- 08-09-2004, 07:28 PM
- 08-09-2004, 08:30 PM
I had to custom order some. They gave me an ETA of 30 days so they can work out the bugs. I have no problem with this, as I would like a pure product more than I would a fast, dirty one. all the other nootropics should be in by 7-15 days.
- 08-10-2004, 12:51 AM
08-10-2004, 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
I didn't know that Rizzer ever got it in. I know that he has been trying for quite a while...but did he finally do it?
08-10-2004, 10:44 AM
PiracetamOriginally Posted by fieyaa
08-10-2004, 01:35 PM
I've seen these compounds other places, but was really never very interested in them. Which one(s) would you experienced guys recommend for a noonewbie to try? I'd like something that just gives an enhanced feeling of well-being. Nothing too hardcore and I'm not interested in a narcotic affect. Just a simple mood lifter. Any recommendations?
08-10-2004, 02:06 PM
08-10-2004, 02:06 PM
none of these will give you a narcotic affect in any way. no recreational drug value at all. don't be scared. my personal philosophy with nootropics is less is better and try to stay with herbals rather than synthetic chemicals. for a newbie like you, i recommend Rhodiola Rosea, Piracetam, Vinpo, and chocamine. try it, you'll luv it!Originally Posted by diamonddave
08-10-2004, 02:22 PM
Anything to make me think quicker and add focus?
Have to take the LSAT October 2nd, and each point is a battle
Mainly reasoning stuff where you have to keep a bunch of stuff on a complex timeline straight in your head, evaluate causal relationships, etc.
08-10-2004, 02:36 PM
08-10-2004, 02:37 PM
Rhodila is supposed to be fantastic in the right doses. Some people have claimed they use a high does of it instead of SSRI's (ant-depressants).Originally Posted by diamonddave
08-10-2004, 07:08 PM
08-10-2004, 07:45 PM
08-10-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by cr4ytonic
Noops are highly indivdual. Doses are totally different person to person. I would start with something simple like piracetam or pramiracetam (if it's cheap enough) and stack it with a good choline source. From there you could get crazy and stack just about everything listed on Custom's list and then some. Some believe that frontloading piracetam is necessary. I've tried both ways and find that when I frontload, I go through a foggy phase then have to reduce in order to get any cognitive enhancement. These drugs definitely work but take weeks to really get rolling. You also have to take them religiously at first.
DiamondDave - you are seemingly looking for something to aid with anxiety? At least that's the way that I took your comment. If so, Phenibut works wonders for that. But do not take it for a prolonged period or overdose it. The desired effects will wear off and you will also have withdrawals if you do not taper off.
For anxiety/stress, take 500mg when you are feeling stressed. I just use it as a last resort and always get a good feeling of well being.
08-16-2004, 11:51 AM
08-16-2004, 12:58 PM
08-16-2004, 01:44 PM
I've used Piracetam and Vinpo with choline. I really like the piracetam alot. Almost immediate effects. The most obvious outstanding effects are the vivid dreams. THese all work well and help with short term memory.
08-16-2004, 03:00 PM
I can focus and concentrate better on Pira, it seems to do this without amping me up at all..in fact I'm usually calmer. Adding Vinpo really seems to quicken my thought processes even more.
08-16-2004, 03:11 PM
Ive been doing piracetam at about 4 grams a day, but due to my schedule, I have to take it all at once. I do notice I am able to read through stuff without my mind wondering like it usually does. I personally cannot wait to try the others as I have hard times concentrating on things that I really need to.
08-16-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by custom
GEEZ...you aren't experiencing any fog from 4 grams all at once? I would at least spread it out Why not cap it and just take a few pills.
OK..alright...here's the math
OO caps hold about 800mg when tamped. So you'll need 5 capsules
08-16-2004, 11:33 PM
08-16-2004, 11:54 PM
08-17-2004, 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by fieyaa
If your powders have absorbed a little moisture is will make a difference. 600 - 800mg is the ball park. I just loaded 800mg (packed the **** out of them) pir/anir/Alpha GPC into OO the other day for my GF.
I was just being a smart ass
But I still think that 4 grams at once is a lot. I've tried it before and was pretty foggy. But hey...we are all different.
08-17-2004, 10:54 AM
I was going to cap me some, but that got pushed to the bottom of my to-do list with a few other things. SOmetimes it gives me a headache, other times it makes me feel pretty good.Originally Posted by SJA
08-17-2004, 05:54 PM
I usually take my 2-3 gram dose all at once. Rarely have any issues but I'll carry a choline cap with just in case.
08-17-2004, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE]Phenibut will put you on your ass and make you try to hush all of Long John Silver's puppies if you over dose it. This is some strong stuff, the closest I've ever felt to a narcotic out of all the OTC neuro's.Originally Posted by SJA
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
08-17-2004, 09:04 PM
I was reading somewhere that these OTC drugs will only work if you haven't already burned out your receptors with illegal or other heavier drugs. Is this true? Has anyone who has used heavier drugs in past tried these OTC and got results? .........How much you paying for that Phenibut?
08-17-2004, 10:54 PM
http://smi2le.biz/ has a good price as does 1fast400. I've read many threads where people with long histories of drug use have still benefited from phenibut. But it seems that these same users eventually overdose it (bad habits I guess) and ended up with a multitude of problems. I, personally, use it (as does my G/F) as it was meant to be used. ~500mg when I feel anxiety symptoms, have to go to a function that I don't like, or just to reduce stress. So maybe once or twice per month at that dosage. I dont get a "buzz" like the guys dumping down 3 grams of the **** but that's not what I'm after. I do, however, feel relaxed and more social. It happens every time so I know that it works well for me.Originally Posted by Manwhore
hope this helps
08-18-2004, 02:35 PM
1fast has 75gr for $20, I'm sure that if you dose it after a 4wk "cycle" of Valium then yeah the effects will be rather weak. If its been a while since these drugs where consumed then it still works fine.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
08-18-2004, 10:56 PM
Yeah that's what i'm talking about. Let's just say i did my share of partying in the past. thanksOriginally Posted by prld2gr8ns