Can't gain weight. Very confused.

  1. Can't gain weight. Very confused.


    I started a cycle of tren and test 10 weeks ago and just did my last shot of tren today. Running at 330 tren 500 test a week. I was 182 before cycle and probably ten percent body fat. I was eating very clean and about 2800 cals a day. I've been eating around 4k a day macros being 35% protein 45% carbs 20%fats on average. I haven't done any cardio since I've been bulking and I used to do it 5 days a week. I currently weigh 184 and haven't gained any strength at all and look much more vascular but chubbier like I'm holding alot of water. I don't get why I can't gain any weight I usually gai n*** very quickly but this cycle is ****ing with my tdee alot. Any advice or input?


  2. id be more concerned why you haven't gained any strength in ten weeks.
    also if you're not gaining, you're not eating enough or tracking your calories correctly (prob both)
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  3. It sounds like bunk gear maybe.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    It sounds like bunk gear maybe.
    That's what I was thinking but the sides are definitely real, and the guy I got it from is an absolute monster, sex drives been thru the roof as well

  5. Well first of all I'm wondering if you're counting correctly and second tren really isn't a mass gainer in terms of weight, everything is lean muscle, very little to no fat or water.

    This stack is very potent and even at a deficit you should gain 5 lbs without problem. Test alone should do this so either your gear is bunk or you're doing something very wrong. Why don't you recount your calories, maybe even type it here so we can see what you're eating.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Chados View Post
    Well first of all I'm wondering if you're counting correctly and second tren really isn't a mass gainer in terms of weight, everything is lean muscle, very little to no fat or water.

    This stack is very potent and even at a deficit you should gain 5 lbs without problem. Test alone should do this so either your gear is bunk or you're doing something very wrong. Why don't you recount your calories, maybe even type it here so we can see what you're eating.
    What I eat changes daily. But i put everything I eat into my tracker and I'm over 4k a day at minimum. Which is 1200 over what. I was eating and cutting out cardio. And that's minimum some days I'll eat 5+. My first assumption would be fake get too but if it was I'd be fat as **** right now not somehow still losing weight

  7. Do you actually measure the food you eat?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    What I eat changes daily. But i put everything I eat into my tracker and I'm over 4k a day at minimum. Which is 1200 over what. I was eating and cutting out cardio. And that's minimum some days I'll eat 5+. My first assumption would be fake get too but if it was I'd be fat as **** right now not somehow still losing weight
    You should gain weight regardless... Tren will definitely clean up the intake but I still can't grasp it.. I'd still advice you to count my measuring rather than some calculator just to double check

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    Do you actually measure the food you eat?
    Yeah If I'm eating out ill just use the menu if it has it or I'll Google it. If it's a pre-made meal ill read the box. If I prep it I weigh everything before I eat it. I've read tren just burns calories just sitting still but didn't expect to this extent

  10. An example of my food intake for a day would be 3-4 servings of Wheaties in 2 cups 2% milk, 4-6 whole grain waffles, 3-4 eggs 2 egg whites, two scoops of whey, 2 tablespoons of coconut oil, and I'll usually eat one meal out a day on this bulk which will be anywhere from 800-2500 cals depending on where I go. Hothead vs. Applebee's or something. I also eat 4 or 5 protein bars a day.

  11. I certainly haven't eaten nearly as clean as I was since I'm trying to consume the extra cals and I couldn't eating super lean

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    I certainly haven't eaten nearly as clean as I was since I'm trying to consume the extra cals and I couldn't eating super lean
    Well it does seem very odd but I would again count the calories.. Start tomorrow and type down everything you eat during the day.

    I think I ate around 500gr of carbs 200grams of protein and 100gr fat once I had tren at 400. And that should put me around 3700 calories and I was heavier than you and gained weight. Somewhere something is wrong and first and easiest step would be to start tomorrow and type down everything.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Chados View Post
    Well it does seem very odd but I would again count the calories.. Start tomorrow and type down everything you eat during the day.

