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  1. Formex Write-up.


    IBE Formex (Formestane-MCPE)

    -Rapidly Decrease Estrogens
    -Skyrocket Testosterone Levels
    -Ferociously Increase Libido
    -Greatly Increase Free Test – Lower SHBG
    -Ether Technology Prevents Rapid Breakdown

    The same company that brought you new innovations like acetylated resveratrol, 2-bromomelatonin, and Epistane IBE is proud to announce its latest innovation: Formex. The wait for the most potent anti-estrogen ever to hit the market is over. Formex is a revolution in the battle against estradiol because it utilizes one of the most potent second generation steroidal aromatase inhibitors and supercharges it by rearranging the 17B-hydroxyl group to give you the longest lasting, legal anti-estrogen. This rearrangement, called methylcyclopentyl ether (MCPE), is what allows for the incredible increase in bioavailability, allowing for a smaller dose with much greater testosterone boosting and estradiol reducing effects. Don’t waste your money on regular formestane, which hastily breaks down in the body, experience IBE Formex and take your body to the next level!

    What is actually in Formex?
    Formex contains the MCP ether of formestane. The chemical name is 4-hydroxy-17B-(1'-methoxy)-cyclopentoxyandrost-4-en-3-one. As you can see Formex is not methylated as many of the harsher oral prohormones have become recently. Formex also does not need to be cycled because besides its potent anti-estrogen activity it is also mildly androgenic, which allows Formex to regulate proper HPTA function without suppression.

    Is Formex better than regular Formestane?
    By far! IBE has corrected the problem with traditional formestane products; low bioavailability. With Formex you can now rest assured that your liver is not rapidly degrading your anti-estrogen before it ever reaches systemic circulation. How does this work? Formex resists biodegradation with a dual shield. The first defense is evasion. Typically when something is ingested it is carried through the stomach and into the small intestine where nutrients are absorbed and brought into circulation for processing. The vein responsible for this is the hepatic portal vein (HPV). As the name implies it brings blood directly to the liver for processing and is the site of regular formestane biodegradation. However, there is a loophole in this defense. The more lipophilic (fat loving) a substance is the lower the chance of it entering the HPV and the greater the chance of it entering lymphatic circulation. Since ethers cannot Hydrogen bond and a hydrocarbon group has been added, it becomes much more lipophilic. These substances can enter lacteals, make their way into the lymphatic system, bypass the liver, and reach systemic circulation before ever seeing the first sign of hepatic metabolism. This means not only can you get greater estradiol suppression but for a much longer period than before. The second defense is the MCPE in the 17b position. This group protects itself from cleavage because it is large and bulky and repels the enzyme responsible.

    What can I expect with Formex?
    With Formex you can expect to feel your libido skyrocket and watch your bloat dwindle away. Plus, Formex is not only an anti-estrogen but it also has mild anabolic properties that allow for strength and muscle gains, as well as a heightened ferocity in the gym. On cycle you can expect to see a hardened physique and greatly reduced risk of forming estradiol-induced gynecomastia.

    When should I use Formex?
    Formex can be used anytime that you would like greatly increase your testosterone levels, decrease levels of estradiol, and increase athletic performance.

    ON CYCLE AND PCT: It can be used on cycle to reduce the bloat associated with aromatizing compounds or to prevent estradiol-related gynecomastia. Formex can also be used in PCT to prevent valuable testosterone from converting to estradiol. It is important to understand that the dosing regimen for Formex is much different than traditional formestane. Since it lasts longer in the body, it requires less frequent doses. In studies of cycloalkyl ether derivatives of estradiol, researchers found that these highly lipophilic substances were capable of being stored in fat and create a time released effect. Other studies have shown that formestane given parenterally at a mere 250mg inhibited the activity of aromatase >85% for 2 weeks! Since Formex enters systemic circulation similarly to formestane given parenterally you can achieve maximal results without the use of transdermals or injectables.

    BRIDGE: One of the most effective uses for Formex is using it as a bridge between cycles. No need for a full, all out PCT between cycles, use Formex while recovering and prevent muscle wasting, while keeping libido elevated.

    STANDALONE: Formex can be used as a standalone product to help maintain your gains throughout the year, decrease fat accumulation, keep you shredded for the summer, or give you the extra boost you need whether it be in the gym or the bedroom!

