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    Wink Sureshot's (IBE-PROTOMAX) Excursion


    First off I want to give a "BIG" thank you to RoadBlock and the entire staff of IBE for making this log possible.

    For those unfamiliar with the supp. it's a resurrection of Protodrol

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    Today was my last preloading day, and will be starting cycle tomorrow. Was waiting on my Liver Juice and Prime to arrive as it did this morning.
    Lookin so forward to this run, and will be nothin but honest to the upmost even though it's a sponsered run.

    My goal for this run basically is to attain more strength & body mass with an increase of around 8-10lbs when it's all said and done

    For those interested to seeing how this goes feel free to take this ride with me, for you are all welcomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    First off I want to give a "BIG" thank you to RoadBlock and the entire staff of IBE for making this log possible.

    For those unfamiliar with the supp. it's a resurrection of Protodrol

    Ingredient Profile:

    17a-methyl-5a-androst-17b-ol 25 mg.

    And those familiar with the infamous Epistane and the legendary Formex know first hand or by word of mouth that IBE put's out nothing but "heat rocks" or in lament terms "the hottest stuff out"

    Cycle Support Supps:

    Cycle Assist
    Liver Juice(2 bottles)
    Opti-Men
    Creatine Mono
    Multi Pro Whey
    Animal Flex

    Post Cycle Support:

    ReversitolV2
    TestobolanV2
    TCF-1
    Liver Juice
    Prime
    Creatine Mono
    Opti-Men
    Animal Flex
    Multi Pro Whey


    Today was my last preloading day, and will be starting cycle tomorrow. Was waiting on my Liver Juice and Prime to arrive as it did this morning.
    Lookin so forward to this run, and will be nothin but honest to the upmost even though it's a sponsered run.

    My goal for this run basically is to attain more strength & body mass with an increase of around 8-10lbs when it's all said and done

    For those interested to seeing how this goes feel free to take this ride with me, for you are all welcomed.
    Nice set up guy !

    Looks like you're pretty well covered.

    You posting up any before and after pics ??
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    Thanks fellas for the support.. And sorry for not post anything yesterday. Had a last minute opportunity to make some extra cash painting someones house, so yall know i couldn't past up on making some extra duckets, then took family to pool and dinner but i did take my doses of Protomax(ha-ha) but didn't get to get a work out in so i had to extra hard today to make up for it.

    Day2:

    Weight: 241 lbs

    My excercise routine consists of various calisthenic excercise, dips, push-ups(various)pull-ups(various), sit-ups, etc, etc.

    And dumbell excercises: preacher curls, hammer curls, flat chest flies, lateral raises, etc, etc.


    Will be rating in terms of:

    Strength
    Muscle Fullness
    Libido
    Pump


    So i was able to put in a solid 2 hour run this morning with the calisthenics and dumbell excercises. Obvious nothing to note just yet for it's only my third dose of the Protomax, but i'm going to give it about a week at 50mgs. and see how it plays out then i'm going to take it through-out at 75mgs. if i feel the 50mgs. is not doing me any justice, which in return will shorten my cycle but at least i can still give you a solid detail of the supp and how it performs. Stay tuned guys the best is yet to come. i have great faith in IBE and what it's brung to the supplement world thus far, but i'm only on my second day and can't say much in regard to the effects of the Protomax, and like i said i'm going to keep it a hundred(real) with everyone throught the entire cycle and not make any false claims even though it's a sponsored run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    interested and curious. count me in
    no question fightbackhxc, i'm going to step it up a notch to 75mgs. starting monday to put this bad boy in full gear mode and take flight from there, this is just the calm before the storm dosing at 50mg
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    Day 3:

    Today after my morning dose i put in an hour just on calisthenics and haven't felt anything out of the ordinary just yet, but after my evening dose during my hour run with the dumbells i felt the extra pump starting to kick in, which led to add a few more reps to my sets. so now i'm amped that the protomax has actually kicked in so fast. Then later on in the evening i'm watching tv an start to experience the re-bar like erection effect kickin in also, and it's a friday(yeah-boy) that's what i'm talkin about(no-homo) guess it's "HAMMER-TIME" tonight. Now i'm wondering if i should still up my dosage to 75mg. or keep it at 50mg? Cause i was going to start at 75mg. on monday, but i have 2 more days to see what happens till then. I'm going to be running this everyday with no days off. I know some do 5 days on with 2 off, but i'm going balls to the wall with this one.
    Sorry to cut this post short but it's about to be "HAMMER-TIME" so i'll get back at yall later. This nut(S) is for you IBE
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    Day 6:
    Weight: 244lb(+3lbs)

    Yall know the drill as far as my excercises are concerned as i stated previously, it's strictly calisthenics and dumbell excercises.

