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How many on this forum carry the attitude of "If its not considered clean I will not eat that."
How many of you are "If It fits my macros I will eat it!"
How many of you are "If It fits my macros I will eat it!"
I'd rather eat clean 95 % of the time than eat pizza. Its not like you can really enjoy pizza anyway if you want to fit it in your macros. If I'm going to eat pizza, I'm reserving it for a cheat day and eating as much as I want to. A few slices of pizza is gonna use up tons of your macros that should be spread out for the rest of your days meals. So I would just rather eat foods like chicken, oatmeal and rice 6 days week. Pizza is reserved for that one day where I allow myself to eat pretty much whatever I want to. Some weeks i don't even have a cheat day, it all depends on my mood.Somewhere between the two
Yeah thats good. In the long run you will be much happier and feel better. I always feel like total **** after eating junk food my body just doesn't respond well to it. Over the years I've been finding different alternatives to junk food that I enjoy the taste of. For example cookies and pizza. They got that protein pizza out now and the one that is called Real Good Pizza. But I still even prefer making my own pizzas at home with the ingredients that are hand picked by me at the store. Pasta, I will load up on that right now but its always gonna be whole wheat which doesn't bloat me like regular pasta. I also found a really great pasta sauce that only has 20 mg of sodium per serving. Oatmeal I can eat as much as I want of that and be fine along with any low GI carb source. Most people will not understand our lifestyle but if they ever had goals of competing they would understand. Plus its just a good lifestyle to have and good eating habits.I am actually far closer to eating clean on a bulk, set protein at ~1.2g / lb, fats at ~0.5g / lb then the rest from carb sources (oatmeal, oatcakes and wholemeal thins) and when I go out for meal then I will treat myself to stark and chips (fries to everyone else outside the UK)
Allowing room for these depends on my waist . As a competitor Ive dierted down so many times, with two hours cardio a day and going through difficult times because at the start of the prep if I were leaner, I wouldn't have to suffer very, very much, still suffering mind you.I think it is dumb to not allow yourself to have any "dirty" foods or free foods. If you can go without them, great, but I believe allowing these foods in your diet can alleviate binging or excessive cheat meals. I follow the 10%-20% rule where I let 10% or so of my calories to come from dirty/free foods. For example, I will have a serving or two of cereal, pastry, ice cream, etc daily. I have noticed by having a serving of cereal a day, 120 cals or so, makes me not crave larger cheat meals.
Here are some good articles
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/tip-adhere-to-the-90-rule
https://biotest.t-nation.com/articles/berardi-s-top-10-tips (go to 8)
Keep in mind that the majority of the people on here will not compete. For the average person who wants to be lean and have a good amount of lean mass, there is nothing wrong with giving 10% of cals to free foods. The only time I would not personally do it is if I was in a severe deficit and did not have too much room to add foods not dense in nutrients and filling.Allowing room for these depends on my waist . As a competitor Ive dierted down so many times, with two hours cardio a day and going through difficult times because at the start of the prep if I were leaner, I wouldn't have to suffer very, very much, still suffering mind you.
I would lose my mind if i never had *treats*How many on this forum carry the attitude of "If its not considered clean I will not eat that."
How many of you are "If It fits my macros I will eat it!"
Great post. Come contest time I tend to have to not cheat, and sticking to certain foods , at that time-frame, seem to work best for me. That said Ive heard once your in shape you can go off diet a bit. Like Dorian yates he eat steak, fries, and cake, two weeks out from a Mr. O.I would lose my mind if i never had *treats*
My diet though consists of around 70-80% *clean* foods. Playing around with new foods over the years you get to know whats nice or not nice.
I would rather eat sweet potato any day over say chocolate... In terms of getting carbs that is. So finding what works for you is key
I do still enjoy *junk* foods.. If i go out for a meal which is about once a month i always have the 3 courses and i dont strain about... oh thats no very healthy. Any food in moderation is fine. We only have 1 life so live it. You can keep in good shape all year round with being flexible. Its when people abuse junk constant that further down the line health issues may arise.
Get veggies in.. A good protein source and some healthy fats and then have some more enjoyable food and your health will keep ticking just fine.
My uncle recently... Im kinda swaying topic here but.. Hes such a healthy eater (Far farrrrr better than me) and his meals are home cooked everyday. Hes turned 60 and his health (Heart ' Joints etc) have honestly been terrible. (Heart surgery recent and 2 hips replaced) So diet is a good advocate for health but on the flip side health can get bad for anyone. Some peope have a sh*t diet and remain very healthy.. Look up Mattdoesfitness on YouTube his diet is borderline awful but hes in awesome shape and done bloodwork after a good few year of eating anything because he feared it could be bad.. Got a perfect blood screening in terms of cholesterol and all perfect levels. But.. Going with IIFYM. If it works for you then... Perfect. Sorry for the sway but just good to validate some points.
