said Kaldi's.. but that is a local roaster that not everyone knows about!
    Local is good. Proceed...


    Bisbee roasts to order and ships them the same day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Color doesn't matter, if it works as advertised I will be very happy with this. Curious how it would fit into as an AI for an AAS cycle?
    Interestingly when having a debate on the amount of colourings used in products one company rep/owner pointed out what colours have higher rates of placebo effect lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc

    Interestingly when having a debate on the amount of colourings used in products one company rep/owner pointed out what colours have higher rates of placebo effect lol.

    No joke.
    Lol. Did blue win by chance?
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    Red apparently. I didn't want to ask if that is why they used red lol.
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    P.S. no guessing please. I don't want to provoke an argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    P.S. no guessing please. I don't want to provoke an argument.
    Lol. Good call.
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    I'll be looking foward to giving erase pro a go in my pct after my AndroMass cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I have only one request so far with erase pro ( which I started this morning). Enough with the blue caps everyone! Every supplement I get seems to be I. These things now. Bit confusing...
    lol but they match the label!

    AnaBeta are orange and black...hows that for unique

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster

    lol but they match the label!

    AnaBeta are orange and black...hows that for unique

    Like eating a coral snake
    Lol. Being a printer myself I can certainly appreciate that! That's total packaging integration!

    I love the anabeta caps. Reminds me of candy corn. Yum!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I would never sully my taste buds with dunkin's swill! Lol

    I get mine here.

    Www.uniquecoffee.com

    Yes,
    I'm a complete coffee snob.
    Thanks for the link. I love a good cup o' joe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash

    Thanks for the link. I love a good cup o' joe.
    My pleasure. It's a small business. I really like dealing with him. If you have a problem you'll get a call from the owner himself.

    I highly recommend the Indian Mysore nuggets. Lol. **** is awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    My pleasure. It's a small business. I really like dealing with him. If you have a problem you'll get a call from the owner himself.

    I highly recommend the Indian Mysore nuggets. Lol. **** is awesome!

    I always try and support small business when I can. They usually have tighter quality control and superior customer service (well, the ones I would buy from at least). I'm going with 2lbs of Papua New Guinea Peaberry and 1lb of Peruvian Vida Alta to start. Love my dark roast.

    I watched a couple of his youtube videos guy looks like he puts a lot of work in with his coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash

    I always try and support small business when I can. They usually have tighter quality control and superior customer service (well, the ones I would buy from at least). I'm going with 2lbs of Papua New Guinea Peaberry and 1lb of Peruvian Vida Alta to start. Love my dark roast.

    I watched a couple of his youtube videos guy looks like he puts a lot of work in with his coffee.
    That Peruvian is good. He really does. I met in in AZ years ago. He's a stand up guy. Due to the small batches he gets things come and go. Watch for Honduras. It's amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    That Peruvian is good. He really does. I met in in AZ years ago. He's a stand up guy. Due to the small batches he gets things come and go. Watch for Honduras. It's amazing.
    Will do, Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    lol but they match the label!

    AnaBeta are orange and black...hows that for unique

    Like eating a coral snake
    Let's get back to something of substance; is ErasePro strong enough to be used as an on-cycle AI with something like Test E and Dbol? I know many use it who are on TRT on this board but I would like an answer to this from PES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Let's get back to something of substance; is ErasePro strong enough to be used as an on-cycle AI with something like Test E and Dbol? I know many use it who are on TRT on this board but I would like an answer to this from PES.
    What kind of doses are you talking about? 500mg-750mg of test and 50mg-80mg of Dbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny

    Let's get back to something of substance; is ErasePro strong enough to be used as an on-cycle AI with something like Test E and Dbol? I know many use it who are on TRT on this board but I would like an answer to this from PES.
    I'm curious on this as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    What kind of doses are you talking about? 500mg-750mg of test and 50mg-80mg of Dbol?
    500mg and maybe 40mg of Dbol starting week 5 if I have no sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    500mg and maybe 40mg of Dbol starting week 5 if I have no sides.
    starting the dbol @ week5?