    Strength:
    is definitetly up and i've been able to add about 2 more sets to each excercise, and i'm feeling the soreness in my arms as i type, so i might just be able to get my calisthenics in and hold off on the dumbells tomorrow.

    Muscle Fullness:
    Starting to notice and feel a lil more fuller, but then again i did put on 3lbs. from my start day, so that could be it also, along with me having to kind of force myself to eat, because far some reason i haven't been getting as hungry as i normally do, but being i'm on a bulk and i'm trying to take full advantage of this Proto run, i gotta do what i gotta due, even if that means force feeding myself.

    Libido:
    i would say a lil above baseline, but nothing crazy. Though when i do get an erection, it has been it's harder than usual, that i've noticed.

    Pump:
    hell yeah, that's why i'm sore as a biatch right now and could feel it as i'm typing, might have to take a day off to recoup, cause i been going hardbody for the last 5 days straight. My veins on my biceps are starting to show alot more than usuall also.


    I've upped my dosage today to 75mg. 2 upon waking and 1 evening, which is probably why i went so hard this evening with the dumbells. They felt a lil lighter and with that extra pump kickin in i was able to add in a few more sets.

    So with all being said and done thus far it seems the PROTOMAX, is most definitetly doing it's thing in terms of deliverence, and being i went 6 days straight workin out and supplementing i might just take 2 days off to recoup, so that i don't over do it.

    Sidenote:

    I traded with one of my comrads my tub of LG's ASGT for his Methyl Mass yesterday, and it definitetly took my workout up notch, though i'll never be able to compare it to the ASGT for i never got a chance to try it, but for the most part the Methyl Mass, is no joke, i was definitetly in a zone, and the focus was unbelievable. Stay tuned yall.......
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    Hmmm........75mg, I think you're the first to up the dosage, interested to see how this works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Hmmm........75mg, I think you're the first to up the dosage, interested to see how this works for you.
    yeah but i've decided to just play it safe after today and keep it at 50mg. being that i am very pleased with the results thus far.
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    Looking great in here suresha!
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    Day: 9
    Weight: 244lbs.

    Strength: Still seems to be on the incline thus far, which is leading me to get in some good solid workouts, giving me that alpha-male feeling afterwards (ha-ha) true story!!


    Muscle Fullness: No question!! arms and chest is looking crazy swole, at least they feel that way(ha-ha) but seriously, i saw wifey looking at me yesterday as if she's noticing a difference in my physical appearance.

    Libido: Still nothin crazy, it's still at base or slightly above, but i'm still anticipating that aspect of effect, for i see alot are reporting theirs to be highly increased during their run, and i know that's one of the highlights of this supplement but guess mine hasn't fully kicked in just yet

    Pump: Definitetly there, that's why i've been sore for the last 3 days. I've been going extra hard when it comes time to put that work in, and i think that's been one of the highlights so far since i've been taking the Protomax, but then again so has all of the above been highlights of the Protomax.



    The only side so far has been the decrease in appetite, but i remedy that by force feeding myself to eat as i normally do, especially being that i'm looking to bulk during this run, which i'd been able to put on 3lbs. so far and it's only my 9th day in. So if i can add about 6 or 7 more before it's all said and done my goals would have been accomplished during this run.
    But so far so good, IBE.
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    Day: 11

    Weight: 244lbs.

    Starting to really dig this Protomax as i do Epistane. Loving this alpha male effect. All my body(muscles) wants to do is work out, real talk. Took my first dose this morning and in the middle of doing some cleaning of the house, i just put that on pause and put in a solid hour with the dumbells. I was planning on making a purchase on some supplements for a birthday gift to myself, and i may just wind up getting another bottle of the P-Max, i don't know, my body is taking a big liking to this supp. But then again there's a ph i've been wanting to try for awhile and so now i'm kind of caught in the matrix on deciding on which to go with, but Friday i'll be submitting an order for some supplements, so i won't know for sure till then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Strength: Increase seems to be staying on the up and up, not saying that it keeps increasing with each dose, but it's been up since i've been on the P-max, along with the urge to want to work out. It's as if my muscles have a mind of their own cause even if i'm not in the mood to work out, mindwise, my body(physical) wants to go in and get busy. And that's been the case since i've been taking the P-max.

    Muscle Fullness: Rounding out pretty nicely, and looking alot more vascular. Like i said my veins are showing alot more than usual and that's also without working out and more when i do. IBE you're on to something great with putting this supplement out on the market. I wonder if this will stack well with your Epi or as a bridge?

