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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    We're going to start working on this, everyone. I'm so tired of the bullsh*t broscience with those that think they have a clue how the hepatic/portal system works; or the pathophysiology involved.

    We're going to bring together the medical professionals (like myself) to set it straight; this includes the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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    Sounds awesome. I'm an IT guy, so it's hard for me to judge what's bs and what's legit from reading all of the medical claims out there. I do try to go to pubmed to get some info, but even some of the jargon is over my head

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    a topical AI

    lv based protein (humapro like)

    joint support

    topical nutrient repartitioner

    oral sleeping aid ( not the tea )

    that's all for now

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    Topical nutrient repartitioner...

    Could you expand upon this a tad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Topical nutrient repartitioner...

    Could you expand upon this a tad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Sounds awesome. I'm an IT guy, so it's hard for me to judge what's bs and what's legit from reading all of the medical claims out there. I do try to go to pubmed to get some info, but even some of the jargon is over my head
    Reading studies can seriously drive you insane sometimes. I have to read studies on a daily basis, some of it supplement based, but of the research is based on human behavioral studies. Believe me...reading the stuff constantly is a good way to fry your mind out and then its like everything is way over your head...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamBoz19 View Post
    Reading studies can seriously drive you insane sometimes. I have to read studies on a daily basis, some of it supplement based, but of the research is based on human behavioral studies. Believe me...reading the stuff constantly is a good way to fry your mind out and then its like everything is way over your head...lol.

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    i think the mood enhancement/focus category is going to expand in the future, would love to see an offering to compliment endoamp...

    speaking of which, would love a capped version (though i do dig the taste) of EA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Who would like me to put together some detailed and intricate information on AAS/Drug metabolism; as well as the associated GI physiology/pathophysiology (absorption/utilization/etc) with taking supplements or AAS? This also includes the different drug delivery modalities and what liver function enzymes actually indicate based on the presenting findings.

    No theory here, just FACTS from someone who actually works and has clinical/research experience in medicine.

    I have plenty of good info to help demonstrate how these processes work and how some of the advice given on these forums is flat out dangerous and reckless.

    I'd like to hear some science-based or bodybuilding-based education/research topics as well that you'd all be interested in seeing from our team.





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    Here is my thought though it has been mentioned I believe:
    PWO that is basic with a simple stim complex such as 100 mg caffeine + 25 mg methyl-synephrine (so you can take 2 scoops no problem for AM workouts), Creapure, Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate and some GPLC or AgroCarn. That is all you need or if you want to get more pump just add GMS. Make 2 scoops pretty hefty and put 30-40 servings in a tub for less than $35.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Here is my thought though it has been mentioned I believe:
    PWO that is basic with a simple stim complex such as 100 mg caffeine + 25 mg methyl-synephrine (so you can take 2 scoops no problem for AM workouts), Creapure, Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate and some GPLC or AgroCarn. That is all you need or if you want to get more pump just add GMS. Make 2 scoops pretty hefty and put 30-40 servings in a tub for less than $35.
    The price of a clinical dose of GPLC for 40 servings alone would cost more than that price, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    The price of a clinical dose of GPLC for 40 servings alone would cost more than that price, unfortunately.
    I was thinking it was an option to add, hence the agro-carn suggestion and CM in its place. The dose of those does not have to be huge, make it enough to be useful in one scoop and very noticeable in two scoops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Here is my thought though it has been mentioned I believe:
    PWO that is basic with a simple stim complex such as 100 mg caffeine + 25 mg methyl-synephrine (so you can take 2 scoops no problem for AM workouts), Creapure, Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate and some GPLC or AgroCarn. That is all you need or if you want to get more pump just add GMS. Make 2 scoops pretty hefty and put 30-40 servings in a tub for less than $35.
    ArginoCarn, BA, creatine, and a basic stim complex would be pretty cost efficient. IDK the exact numbers, but it wouldn't be outlandish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81 View Post
    How about a super efa/antiox blend *with something like astaxanthin* that could accommodate vitaberry.
    good idea brther.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    ArginoCarn, BA, creatine, and a basic stim complex would be pretty cost efficient. IDK the exact numbers, but it wouldn't be outlandish.
    You are catching my drift Rodja. I don't care if I have to add my own pump product or just put some GMS in it since it is dirt cheap. It would be similar to what Omega did with Flashover when they have a flagship product like Ultima (or in the case of PP, PreMax).
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    You are catching my drift Rodja. I don't care if I have to add my own pump product or just put some GMS in it since it is dirt cheap. It would be similar to what Omega did with Flashover when they have a flagship product like Ultima (or in the case of PP, PreMax).
    ArginoCarn, GPLC, and a piece of ThermoGum is what I'm using for pre-WO. I don't like to use a ton of stims close to training. I did however get in a kilo of BA to add to the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Topical nutrient repartitioner...

