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  1. would i put on more weight on the epi cycle just dirty bulking and eatting mcdonalds and burger king?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by qnzlilshotta View Post
    would i put on more weight on the epi cycle just dirty bulking and eatting mcdonalds and burger king?
    depends. if you're eating healthy at mcdonalds/burger king you could - by that i mean a grilled chicken sandwich with no mayo. if you mean fries, NO you will not put on more muscle. burgers are somewhere in the middle - the sodium content is pretty undesirable.



    just remember that food is the anabolic. everything else might help you put muscle on faster, but food is the equalizer. post your diet for me if you have the time
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  3. Yeah, anabolics help utilize macronutrients better by enhancing its abilities. That's why so many people when their using they utilize a high protein, moderate fat, moderate carb diet. The anabolics help flood muscles with macronutrients to help repair, rebuild, and grow muscles better and faster by allowing the person to utilize its properties better. We all know that protein is the key nutrient in muscle growth. That's why burgers would be a better choice than fries.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    depends. if you're eating healthy at mcdonalds/burger king you could - by that i mean a grilled chicken sandwich with no mayo. if you mean fries, NO you will not put on more muscle. burgers are somewhere in the middle - the sodium content is pretty undesirable.



    just remember that food is the anabolic. everything else might help you put muscle on faster, but food is the equalizer. post your diet for me if you have the time

    Wake up at around 10:00-10:30
    Breakfast around 10:45-11:00am

    1 Epi Cap

    Whole Wheat Bagel With Creme Cheese(Lots of Carbs!!!)
    50G ON 100% whey Protien w/ Graham Crackers/Peanut Butter/Cycle Support
    with the milk and all extras thrown in there probably getting about 65g of protien in the shake

    or

    2 Whole Eggs Scrambled w/ 2 slices of whole wheat bread
    My protien Shake

    or when im in a rush

    A bowl of cereal
    and my protien shake

    Drink Lots of Water while working

    Lunch Around 3:00

    1 Epi Cap

    Pasta!! from the Cafe at Work
    Pene a la Vodka
    or
    Baked Ziti
    or
    Lassagna
    or
    Chicken Cutlet

    if im Tired of Italian food ill order some Chinese Food

    Chicken and Broccoli w/ Brown Rice
    or
    Beef and Broccolie w/ Brown Rice
    or
    Pepper Steak w/ Brown Rice

    Bottle of Water.
    MAybe a Fruit Salad here and there.

    Dinner around 5:30-6:00

    1 Epi Cap

    My mom makes the best dinner but everyday its something different

    Usually Some rice with chicken or beef on the side...and veggies...one day itll be lima beans another day yuka, another day grean peas, spinach, and the list goes on..

    Gym around 7:00

    After the gym
    50g ON 100% Whey w/ Graham Crackers/Peanut Butter/Cycle Support/ maybe a banana thrown in there.. with the milk and all extras thrown in there probably getting about 65g of protien in the shake

    about an hour later Wheat bread with turkey maybe another bagel with cream cheese..or reheat some left over food from my moms cooking..

    Drinking about 1 gallon of water everyday

    Sleep at around 1 or 2 am

  5. its all right to eat mcdonalds 2X a week..dont worry..i do
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  6. my balls are getting smaller and smaller by the day!!! hating it theyre about the size of 50 cent gum balls. not wanting to have sex with a few of my hoes lol..just getting embarassed....cant wait for pct or imagine how much smaller theyll get withen week 3 and 4. anyone recommend throwing in some dhea

  7. i think you should have waited till you were 200 naturally. then go on something

  8. its pretty hard getting to 200..if it was really that easy i wouldve done it already. ive been lifting for 5 years and started getting serious the last 2 years.

    wondering if i threw in USP Labs JACKED into my PCT as a PreWorkout drink any effects with my PCT or Nolva? ive heard many great reviews on this product thought id give it a try in PCT

  9. Quote Originally Posted by qnzlilshotta View Post
    my balls are getting smaller and smaller by the day!!! hating it theyre about the size of 50 cent gum balls. not wanting to have sex with a few of my hoes lol..just getting embarassed....cant wait for pct or imagine how much smaller theyll get withen week 3 and 4. anyone recommend throwing in some dhea
    Damn, really? Most users report an increased libido and mood.
    But, everyone reacts differently...
    You could add some DHEA to the mix. Do you have any Sustain Alpha or regular Dermacrine?