    Libido: Erections have been no-joke with the throbbin and extra blood-flow taking place. Libido i noticed yesterday up a notch, so i hope it's the P-max taking it's course, cause i was thinking of reachin in my stash, to take something during cycle to sustain the libido aspect, but hopefully i won't have to. But for some reason i've noticed on Fridays i turn into a complete horndog which last through-out the weekend, then it's back at baseline


    Pump: Holdin up nicely. Continually able to add a few more reps to all my excercises, and the focus is up also, where i'm more in the zone while i'm doing my thing.


    So for now everything is "LOVE" as far as my experience on the P-max. Like i said haven't been experience any crazy sides except for the decrease in my normal appetite, but that's nothing, i love food so i'm constantly stuffin my face, so I'm not complaining.

    Still able to put on 3lbs. since taking the P-max, so it's all good. Got to somehow see if i can get an extra 5lbs added to that 3 during these next 2 weeks, and feel i'm going to accomplish that, so consider it done. But don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, but my determination is strong.

    IBE just want to salute you again for making this experience possible. Can you answer that question for me about if p-max can be stacked or bridged with your Epi? cause i'm placing an order this Friday on some supplements. Thanks IBE
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    Gratz' on the weight gain bro, GL with the next 5lbs! I've actually lost 1 lb. since the start but I'm looking much more full.
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    Damn man !

    I'm digging the straight forward log so far buddy

    Seems like the Proto is really starting to kick in full force as well

    The libido kicking up during cycle really has me looking forward to running this soon, the last thing I want is shut down
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    Sorry i'm late, but want to see the results bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
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    Can you answer that question for me about if p-max can be stacked or bridged with your Epi? cause i'm placing an order this Friday on some supplements. Thanks IBE
    Can you, should you, would I, does IBE recommend it, would anybody else do it??

    I dont think anybody from IBE is going to recommend it, Im not going to tell you go ahead and stack it at this point, without having first hand knowledge of it, and without getting some feedback on the sides, although based on what I know so far about its mildness, I would certainly stack it, what the hell, you only live once, can you bridge it, sure you can bridge anything, people have bridged pp and sd together, should you do it, absolutely not, you are making gains at 50mg, you can tailor the dosage a little if gains slow, and you could always take it out a few more weeks(should you buy another bottle, as you said) I think you should save the epi for another cycle, but thats my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Can you, should you, would I, does IBE recommend it, would anybody else do it??

    I dont think anybody from IBE is going to recommend it, Im not going to tell you go ahead and stack it at this point, without having first hand knowledge of it, and without getting some feedback on the sides, although based on what I know so far about its mildness, I would certainly stack it, what the hell, you only live once, can you bridge it, sure you can bridge anything, people have bridged pp and sd together, should you do it, absolutely not, you are making gains at 50mg, you can tailor the dosage a little if gains slow, and you could always take it out a few more weeks(should you buy another bottle, as you said) I think you should save the epi for another cycle, but thats my opinion.

    At the moment I'm still tossing supps at the wall to see which ones stick, but at the moment I'm considering a P-Max/D-Zine bridge or P-Max stacked with Mass Addiction. Still have about 3 days to decide but for certain P-max is a go for sure.


    Was kind of out of it today, possibly do to sunburn from spending weekend at the beach, so i kind of just laid back at the crib with the ac on blast, stuffing my face and relaxing, trying to get my weight up. That's why there wasn't any log today, but will definitetly be back on my grind tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    At the moment I'm still tossing supps at the wall to see which ones stick, but at the moment I'm considering a P-Max/D-Zine bridge or P-Max stacked with Mass Addiction. Still have about 3 days to decide but for certain P-max is a go for sure.
    good log so far bro. but just a suggestion it would be pointless to stack a test booster with a PH so i wouldnt stack proto with mass addiction
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    sanchez my brotha, what's goodie? it's been a while.
    Thanks for the enlightment, i'm going to have to x that idea(P-max/mass addiction) off the consideration list then, if that's how you feel, you know how i respect your intellect when it comes to this whole ds/ph. phenomenom. Consider it scrapped.

    Thank you again sanchez for lookin out and for the check-in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    sanchez my brotha, what's goodie? it's been a while.
    Thanks for the enlightment, i'm going to have to x that idea(P-max/mass addiction) off the consideration list then, if that's how you feel, you know how i respect your intellect when it comes to this whole ds/ph. phenomenom. Consider it scrapped.