This is a great post. For the majority of us, we are not going to compete. So why not keep 10-20% of our daily calories for free foods. Even at 2,000 calories, that is only 200-400 calories which is not a lot. A serving of cereal is only 120 cals give or take.I would lose my mind if i never had *treats*
My diet though consists of around 70-80% *clean* foods. Playing around with new foods over the years you get to know whats nice or not nice.
I would rather eat sweet potato any day over say chocolate... In terms of getting carbs that is. So finding what works for you is key
I do still enjoy *junk* foods.. If i go out for a meal which is about once a month i always have the 3 courses and i dont strain about... oh thats no very healthy. Any food in moderation is fine. We only have 1 life so live it. You can keep in good shape all year round with being flexible. Its when people abuse junk constant that further down the line health issues may arise.
Get veggies in.. A good protein source and some healthy fats and then have some more enjoyable food and your health will keep ticking just fine.
My uncle recently... Im kinda swaying topic here but.. Hes such a healthy eater (Far farrrrr better than me) and his meals are home cooked everyday. Hes turned 60 and his health (Heart ' Joints etc) have honestly been terrible. (Heart surgery recent and 2 hips replaced) So diet is a good advocate for health but on the flip side health can get bad for anyone. Some peope have a sh*t diet and remain very healthy.. Look up Mattdoesfitness on YouTube his diet is borderline awful but hes in awesome shape and done bloodwork after a good few year of eating anything because he feared it could be bad.. Got a perfect blood screening in terms of cholesterol and all perfect levels. But.. Going with IIFYM. If it works for you then... Perfect. Sorry for the sway but just good to validate some points.
https://biotest.t-nation.com/articles/berardi-s-top-10-tipsThis 10% wiggle room will allow you the freedom to eat a few extra things not on your menu without the guilt and subsequent psychological crash that usually accompanies such perceived transgressions.
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/tip-eating-crap-for-2-weeks-wont-affect-youTwo week's of eating food that would cause the average fitness person to suffer self-loathing, paranoia, deep depression, and delusions that their previously finely-tuned body was irrevocably damaged had negligible effects on the 15 study participants.
This is a great post. For the majority of us, we are not going to compete. So why not keep 10-20% of our daily calories for free foods. Even at 2,000 calories, that is only 200-400 calories which is not a lot. A serving of cereal is only 120 cals give or take.
Even if one is a competitive bodybuilder, until that person is deep in prep, it is easy to fit those foods into their diet. Once they are deep into though, it can be difficult to fit free foods into their diet and it should be absolutely dialed in.
Read number 8 in this article
https://biotest.t-nation.com/articles/berardi-s-top-10-tips
I also came across this article last week, it is a very good read.
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/tip-eating-crap-for-2-weeks-wont-affect-you
And once you have gotten down to bodyfat % in the single digits, you want to stay lean as much as possible. Bulking is a mind **** for sure but its something that has to be done even though I hate it personally with the exception of eating lots of food. If I could stay super lean all year round and continue to build muscle I would but thats unrealistic since I'm not on gear.Its important to keep my stomach trim, tight, you can definitely go out and enjoy yourself . If its contest prep time you can go out, just bring your food with you, or if out to eat, just make sure its on your diet. Contest prep time, prepping and bring food with you is easiest bc you know macros already there , etc
Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner.I think that you can still eat whatever you want as long as it is in moderation.
Do you agree?Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner.
Absolutely. See my posts above. I think there is nothing wrong with one giving themselves 10-20% of their calories to free food. I personally think it helps keep sanity. Now, depending on one's calories, this can be hard. Also, if one is in contest prep, especially deep in it, this could be hard. But for the majority of the forum members here, who will not compete, having a bowl of cereal daily will not hurt. That is roughly 110 calories give or take.Do you agree?
10% is really not a lot, as you already pointed out. For people that don't make money by doing this I think it's pointless to be so stuck up regarding food. You wanna eat healthy? Grow your own chickens and broccoli Offcourse if having a strickt eye on your diet is your "thing" that fills up that hole in your life (soul) and makes your days have a meaning than I don't see anything wrong with it.Absolutely. See my posts above. I think there is nothing wrong with one giving themselves 10-20% of their calories to free food. I personally think it helps keep sanity.