    I think if it's just 500mg of test you can probably get away with just using Erase. I personally know of guys using 750mg of test-E every 8days with NO AI (during a recomp) but they could just be freaks.

    From my personal experiences with test and Dbol together, it would not be enough for me BUT I never took 3 caps at once like in Erase Pro.

    Definitely interested to see what the PES reps say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    starting the dbol @ week5?

    I think if it's just 500mg of test you can probably get away with just using Erase. I personally know of guys using 750mg of test-E every 8days with NO AI (during a recomp) but they could just be freaks.

    From my personal experiences with test and Dbol together, it would not be enough for me BUT I never took 3 caps at once like in Erase Pro.

    Definitely interested to see what the PES reps say.
    Dbol kicker is great if you have ran it before and know you have no sides. Also, once the test E is in full swing, throwing in an oral is perfect timing. THat is why guys run dbol for 6 weeks, the first two you have no test going unless you front-load so why not add in in week 4 or 5? Many guys over on the IML forum that are vets swear by this method, figured I know no different so why not try their proposed better plan .
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
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    Honest answer, nobody has used Erase Pro while on this cycle as far as I am aware.

    In theory, for some people Erase is strong enough as an AI while on cycle but I wouldn't be able to say for certain that it would be strong enough for your hormonal profile and your cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Dbol kicker is great if you have ran it before and know you have no sides. Also, once the test E is in full swing, throwing in an oral is perfect timing. THat is why guys run dbol for 6 weeks, the first two you have no test going unless you front-load so why not add in in week 4 or 5? Many guys over on the IML forum that are vets swear by this method, figured I know no different so why not try their proposed better plan .
    I wasn't trying to say you're wrong just I've never seen it done that particular way before. The way I did it, was from the very start for 4-5 weeks while the test loads so I start getting results from the dbols immediately and as I noticed the test I would taper off the D's. Worked pretty well for me in the past but that was a long while back and your plan does make sense too. Next on my list is a test e and masteron e cycle, since masteron has anti-estro properties itself. You going to log it if you try to use Erase pro on that cycle? I'd follow it
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    Got my bottle today
    now stacking with my Anabeta at 5 caps everyday!! Can't wait to see how this turns out
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    Got my bottle today
    now stacking with my Anabeta at 5 caps everyday!! Can't wait to see how this turns out
    same! except i'm dosing 4 caps off day, 5 caps on days (2 caps w/ pre workout meal)
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Let's get back to something of substance; is ErasePro strong enough to be used as an on-cycle AI with something like Test E and Dbol? I know many use it who are on TRT on this board but I would like an answer to this from PES.
    So dose dependent and user dependent. Some guys get bloated from 300mg test...some can take a gram and not have a single worry about gyno. jasen used erase with a cycle, his bloodwork is floating around.

    My thing with AIs though is that they should be used from the beginning. Ive never been a fan of only using them once you start getting sides and need one. Then you end up playing catch up and are trying to smash your estrogen to get a lump to go away that may have never been there in the first place


    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    Got my bottle today
    now stacking with my Anabeta at 5 caps everyday!! Can't wait to see how this turns out
    Quote Originally Posted by j1mb0 View Post
    same! except i'm dosing 4 caps off day, 5 caps on days (2 caps w/ pre workout meal)
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    Can erase be taken with thyroslim pm at bed? I'm asking bc of the cleansing ingredients in thyro, I don't want to mess w absorption of the erase

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    So dose dependent and user dependent. Some guys get bloated from 300mg test...some can take a gram and not have a single worry about gyno. jasen used erase with a cycle, his bloodwork is floating around.

    My thing with AIs though is that they should be used from the beginning. Ive never been a fan of only using them once you start getting sides and need one. Then you end up playing catch up and are trying to smash your estrogen to get a lump to go away that may have never been there in the first place






    Let us know how you like it!
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