    Thank you again sanchez for lookin out and for the check-in.
    yeah no problem , that d-zine/proto looks pretty good tho
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    yeah that combo looks likes it's going to be the one then
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    I'm a little late to the party but very interested in getting more information on Protomax. It's looks like things are going great so far. Can you comment on and side effects at this point (specifically hair loss)?
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    the only side i've experienced and i'm not even sure if it would be considered a side is that i feel as if the p-max has been suppressive on my appetite, other than that everything else seems to be non-existent. but i do have 2 more weeks to go so anthing is possible, but at the moment my hair line seems to be unaffected, thank God, good thing though is that i stay with some toco-8 in the stash to remedy that, if that was ever the case. been on a few other harsher ds/ph's cycles before and the toco-8 did it's thing as far as keepin the hair line on point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    the only side i've experienced and i'm not even sure if it would be considered a side is that i feel as if the p-max has been suppressive on my appetite, other than that everything else seems to be non-existent. but i do have 2 more weeks to go so anthing is possible, but at the moment my hair line seems to be unaffected, thank God, good thing though is that i stay with some toco-8 in the stash to remedy that, if that was ever the case. been on a few other harsher ds/ph's cycles before and the toco-8 did it's thing as far as keepin the hair line on point.

    Good info about the hairline, I know a few people were concerned about that, and I was curious as well, although its low on my list of things to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    the only side i've experienced and i'm not even sure if it would be considered a side is that i feel as if the p-max has been suppressive on my appetite, other than that everything else seems to be non-existent. but i do have 2 more weeks to go so anthing is possible, but at the moment my hair line seems to be unaffected, thank God, good thing though is that i stay with some toco-8 in the stash to remedy that, if that was ever the case. been on a few other harsher ds/ph's cycles before and the toco-8 did it's thing as far as keepin the hair line on point.
    Thanks for the feedback on the sides...glad you haven't experienced anything to this point. I'll be following along as I'm planning on doing my first PH cycle in the next few weeks and it looks like it will be Protomax for sure.
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    Day:16
    Weight: 245lbs.(+4lbs.)

    So i actually went up a lb. according to the scale this morning, totalling a solid 4lb. increase from the start date while on the p-max, which isn't too bad, considering i haven't experience any sides at all thus far.

    Strength: Seems to be on the incline still, though i had up'd the dose since yesterday. I'm now dosing at 50mg. in the am, 45 minutes before workout, and another 25mg. in the evening.

    Muscle Fullness: Vascularity has kicked in big time, which i noticed today after my morning session and want to say that upping the dose to 50mg. before workout seems to be the way to go. I think i've discovered my sweet spot while on the p-max to be at 50mg. during morning session and another 25mg. during my evening session(am calisthenics-pm dumbells)

    Libido: Definitetly has increased as well as erection firmness. Like I previously stated the erections have been like re-bar ever since i started taking p-max and thought that it would taper off but that hasn't been the case, it has the been the total opposite. And the boys look alot fuller and heavier too. Maybe that's culprit for the 1lb. increase this week(ha-ha)

    Pump: Loving it, in and out of the bedroom. Still able to get a few more reps out of each excercise which has been leaving crazy sore but still able to get a good work out the next day. Which is where i think the more vascularity has been coming from. The focus, desire(hunger) and determination during my sessions has been phenomanol. This has got to be one of the highlights i'm diggin the most out of the p-max. It seems to keep you in that "alpha-male zone" where there's no stoppin. Can't wait till tomorrow when wifey hands over that credit card so that i can make that "Birthday" purchase for myself, for i got my next cycle all planned out; and let's just say Protomax is defintetly involved.

    So as of yesterday just keep in mind yall that i've found the sweet spot to be at 75mg. which i'll be dosing from here on out. 50mg. was great but i think at 75mg. it's even gotten better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    the only side i've experienced and i'm not even sure if it would be considered a side is that i feel as if the p-max has been suppressive on my appetite, other than that everything else seems to be non-existent. but i do have 2 more weeks to go so anthing is possible, but at the moment my hair line seems to be unaffected, thank God, good thing though is that i stay with some toco-8 in the stash to remedy that, if that was ever the case. been on a few other harsher ds/ph's cycles before and the toco-8 did it's thing as far as keepin the hair line on point.
    I agree with ya on the hairline issue, mine looks good still. (knock on wood )
    The lack of appetite seems weird to me because I am starving constantly! I wish I had more food/money, I would make this an all-out bulk
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    i've noticed though bowskie, that when i eat full meal prior to dosing, i'm able to maintain my normal appetite and am able to get my eat on, at times i was dosing with only having a protein shake in my system, and thats when i noticed i wasn't wanting to eat like i normally would. so lately i've been dosing after meals, which is what i should of been doing from the rip. but you know the drill, we live and learn.........
    how's that p-max treating you, brah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suresha View Post
    i've noticed though bowskie, that when i eat full meal prior to dosing, i'm able to maintain my normal appetite and am able to get my eat on, at times i was dosing with only having a protein shake in my system, and thats when i noticed i wasn't wanting to eat like i normally would. so lately i've been dosing after meals, which is what i should of been doing from the rip. but you know the drill, we live and learn.........
    how's that p-max treating you, brah?
    Maybe that's the key to ProtoMAX, lol. I take proto and wanna eat everything I see soon after.
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    Day: 18
    Weight: 245lbs.