    Let me know if you have any other questions.
    Subscribed for the ride - good luck.

  10. you should get some serious pounds on epi..good luck. and train hard doin 8 to 10 reps. Push till you puke.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Damn, really? Most users report an increased libido and mood.
    But, everyone reacts differently...
    You could add some DHEA to the mix. Do you have any Sustain Alpha or regular Dermacrine?

    Let me know if you have any other questions.
    Subscribed for the ride - good luck.
    i did notice an increase in libido and def a increase in mood but my boys def did shrink...as well as acne...ill try to get some dhea from the pharmacy tonight hpw much should i be dosing?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by qnzlilshotta View Post
    i did notice an increase in libido and def a increase in mood but my boys def did shrink...as well as acne...ill try to get some dhea from the pharmacy tonight hpw much should i be dosing?
    I'm not at liberty to say, really. DHEA is not something that I have ever used, so for me to give you advice would be wrong. However, look up a veteran poster here (Force Of Green). Give him a PM... he has experience with DHEA.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    do not eat fast food/empty calories. just saying you might want to bump your clean calories up a bit.
    i agree as soon as increased my cals i gained some good weight i started seeing my best results at the end of my sec week but i ran my epi cycle alittle hard. epi is great i like it alot its was the first ph ive done.

    gl on your cycle hope you gain a lot!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by qnzlilshotta View Post
    i did notice an increase in libido and def a increase in mood but my boys def did shrink...as well as acne...ill try to get some dhea from the pharmacy tonight hpw much should i be dosing?
    Dehydroepiandrosterone
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    Dehydroepiandrosterone
    Systematic (IUPAC) name
    3-hydroxy-10,13-dimethyl
    -1,2,3,4,7,8,9,11,12,14,15,16
    -dodecahydrocyclopenta
    [a]phenanthren-17-one
    Identifiers
    CAS number 53-43-0
    ATC code A14AA07
    PubChem 76
    ChemSpider 5670
    Chemical data
    Formula C19H28O2
    Mol. mass 288.43
    Physical data
    Melt. point 148.5 C (299 F)
    Pharmacokinetic data
    Bioavailability ?
    Metabolism Hepatic
    Half life 12 hours
    Excretion Urinary:?%
    Therapeutic considerations
    Pregnancy cat.

    ?
    Legal status

    Commercially available
    (US), Rx Only (CA)
    Routes Oral

    Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) is a natural steroid hormone precursor (prohormone) produced from cholesterol by the adrenal glands, the gonads, adipose tissue, brain and in the skin (by an autocrine mechanism). DHEA is the precursor of androstenedione, which can undergo further conversion to produce the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol. DHEA is also a potent sigma-1 agonist.[1]


    i look it up before id started take it. i took 25mg a day while on my cycle but i agree ask someone that know more about it.
    hopefully some of this info can help u alittle

  15. DHEA is a good anticatabolic to take while your doing a pulse cycle and PCT. It "fills in the gaps" on those off days plus is good to take post workout as well. People kinda confuse this as an anabolic because its conversion to androstenedione. But, if anyone has ever taken andro, you'll know that the effects of DHEA are nothing in comparison to andro. It's mainly useful to people over the age of 30 since DHEA decline severely at that age and beyond.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull View Post
    DHEA is a good anticatabolic to take while your doing a pulse cycle and PCT. It "fills in the gaps" on those off days plus is good to take post workout as well. People kinda confuse this as an anabolic because its conversion to androstenedione. But, if anyone has ever taken andro, you'll know that the effects of DHEA are nothing in comparison to andro. It's mainly useful to people over the age of 30 since DHEA decline severely at that age and beyond.
    since im not doing a pulse would it give me any positive effects in anyway while on cycle?


    im gonna purchase a weight gainer to help me up my calorie intake anyone suggest a cheap and good with a decent amount of servings weightgainer? ive used muscle juice before aswell as cytogainer..

