Check out my diet
- 04-20-2008, 09:37 PM
Check out my diet
My BMR is approximately 2950-3300
1) no veggies. Are they really that important? Lol I know they are. It's not that I don't like them, I just hate preparing them and they fill up my stomach so much. Say I did get some, a 'mixed bag', how much would I need to eat to not feel guilty about not eating any?
- 04-20-2008, 10:12 PM
Dude gotta get some veggies in there! Steamed broccoli is really easy to make and tastes like nothing...
Also, 80g of protein in one sitting is a waste no? I don't think that our bodies use that much at one time. Steady consumption of 30-40g is what I usually see recommended.
- 04-21-2008, 12:34 AM
04-21-2008, 01:23 AM
04-21-2008, 11:00 AM
You know there important lol.
Honestly I went through a lazy period of eating no veggies and then recently got back into having 3 servings of broccoli or asparagus a day (and one before bed) and I can honestly say my overall bodily functions and feeling was tremendously improved.
Raw broccoli isn't always the easiest thing to get down but if you have the time you really should.
04-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Hello, all...I'm gonna use this opportunity to introduce myself as I'm new to posting, although I've been reading for a while. Most everyone here seems like good people! Y'all have made me feel welcome without even saying it.
Rugger, I'm no nutritionist, but I've learned a thing or two planning my own meals. I work an average of 12-16 hours a day ...sitting in a car no less... I'm NOT a natural meal planner, and I definitely don't have time for cooking. My advice is to get creative with your veggies. It doesn't always have to be a filling chore to eat them.
I enjoy fresh snow peas, celery, baby carrots, green peppers, cucumbers, cherry tomatoes, heck I'll even eat full-size tomatoes like apples from time to time (call me crazy for that, my friends do...)
But seriously, depending on the meal, I'll eat my proteins/fats/carbs then munch on whatever vegetable I've packed. I stick to veggies that are good fresh -- might be something to try. Little or no prep!
Last edited by TheStu; 04-21-2008 at 05:48 PM. Reason: typo
04-21-2008, 06:21 PM
You need at lease nine servings of fruit/vegetables per day. Reasons being that they are powerhouses of well-absorbed nutrients and fiber.
I used to eat like that, the way your diet looks. Changing it was the best thing I have done so far. Vegetables( celery, brocolli, green beans, cauliflower, SPINACH (love dat iron!) ) and fruits (fruits not so high in sugar like berries and apples) heat your furnace to better burn fuel/absorb fuel/secrete the by-products of that fuel. Your "engine" will run clean. TRY IT.
Other than that, looks good. Protein/Complex carbs are high, but you gotta get that furnace fired up to burn em'. just my .02.
04-21-2008, 06:22 PM
04-21-2008, 06:25 PM
oh, and why no red meat? don't eat that fish and turkey grounds too much. they ain't got nothin' on that slab o' beef, homie!
04-21-2008, 06:37 PM
Also, I'm not positive about fiber breakdown from cooking, but it would seem that the fresher the better (at least as far as veg are concerned). Though epixep mentioned steamed broccoli, which is always good.
Seems like a waste of time (& $) to me to take some canned vegetables and microwave the **it out of 'em LOL yuck I'm having nightmarish flashbacks to my childhood, "EAT YOUR PEAS!"
04-21-2008, 06:44 PM
yeah, you should just eat cardboard if you eat canned veggies. don't get me wrong, they may still be A BIT good for you, but a lot is lost in the way of good and gained in the way of bad (sodium). heck, frozen ain't even that great. i advocate fresh fresh fresh. they seem to burn best when they're fresh and still 'alive.' we know what's good!
04-21-2008, 06:47 PM
04-21-2008, 06:52 PM
While it may not be as beneficial, they do make supps (ex. juiceplus+) that have the same nutrients as a couple of servings of veggies. It's not the same, but it may be a good transitional supp for you. It would definitely let you see/feel what you're missing (and if you want to start using)
"yeah, you should just eat cardboard if you eat canned veggies." - this is an ignorant statement
04-21-2008, 08:04 PM
I'm not taking havoc yet, I'm just planning a diet so I have it ready. I don't start for another 15 days. The reason I don't have red meat in there, is well because I like fish and chicken more! The fish is fresh so it's got loads of nutrients.
As far as veggies, okay fine. Pick me one of two fresh veggies that would be the best overall package and EASY TO PREPARE/STORE. I'm not concerned with the calories in them, they are just very filling and I know I'll already have a hard time putting down what is listed above.