    TRT: Formex can provide valuable protection against gynecomastia for those on TRT. The risk of gynecomastia while on TRT is greatly increased as the body adjusts to its surroundings by increasing circulating levels of CYP (aromatase) to combat the rapid rise in testosterone levels.

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  2. YES!!!!!!!
    Finally a formestane product with good bioavailability

  3. Yup!!
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  4. subbed for further discussion...

  5. I am really looking forward to this one. I personally love formestane, and if like it says I could run it every day with out adverse effect (although I highly doubt that), I don't think I would need much more (except for some occasional superdrol). Hoping for the best!

  6. with the increased bio-availability i'm interested in seeing the dosing protocol recommended for those on cycle, pct, and stand-alone cycles.

    also, i would assume we should expect the same impact on cholesterol and triglycerides that regular formestane would exert?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Hank Vangut View Post
    with the increased bio-availability i'm interested in seeing the dosing protocol recommended for those on cycle, pct, and stand-alone cycles.

    also, i would assume we should expect the same impact on cholesterol and triglycerides that regular formestane would exert?
    why must you ruin this for me?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by RUNNER 67 View Post
    why must you ruin this for me?
    no, not trying to ruin any excitement. just wanting to learn more.
    i love formestane and am very much looking forward to this product as it seems have some serious potential.
    i'll probably purchase this once it is released to give it a try.

  9. If you are on cycle the last thing you need to worry about is high cholesterol from Formex. PH's are going to throw your lipids well out of range and the extent to which formestane would elicit the same effect is like throwing a match into a house fire and saying it contributed. As for being off cycle and taking it, the transient rise in testosterone levels would not affect anyone to any great extent. Testosterone levels will rise and with it lipid levels but considering lipid levels of those who are on TRT for life, it isn't much of a concern unless someone has familial hypercholesterolemia or some other very high cholesterol disease state or is at risk for a heart attack, etc. With that being said I wouldn't recommend any supplements for someone who is much older and has skyrocketing cholesterol levels.

    The positives of this far outweigh any negatives. In fact it surprises me that ATD has been around so long. ATD actually acts as an antagonist for the androgen receptor and blocks testosterone from binding. Who in their right mind would use an anti-androgen in PCT?!
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  10. This looks like a quality product! if I were a guy I would be very interested in using this.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    PH's are going to throw your lipids well out of range and the extent to which formestane would elicit the same effect is like throwing a match into a house fire and saying it contributed.
    nice analogy!

    after pct i tested with extremely low hdl but it was probably a result of the cycle and then heavily using atd (not form) in pct didn't help let my levels recover.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    If you are on cycle the last thing you need to worry about is high cholesterol from Formex. PH's are going to throw your lipids well out of range and the extent to which formestane would elicit the same effect is like throwing a match into a house fire and saying it contributed. As for being off cycle and taking it, the transient rise in testosterone levels would not affect anyone to any great extent. Testosterone levels will rise and with it lipid levels but considering lipid levels of those who are on TRT for life, it isn't much of a concern unless someone has familial hypercholesterolemia or some other very high cholesterol disease state or is at risk for a heart attack, etc. With that being said I wouldn't recommend any supplements for someone who is much older and has skyrocketing cholesterol levels.

    The positives of this far outweigh any negatives. In fact it surprises me that ATD has been around so long. ATD actually acts as an antagonist for the androgen receptor and blocks testosterone from binding. Who in their right mind would use an anti-androgen in PCT?!
    Well said LMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Hank Vangut View Post
    nice analogy!

    after pct i tested with extremely low hdl but it was probably a result of the cycle and then heavily using atd (not form) in pct didn't help let my levels recover.
    This has happened to me too, but I think mine was actually from the Tamoxifene.
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  13. Nice thread.


  14. ETA still ~2wks

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    ETA still ~2wks
    Counting down the days
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  16. Not a bad setup thus far, glad to see something from you guys...at one point I thought you guys had abandoned us.


  17. HDrol + Formex

    That seems to be a good mild cycle, dry and without sides (no hairloss, low hepatic toxicity, no gyno...).

    I must try that!!!