    I'm questioning if i'm going to achieve my goal on this run in attaining those 10lbs. But if i don't, I'm completely satifisfied with everything else i experienced on this P-max run thus far. Put in my order yesterday for another bottle of p-max along with another compound for a bridge run in late October. And i know for sure being i know what to expect from the p-max, that i those 10lbs. will be a walk in the park to achieve.


    Strength: still up during workouts, along with the lasting muscle hardness throughout the day. Still dosing at 75mg. but today for the first time felt really lethargic, so i had to reach for a stim. Could of been from lack of rest from too much partying yesterday being it was my 37th Anniversary of my born day but was still able to go hard during todays session

    Muscle Fullness: still presentable to the upmost, due to the strength increase and extra pump that comes along from the p-max, and it certainally gotten better when i upped my dose to say the least.

    Libido: not out of control, but seems to be getting to that point, but then again for some strange reason it always seems that way during the weekend

    Pump: in full effect mode for sure, that's why i said earlier if i don't get to attain those 10lbs, i'm content with what i have gotten out of the p-max so far from the afore mentioned above, plus no sides, what's to complain about? Workout's have been nothing but intense while on the p-max, and that derives strictly from the product. it seems once the p-max runs it's coarse it gives your muscles a mind of their own when it comes to the intensity of the workouts, real talk people, i'm not trying to bs anyone. that's one of the highlights of this supplement. If you don't believe try it for yourself. For those who had their run with IBE's Epi, Formex and their other products, know that their product deliver quickly and with quality results.

    So for those interested i suggest you get you some and see for yourself, you wont be disappointed
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    Happy belated Birthday !

    Thanks for keeping such an informative log for us so far buddy !

    I'm glad IBE picked such a great group of loggers to keep us all updated on their results with the new product
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    Happy belated Birthday !

    Thanks for keeping such an informative log for us so far buddy !

    I'm glad IBE picked such a great group of loggers to keep us all updated on their results with the new product
    Thanks AK, appreciate that.
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    Thanks for the great log and good to hear your making some positive gains! Are you still dosing at 50mg or did you bump to 75mg?
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    i bumped it up to 75mg. i believe on Thursday and paused from Sun-Mon. to give the liver a break and still felt as if i dosed on both days...Now that's "WHAT'S UP"

    Day: 21
    Weight: 245lbs.

    Took Sunday and Monday off to give the liver a break, but boy did i still feel as if i had dosed. Workouts were just as intense, real talk, no bs. Could be cause i been dosing at 75mg. and have been going extra hard during my sessions, but still was suprisingly shocked with the outcome.


    Strength: still elevated, even with 2 days of no dosing, and with todays dose it just becomes icing on the cake.


    Muscle Fullness: yes sir, shirts starting to feel out very nicely around the chest and arm area, and i'm diggin the semi veinly bicep action, lol(ha,ha). that might sound cliche' but it's the honest truth. and those aren't the only things filling out, no-homo. lol


    Libido: is on overdrive and working overtime, it's feeling like "Mighty Thor" down below. Yall need to peep game and get that protomax and see for yourselves, if i'm lying i'm dying.
    i gotta co-sign with "bigt" on this being a bit more superior than h-drol, hands down!!


    Pump: still going at it vigorously and being able to continue puttin out the extra sets.


    Picked up some serious mass yesterday at vitamin shoppe to increase my calorie intake, so from here on out it'll be 5000+ during the remainder of the cycle, which should both finish at around the same time. 1 serving after dinner and 1 before bed...

    I'm gettin to that 10lb. mark 1 way or the other,lol
    till next time.......................... .....................


    Oh by the way, is it possible to up the ante to 90 pills per bottle(as per Epi) over the 60, so the people dosing at 75mg. could get a solid 4 weeks or if dosing at 50mg. get a thorough 6 week run?

    Don't mind that ?, i'm just (wishfull) thinking out loud.
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