    I think I ate around 500gr of carbs 200grams of protein and 100gr fat once I had tren at 400. And that should put me around 3700 calories and I was heavier than you and gained weight. Somewhere something is wrong and first and easiest step would be to start tomorrow and type down everything.
    Gained 7 lbs since this post been eating almost 5k a day. Also stopped tren and still on test so I feel it's mostly or all bloat

  14. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    Gained 7 lbs since this post been eating almost 5k a day. Also stopped tren and still on test so I feel it's mostly or all bloat

    I think 5k is too much and I'm questioning wether you actually had 5k. That should for most people your weight put you really high above maintenance.. Are you very active?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Chados View Post
    I think 5k is too much and I'm questioning wether you actually had 5k. That should for most people your weight put you really high above maintenance.. Are you very active?
    I agree it's way too much but I wasnt gaining anything on 4k so I had to bump it up. I should only need 3k to 3250 to gain. I'm lightly active. Excluding when I work, which is in a warehouse walking all day. I'm assuming it's just teh gear that's not letting me gain weight. No other reason.. Usually I gain fat extremely easy. And yes it's for sure 5k. I've been tracking it on my calculator. It's quite easy to eat that when Im getting 1500 from protrin bars and over 2k when I go out to eat for dinner. Throw in lucnh and breakfast and possibly other snacks I'm at 5k fairly easy, Im not even hungry usually just addicted to eating lol

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    I agree it's way too much but I wasnt gaining anything on 4k so I had to bump it up. I should only need 3k to 3250 to gain. I'm lightly active. Excluding when I work, which is in a warehouse walking all day. I'm assuming it's just teh gear that's not letting me gain weight. No other reason.. Usually I gain fat extremely easy. And yes it's for sure 5k. I've been tracking it on my calculator. It's quite easy to eat that when Im getting 1500 from protrin bars and over 2k when I go out to eat for dinner. Throw in lucnh and breakfast and possibly other snacks I'm at 5k fairly easy, Im not even hungry usually just addicted to eating lol
    Well tren will eat your food up and store it as muscle so its possible you added more than you think but that doesn't change the fact that you're not completely happy with the results. Just eat more clean and less bars. I think it's possible you're eating a huge amount of carbs and it could be smart to lower that a little.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Chados View Post
    Well tren will eat your food up and store it as muscle so its possible you added more than you think but that doesn't change the fact that you're not completely happy with the results. Just eat more clean and less bars. I think it's possible you're eating a huge amount of carbs and it could be smart to lower that a little.
    I wasn't eating much and then I read I should be eating a TON of carbs on tren since it can't store it as fat so I've been eating 400-500grams

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    I wasn't eating much and then I read I should be eating a TON of carbs on tren since it can't store it as fat so I've been eating 400-500grams
    500 carbs is 2000 calories.. So where do the other 3000 come from? It's true but at some point it's just too much.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Chados View Post
    500 carbs is 2000 calories.. So where do the other 3000 come from? It's true but at some point it's just too much.
    300 of protein and the 200 fat

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    300 of protein and the 200 fat
    Yeah I just don't see that hold up at your weight.. That's a lot of fat and carbs and I don't believe you need that much protein either. I definitely can see how you add fat but I can't understand how you didn't gain more weight

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Chados View Post
    Yeah I just don't see that hold up at your weight.. That's a lot of fat and carbs and I don't believe you need that much protein either. I definitely can see how you add fat but I can't understand how you didn't gain more weight
    Yeah I'm extremely confused on how this happens. But I pct in 13 days, run clomid, Novla, and Aromasin for 4 weeks then take two Monts off and Start another cycle. Just not sure what i should make my goal In between. Bulk, cut, or just try and maintain what I have.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DK0313 View Post
    Yeah I'm extremely confused on how this happens. But I pct in 13 days, run clomid, Novla, and Aromasin for 4 weeks then take two Monts off and Start another cycle. Just not sure what i should make my goal In between. Bulk, cut, or just try and maintain what I have.
    Just change the diet and eat clean. You'll shred up and build if you do it right
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