Kicking the new year off with Protomax
- 12-31-2010, 11:25 PM
Kicking the new year off with Protomax
Alright so as the post says, starting Day 1 of Protomax tomorrow. I will be logging my progress weekly. Just wondering what is the deal with the label saying it may cause drowsiness? Has anyone encountered this? Also, does anyone out there know the approx 1/2 life of Proto? I am really hoping for some nice clean gains. My diet is extremely clean and strict.
Clen (i know its not either a PH or DS)
Anadraulic State GT
Magnesium Creatine Chelate
Nolva: 40/40/20/20 (i may use Clomid for the first 3 days for LH stim)
Diesel Test Hardcore
T-911 (only on occasion for libido)
Clen (to maintain high caloric intake w/o gaining unwanted lbs)
In the rare case that i get gyno symptoms i have Letro and arim on hand.
- 01-01-2011, 01:08 AM
Nobody reported drowsiness, dont remember why that was on there, and I cant remember the half life, but I will be following along, please keep us updated. Lean, solid, realistic muscle gains are what proto is all about, some people expected 20 lb gains like sd, only to loose more than half of it in pct, and I'll take solid, sustainable, realistic gains everytime over the bloat/loss effect with some phs.PHF Rep
- 01-01-2011, 01:23 AM
01-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Obviously no changes will be occurring after the first dose. Mainly just logging so I get in the habit and not flake out. I will try to get some before and after pics on here in the near future.
Just out of curiosity, how fast acting of a compound is this? I am hoping by the end of week 2 to start seeing some small-moderate changes but not holding my breath, I know these things take time and will not lose patience or faith in it. Also I havent seen this but has anyone reported any significant shutdown at the end of their proto cycle?
Well, stuck at work and its time for round one of tilapia, brocolli, 1 Tbsp of MCT oil and sweet potatoes...my next post will more than likely be Saturday night with any updates on sides/results.
01-04-2011, 10:57 PM
01-05-2011, 03:35 PM
yeah i really am, will try and post some pics when my wife gets back in town. Ill be honest, getting the time to take pics, is pretty difficult with a 12 hour work day and a 5 month old kid who is teething, but i will do my best to get them up.
01-05-2011, 03:44 PM
Alright just a little update, on the cycle:
Nothing really significant yet, starting to notice a little more vascularity in my chest, traps, shoulders and waistline. Overall feeling pretty good, strength is still the same. Still too early to tell anything significant. Hopefully will have a better write up next week. After all im only in the 5th day of the cycle.
So far no negative sides at all. No drop in libido (thankfully!), no back pumps, no lethargy.
I have been having a difficult time getting the motivation lately, probably due to the low carb intake right now, not drastically low, but low enough to tell.
I guess i shoulda posted goals for the cycle in the first post, my bad. I am in the process of cutting, possibly for a show coming up in March in AZ. Still on the fence whether or not i wanna compete, i am having a hard time finding a solid coach.
01-05-2011, 03:52 PM
one question, is this a clean bulk? recomp? or cut?
other than that im in this
The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.
01-07-2011, 11:37 PM
I'm in on this also. I am on day 8 of Proto myself and veins are really starting to pop across my shoulders and chest. I'm on a light cut trying to get back around 10% so lack of carbs is making it to where i still need a pre w/o but besides that I'm liking it.
01-10-2011, 11:20 AM
01-10-2011, 12:26 PM
01-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Sorry for not being as active on this as i had originally planned, but life happes. I will do my best to update as much as possible though.
This is for a cut...that being said it may have to be cut short now, i have to go to my orthopedic surgeon for to further evaluate a prior pectoral rupture. Unfortunately i have been having some pain along the insertion point of the tendon. Hopefully it is nothing serious and i can continue, otherwise might be out of the game for a few weeks.
Quick update on the cycle.
So far, i am loving it, just about the end of week 2. Even though my carb intake is pretty low right now i am still holding muscle while dropping fat. No crazy results or anything yet though.
Sides: only one...libido drop...not good...
I am thinking about changing up some things in my PCT, not sure though. I was considering dropping the Diesel Test/Lean FX and running DAA/Titanium/Erase any thoughts on this.
01-13-2011, 07:09 PM
Damn, sorry to hear about your rupture causing this to get cut short. Let us know how you make out.
Also, as far as pct changes, that DAA/Titanium/Erase should prove very good and I definitely recommend giving that a try. Good luck.
01-15-2011, 08:00 AM
I am running the exact same cycle at the moment. I was curiuos why you would run Nolva dose so high in PCT? I ran Proto before a few months ago at low dose but didn't really respond but I refuse to believe that IBE doesn't make a good product so I am running it again at a higher dose. Have you been able to find any blood work for this product? Side note- for what ever reason Anadraulic State GT monkeyed with my libido?
01-15-2011, 10:53 AM
1- Nolva has been shown to be a human carcinogen, therefore I would stick with Clomid therapy. You (orig poster) could stick to 20/20/20/20 nolva, with 1 week of Clomid 100 or 50mg daily.
2- A cycle being either a bulk or cut is solely based on diet during the cycle, and amomatase use
The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
01-15-2011, 11:25 AM
Being that this is such a mild compound was why I was asking I have Nolva on hand and I am going to run TRS with mine. If I don't have to use the Nolva would be fine with me that was why I was asking from what I gathered from my first run with this is that it is very mild and when I have asked others they said the TRS would be fine by itself. Its hard to find a lot of info on this.
01-15-2011, 12:01 PM
Alright, so definitely issues with the ligaments in my pec, so gotta call it quits pretty early on this one. Really sucks, but life always seems to throw a curve ball now and then. Just gotta get better than ill be back in the game. PCT now is going to be extremely mild, clomid: 100mg week 1, 50mg week 2 with Diesel Test HC as test booster. Thanks for reading this while it lasted. Sorry i couldnt keep it going longer. Once im back in the saddle will let yall know! I will still be training just to maintain while i am recovering. I have plenty of rehab in the upcoming weeks.
01-15-2011, 01:35 PM
01-15-2011, 05:03 PM
01-15-2011, 05:08 PM
01-16-2011, 01:42 PM
The last cycle I ran ended in August so I think I should be alright. Thanks for the insight and I hope your recovery is quick and easy.
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