    Could you expand upon this a tad?
    sorry, been busier than monica in the white house


    basically a nutrient repartitioner that would "inject" nutrients to what ever area is applied. I had the basic formula developed and was in testing but had to cut it short due to adaptability. I know PP could do it, go back to your roots and release TD products (formestane )
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    Can we get a PP super multi vit ?
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    What about a multi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCunningham View Post
    Can we get a PP super multi vit ?
    I like this idea a lot, a super well dosed multi that focuses on what most bodybuilders lack. Zinc, Magnesium, B Vits, D3, Selenium things like that, and a sweet antioxidant group to go with it.
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    No company that I'm aware of has ever developed an effective transdermal product for men who have slight gyno or chest fat.

    I'm thinking of a transdermal that delivers localized (not systematic) fat burning plus an AI (and/or SERM?). If any company can delivery such a product that actually works, it is Primordial Performance.

    You could literally corner the market ... and it would sell very well. Heck, guys would buy it just to have on hand just in case.
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    L carnitine l tartrate in bulk powder, or a blend of carnitines like beverly nutritions quadrocarn, but in liquavade, and make it tast like tcf-1. And a nutrient repartitioner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I like this idea a lot, a super well dosed multi that focuses on what most bodybuilders lack. Zinc, Magnesium, B Vits, D3, Selenium things like that, and a sweet antioxidant group to go with it.
    For comparable prices to ADAM, with as good if not better raw ingredients. They have every nutrient in a good absorbable forms! Id by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WheyGood View Post
    No company that I'm aware of has ever developed an effective transdermal product for men who have slight gyno or chest fat.

    I'm thinking of a trandermal that delivers localized (not systematic) fat burning plus an AI (and/or SERM?). If any company can delivery such a product that actually works, it is Primordial Performance.

    You could literally corner the market ... and it would sell very well. Heck, guys would buy it just to have on hand just in case.
    I agree with this one, DHTcream is absolutely wonderful for gyno ( it's called andractim and widely used in europe but just not hear )

    So PP, I'm asking in a @$$backwards way, a possible dht cream or something better as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WheyGood View Post
    No company that I'm aware of has ever developed an effective transdermal product for men who have slight gyno or chest fat.

    I'm thinking of a trandermal that delivers localized (not systematic) fat burning plus an AI (and/or SERM?). If any company can delivery such a product that actually works, it is Primordial Performance.

    You could literally corner the market ... and it would sell very well. Heck, guys would buy it just to have on hand just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WheyGood View Post
    No company that I'm aware of has ever developed an effective transdermal product for men who have slight gyno or chest fat.

    I'm thinking of a transdermal that delivers localized (not systematic) fat burning plus an AI (and/or SERM?). If any company can delivery such a product that actually works, it is Primordial Performance.

    You could literally corner the market ... and it would sell very well. Heck, guys would buy it just to have on hand just in case.
    I am 110% with this suggestion more than my own. I would look so much more defined in chest if I could lose some fat in that area, harder to get rid of then love handles/lower abs.
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    I would love to see a night-time sleep aid in the LV family. Hops, Valerian, and Chamomile would be nice. No melatonin, though. Iíve tried the tea; however, with the LV technology, it would be nice to not down a bunch of fluid (with tea) 30 minutes prior to bed. Just an idea, but I would be the first in line to purchase such a product.
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    Sleep aids are amongst the most underrated supplements out there.
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    build on the liver juice....and since i'm dealing with it now....a blood pressure juice, then sell them as a stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Sleep aids are amongst the most underrated supplements out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Sleep aids are amongst the most underrated supplements out there.
    Agreed. I refuse to take synthetic compounds, and stick to taking only the aforementioned Hops, Valerian, and Chamomile. It works great for me. I also take ZMK, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Premax is the none stim prew/o


    Are you looking for a stim pre w/o?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
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    The name of the thread is "Primordial Performance wants to hear what type of products you'd like to see from us?" so if that's what he wants then so be it! The dude has to get up early to work his a$$ off all day and you say its a personal problem? PP asked and he answered, mind your business!
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    This thread is becoming very lol-zy.
    Just inject.
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    where is their preview of their upcoming products?


    I thought they dc'd all hormonals are they making more?
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