  18. Is this (or indeed, any formestane) OK to use directly before a cycle? Dr. D suggested AFTER a cycle (not after PCT in an inverse taper), due to suppressed HPTA it may be less effective. I can't think of why it would have any effects immediately before a cycle, unless perhaps it is something aromizing that could estrogen rebound?

  19. There's no reason you couldnt use formex before a cycle
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  20. That's what I thought - thanks.

  21. How do you take formestane powder, mix it with water?
    I've been told that it should be taken trandermally.

  22. I've read the price will be around 30$, is it true?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bubble boy View Post
    How do you take formestane powder, mix it with water?
    I've been told that it should be taken trandermally.
    What?
    We sell an oral Formestane product with an ether attachment.
    Clarify your question a bit more please.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    I've read the price will be around 30$, is it true?
    This is true. We are hoping to get this into Nutra in the future. The first run is limited, so stock up.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    Not a bad setup thus far, glad to see something from you guys...at one point I thought you guys had abandoned us.

    I was thinking the same thing..I'm looking forward to this product, thanks for looking out for us guys.

    Just seen the write up on a website regarding this product, maybe I skipped it but how long will it be on presale? I'm thinking of purchasing a few bottles next week friday and I'm hopping to still get presale. If not I'll just bute the bullet and grab five haha.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    What?
    We sell an oral Formestane product with an ether attachment.
    Clarify your question a bit more please.
    I have purched some Formestane and was asking on another thread how to take it such as mix it with a shake or water or fill your own pils. Someone replied that it is not particularly effective orally and is best transdermally

  27. Quote Originally Posted by bubble boy View Post
    I have purched some Formestane and was asking on another thread how to take it such as mix it with a shake or water or fill your own pils. Someone replied that it is not particularly effective orally and is best transdermally
    Exactly! You bought Formestane Powder that will need to be cooked up and placed into a bottle of Penetrate. Damn - good luck!

    That's the OLD way to take Formestane. The new way is to just take 1-2 pills a day. We made Form friendly to your gut! Read the write-up (very first post). Any questions, please feel free to PM me.

  28. Yup, that's exactly what I was looking for but never using it before I screwed up. If you can tell me who makes it and what the name is I'll order it up today.

    Thanks for the help

  29. Thanks!!

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  31. any idea on the effects of dosing a little more aggressively with this product. Have heard anecdotal reports of higher dosing of transdermal route had increased recomp effects. Would be the same with this product, and if so would it be wise to taper down dosage?

  32. Theoretically, there's a ceiling effect with how much an AI can reduce estrogen. So once it hits that ceiling, you can double, triple and quadruple dose with no increase in effectiveness in that realm. At the same time, form has a ton of other benefits so there could be potential for further manipulation of DHT, igf, free test, etc. Maybe with a bit of a risk of increasing the potential for engogenous suppression though

    In my experience, I liked effects at about 160-200mg per day transdermally. I've went up to 300mg a few times and honestly didn't see much difference past my "sweet spot" dosing. The dosages will be different with the new delivery system. But I bet the concept will still hold that everyone will just find their preferred dosing without needing to go super high.

  33. thanks celc, the most I heard ran was int he 200-250 mgs per day transdermal range and users did report nice changes in body comp. I think I saw where the recommended dosage was 50mgs/day with Formex?, cant remember where, I was thinking in the 75-100 mgs/day range

  34. Stick with 25-50mg/day
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  35. One pill is 25mg, so 2.25mg/bottle? Not bad for the price even compared to bulk form + carrier for a transdermal, before considering bioavailability. Plus no mucking around with sprays or lotions.

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  37. Hey natty/Iron, I'm getting ready to place my preorder of Formex and I was wondering how many mg's are in each cap and how many caps per bottle. Trying to figure out if I need 2 bottles or 3. Thanks

  38. Quote Originally Posted by spectre23 View Post
    Hey natty/Iron, I'm getting ready to place my preorder of Formex and I was wondering how many mg's are in each cap and how many caps per bottle. Trying to figure out if I need 2 bottles or 3. Thanks
    There are 25 mg per cap, but I am not sure how many caps there are per bottle. I believe that there are 90 caps/bottle, but I will have to double check with Lungz.

  39. How exactly does Formex inhibit DHT formation?

  40. ok, I was wrong on the 90 caps/bottle. It is actually 60 caps/bottle.
  

  
 

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