  17. I heard dhea turns into estrogen. I wouldnt touch it.
    I think im gonna try H drol next

  18. Quote Originally Posted by qnzlilshotta View Post
    since im not doing a pulse would it give me any positive effects in anyway while on cycle?


    im gonna purchase a weight gainer to help me up my calorie intake anyone suggest a cheap and good with a decent amount of servings weightgainer? ive used muscle juice before aswell as cytogainer..
    I heard good things about Mass-tech from a friend. Have not tryed it though.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by logan91077 View Post
    I heard good things about Mass-tech from a friend. Have not tryed it though.

    yea i was taking a look at the ingredients of mass-tech looks pretty good! after reading a few forums up here just decided to make my own weight gainer shake which im sippin on right now before going to bed...

    1 1/2 cup grated oats-450cals 81carbs 7.5g fat 15g protien
    1 Table Spoon Peanut Butter-95cals 3carbs 8.5g fat 3.5g protien
    2 Scoops ON Chocolate Protien-240cals 6 carbs 2g fat 48g protien
    3/4 Cup Water
    1/2 Cup Whole Milk-75cals 6 carbs 4g fat 4g protien
    Few Ice Cubes to chill it up
    AI Peanut Butter Cycle Support
    -------------------------------
    Total Calories: 860
    Total Carbs: 96g
    Total Fat: 22g
    Total Protien: 70.5g

    Not bad for a post workout shake just hate the fact that its verythick maybe ill use a bit more water next time
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    Quote Originally Posted by qnzlilshotta View Post
    yea i was taking a look at the ingredients of mass-tech looks pretty good! after reading a few forums up here just decided to make my own weight gainer shake which im sippin on right now before going to bed...

    1 1/2 cup grated oats-450cals 81carbs 7.5g fat 15g protien
    1 Table Spoon Peanut Butter-95cals 3carbs 8.5g fat 3.5g protien
    2 Scoops ON Chocolate Protien-240cals 6 carbs 2g fat 48g protien
    3/4 Cup Water
    1/2 Cup Whole Milk-75cals 6 carbs 4g fat 4g protien
    Few Ice Cubes to chill it up
    AI Peanut Butter Cycle Support
    -------------------------------
    Total Calories: 860
    Total Carbs: 96g
    Total Fat: 22g
    Total Protien: 70.5g

    Not bad for a post workout shake just hate the fact that its verythick maybe ill use a bit more water next time
    Sound like that should work just fine. Also nice because its all stuff you already have in the kitchen, no need to spend more $ if you dont have to

  21. I think any hormone based PH/AAS/DS has potential to convert into a small percentage of estrogen. When you take too much of these hormones that either raise or replace your own natural production of test, you get a rebound effect that causes your body to release estrogen. Based on my experience, it seems this is more true if you abuse the crap out of these phs or DSs and take amounts that are way above normal limits.

  22. just bumped up my dosage to 40mg today ..im actually 3 days early and def felt a great pump at the gym today. i want to get the bottle finished with and jump into pct. so i can get my balls back to normal sizeee ive noticed an increase in body acne i think ill go tanning tomorrow to dry out the acne.

    anyone think i should throw in jacked by usp labs into my pct as a pre workout drink or is that too much stress on my body?

  23. So what else is new? More vascular? Mood? etc......? How's the weight gain? Fat Loss? Just I few I'm curious about.

  24. ive always been pretty vascular so vascularity isnt really a big change. my mood is great when i take this stuff. i feel like im the mannn!! ill get on the scale tomorrow and see how much weight ive gained but last time i checked it was about 5-7 lbs.dont really know about fat loss. im already skinny enough im pretty much trying to bulkk. the pumps are ok...no crazy strength increases but i feel like an energizer bunny at the gym i can do workout after workout with out taking 3 min breaks as i used to...the only neg i give epi is the acne...i hatteee it!!!! also think im started to grow thicker hair on my body

  25. Have you got a serm lined up? I'm thinking of pulsing this stuff, since serms for me are difficult to get hold of/expensive. I've been on toremifene but still a bit unsure with it, that sh*t is potent.
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