04-21-2008, 08:28 PM
It's like driving across the state on a bumpy, dirty, gravel road when there's a perfectly good interstate nearby. You're still gonna get to "point B," but you'd be better off taking the interstate, if it's an option.
Bell peppers are all-around good as far as nutrients and easy prep/storage are concerned. I think they're tasty, too. Just slice them, put 'em into a Ziploc container with some water and refrigerate. They'll last several days like that.Originally Posted by Rugger1
Peppers are generally rich in vitamin A, vitamin C, and some fiber...not to mention the red ones contain more carotenoids, which may be good for the prostate.
04-21-2008, 08:39 PM
04-21-2008, 08:44 PM
"yeah, you should just eat cardboard if you eat canned veggies." - this is an ignorant statement[/QUOTE]
it is true that some companies package their vegetables when picked to be frozen/canned (optimal nutrients for frozen/ canned is definitely debatable, as we pour out the salt water they've been sitting in don't we? yeah),but it still doesn't change the fact that you have to cook them, or if you wish to eat them raw, let the frozen thaw or eat some salty ass vegetables (which both are soggy and gross that way). i'm not ignorant with my vegetable consumption by any means. i do read.
There's not a thing wrong with frozen fruits, as these are used by me for 'smoothies.'
Hands down, fresh vegetables are not only easier to eat, but are better for you. Perhaps I was a little overboard with my 'cardboard' statement, but canned vegetables, yeah, I don't think they're up to par with fresh.
p.s.- there's a nice way to tell me i'm wrong. i'm not ignorant; i just have a slanted view.
04-21-2008, 08:54 PM
Canning is more likely to reduce the heat-sensitive and water-soluble nutrients because of the high temperatures needed in the canning process.
Steaming frozen veggies, well, that's a way to save your nutrition value right there. that's the only way i cook my veggies is by steaming them with a dap of water, and then i drink the sip of water.
04-21-2008, 09:10 PM
04-21-2008, 09:17 PM
04-21-2008, 09:38 PM
i appreciate us being mature about this and not turning into keyboard cowboys, as that is not my way, and obviously, not yours either. we can both tip our binary hats to one another! thanks, mayn.
04-21-2008, 09:41 PM
04-21-2008, 09:42 PM
This is why I was impressed enough with this forum to join. I love the fact that people can actually get on a bb and be decent with one another!
Kudos to that... like I said before, y'all are good people. I'm looking forward to being a part of what goes on here.
...and for the record, I wasn't showing up trying to be a "diet guru" by any stretch of the imagination.
04-21-2008, 09:50 PM
to rugger: i apologize for my very first statement, claiming that your diet was not healthy enough. it is a fine diet, in the way that you have your major components measured to fit your body and your goals. that took learning and smarts from that learning. i just love vegetables and fruits for the heat they give the engine.
to hurley: well, we settled up, but i gotta tell ya, way to bring me down off dat high horse. hell, we all hop on it sometime, though. hahaha.
later y'all, i'ma go hit the shower and then hit a movie. think i'll watch.........i don't know, but it'll be somethin' good.
04-21-2008, 09:54 PM
04-21-2008, 09:57 PM
We're all square guys, no harm done. Although, we've thoroughly hijacked this thread
Rugger, I agree that your diet just needs some veggies. FRESH, if possible
04-21-2008, 10:02 PM
04-25-2008, 07:49 PM
I need some good ideas to add quality calories cheaply. I don't think the amount I've planned will be enough. Lets aim for 5k, so another 1200. I'm in college so I can't be spending loads of cash. Thoughts?
04-26-2008, 05:23 PM
here's a good way to get the necessary veggies, cheap too.
go to kroger by 10 bags of frozen veggies any will do. They usally run for lke 10 bucks for 10 bags. Each day microwave the whole content of the bag. Throw that bad boy in some tuberware. Carry it with you. So u can bust it out at what ever meal. Go for the green veggies there free calories, and provide great fiber, which u need on a high protein diet.
04-26-2008, 07:18 PM
What I do is buy the pre-mixed Spring Mix (Popye brand) salad. It has 5-6 different greens in it and baby spinach. I mix that with sliced cucumber and bell peppers or California Slaw (juliean sliced broccolli, red cabbage, carrots). I eat one of these with each of my main meals. If you are concerned with getting full on the veggies you can always eat in the order of protein, carbs, veggies.
An easy way to increase your calories is too increase you milk intake or add fish oil or olive oil to your diet. It will increase your fat intake with EFA's you need. Increased fat intake has been said to increase natural test production too.
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