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    Esterified Creatine or Regular Creatine?


    Iv always used just regular old Creatine and iv been happy with the results but Iv heard lately how the new Esterified Creatine Malate is suppose to be better and you dont have to load up on it, anyone have any opinions or suggestions on this? I would greatly appreciate any info or tips.

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    esterified has advantages, you dont have to take as much, no loading, and it won't bloat you. But if you are looking for good old fashioned gains, monohydrate is still better, in spite of the side effects. and monohydrate is cheaper, too
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    i didn't get the nice pump and muscle fullness from esterfied. i like the effect of regular better, but it tears my stomach up for the first week or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wimpy View Post
    i didn't get the nice pump and muscle fullness from esterfied. i like the effect of regular better, but it tears my stomach up for the first week or so.
    I would agree about that, and if you can deal with the stomach problems monohydrate can cause, I still think it's better. It's cheaper, too. I just see too many guys who either take too much monohydrate or stay on it too long and end up looking puffy
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    I would stay away from monohydrate. It is better for strength but you will def. look more puffy and soft than if you were on esterfied.
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    Creatine Ethyl Ester all the way. The pictures form when i was on mono and later when i was on cee are night and day. sure i was heavier on mono, but the weight was soft and watery, and my muscle looked puffy or even fat. hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    What if it aint broke but you want an upgrade? Most people want a lean and ripped physique, not just to be able to say I bench alot. Monohydrate wont get you lean but you will be strong. Decide want your goals are than decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbunnell View Post
    What if it aint broke but you want an upgrade? Most people want a lean and ripped physique, not just to be able to say I bench alot. Monohydrate wont get you lean but you will be strong. Decide want your goals are than decide.
    Then you run the risk of getting something less effective. No need to rebuttle, it's quite obvious what your rebuttlement will be. Now let's stop this ideological arguement since no one is going to win.

    BTW, I get pretty damn ripped off mono.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    BTW, I get pretty damn ripped off mono.
    Pending caloric shortage it is possible.. Still, many have a skewed idea of what "ripped" really means..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    Pending caloric shortage it is possible.. Still, many have a skewed idea of what "ripped" really means..
    I agree buddy. Not only what it really means, but what it really takes to get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Then you run the risk of getting something less effective. No need to rebuttle, it's quite obvious what your rebuttlement will be. Now let's stop this ideological arguement since no one is going to win.

    BTW, I get pretty damn ripped off mono.
    Well I get way better results off ethyl ester and this site is based off experiences and personal opinions and this is mine. So you and your shadow partner have fun with you mono.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Then you run the risk of getting something less effective. No need to rebuttle, it's quite obvious what your rebuttlement will be. Now let's stop this ideological arguement since no one is going to win.

    BTW, I get pretty damn ripped off mono.
    hey sinner, just wondering if i could see a pic of that "pretty damn ripped physique", because like bigpete said people ideas of "ripped" are skewed, and i wanted to see how skewed yours is.
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    Well I get way better results off ethyl ester and this site is based off experiences and personal opinions and this is mine.
    And there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but there is something wrong with trying to flame me for having a differing opinion.


    hey sinner, just wondering if i could see a pic of that "pretty damn ripped physique", because like bigpete said people ideas of "ripped" are skewed, and i wanted to see how skewed yours is
    I figured I'd get called out soon enough. See the attached.
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    theres no flamage going on. you started it nanananabooboo

    just making sure i wasnt taking advice from unacredited strangers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doodle View Post
    theres no flamage going on. you started it nanananabooboo

    just making sure i wasnt taking advice from unacredited strangers.
    Hey hey hey, it's totally fine to take advice from unaccredited strangers............ provided it's good advice.
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    good talk. i enjoyed it
    end thread.
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    Sinner is right.

    ALWAYS start with monohydrate. If it works - then great. Try the CEE if you want - or stay with the cheaper mono.
    Mono doesn't bloat everyone, either. I didn't bloat on it.

    If you don't see anything from mono - then move to an esterified/higher end version of creatine.


    Ain't no need to be all yellin' up in herrrre about esterified vs. monohydrate. Can't we all just get along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Sinner is right.

    ALWAYS start with monohydrate. If it works - then great. Try the CEE if you want - or stay with the cheaper mono.
    Mono doesn't bloat everyone, either. I didn't bloat on it.

    If you don't see anything from mono - then move to an esterified/higher end version of creatine.


    Ain't no need to be all yellin' up in herrrre about esterified vs. monohydrate. Can't we all just get along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fun2Train View Post
    Iv always used just regular old Creatine and iv been happy with the results but Iv heard lately how the new Esterified Creatine Malate is suppose to be better and you dont have to load up on it, anyone have any opinions or suggestions on this? I would greatly appreciate any info or tips.
    He is passed the entry stage, not just starting out. He asked for advice on esterfied which we both granted him and THATS ALL FOLKS!!!!
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    I take both... I take esterfied pre-workout and mono postworkout in a shake with a carb post-workout...
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    Anyone care to post some science/research behind the proven effectiveness of attaching ethyl esters??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Anyone care to post some science/research behind the proven effectiveness of attaching ethyl esters??
    Sh*t, I would PAY to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Sh*t, I would PAY to see that.
    Lol, we seem to be on the same page again about this whole creatine situation
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    What is this, the 3rd thread we've addressed this "Creatine Monohydrate is the only form PROVEN effective" issue? Great minds must think alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    What is this, the 3rd thread we've addressed this "Creatine Monohydrate is the only form PROVEN effective" issue?
    Yes..it's discouraging, but I do admit we make a pretty good team
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Anyone care to post some science/research behind the proven effectiveness of attaching ethyl esters??
    Considering the science behind making creatine monohydrate itself, I doubt anyone could answer this one..

    I would like to know why anyone would think that the "ester" actually attaches when you have to, nevermind I'll wait to see if anyone can answer your question 'cause it's a good one..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    Considering the science behind making creatine monohydrate itself, I doubt anyone could answer this one..

    I would like to know why anyone would think that the "ester" actually attaches when you have to, nevermind I'll wait to see if anyone can answer your question 'cause it's a good one..
    I have a feeling we'll be waiting a while for this one


    To those who advocate the use of CEE: I have noticed that most of you dose around 5g. Well doesn't that completely contradict all of these claims that you need to use smaller doses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    Considering the science behind making creatine monohydrate itself, I doubt anyone could answer this one..

    I would like to know why anyone would think that the "ester" actually attaches when you have to, nevermind I'll wait to see if anyone can answer your question 'cause it's a good one..
    Doesn't an ester *envelope* a molecule rather than attach to it?

    Just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    Doesn't an ester *envelope* a molecule rather than attach to it?

    Just a guess.
    In this situation the ester is actually attached to the creatine monohydrate, but I am uncertain if this is always the case when dealing with esters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    Doesn't an ester *envelope* a molecule rather than attach to it?

    Just a guess.
    In CEE's case is it should just attach, but if you understand the reaction process it goes thru, it doesn't happen.. I've used CEE and liked it, but reading deeper and talking to formulators (since I plan to also have a product line) it's a flawed technology..

    It works, but what's the long-term?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    In CEE's case is it should just attach, but if you understand the reaction process it goes thru, it doesn't happen.. I've used CEE and liked it, but reading deeper and talking to formulators (since I plan to also have a product line) it's a flawed technology..

    It works, but what's the long-term?
    Amen.
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