[louis19]

how do you guys work out your calorie intake/macros when on a cycle as opposed to doing it natural?

[hvactech]

Whats your goal?

[fueledpassion]

I tend to increase proteins and carbs and reduce fats. This is pretty common in bodybuilding I might add.

Ur muscle protein synthesis (MPS) increases with steroids so u can eat more protein more often and still be able to utilize it effectively. High amounts of GH also make MPS rise sharply.

[xR1pp3Rx]

when on cycle your likely to be able to use 20 x Body weight with out gaining much fat. starting there and staying there for a couple weeks will tell you if your close or not.
frankly when your bulking, you should be taking two big sh!ts a day. other wise your not eating enough.

[Akol]

when on cycle your likely to be able to use 20 x Body weight with out gaining much fat. starting there and staying there for a couple weeks will tell you if your close or not.
frankly when your bulking, you should be taking two big sh!ts a day. other wise your not eating enough.

Man...if you're able to use 20x body weight without gaining much fat then you, my friend, are a BEAST! Hahaha.

I start out my cycle at about 500-600 cal over maintenance, using ~1.5-1.6g/lb protein, ~90-110g fat and the rest carbs. Over the first few weeks I increase calories by about 100cal/week (25g protein/week) until I reach 2g/lb then continue increasing by 100cal/week mainly with carbs but also keeping protein about 2g/lb. After My last pin, I maintain my calorie intake throughout PCT. Once PCT is over I go back down to maintenance for a few weeks and then decide if I want to cut or bulk

I hope that makes sense. Its a lot less complicated than it sounds. It has worked extremely well for me.

[dbrock504]

I'm going to be taking hdrol, so I plan on being like 400 over my maintenance. I want a lean bulk, but not a really lean bulk like epi or anything like that. I was loosing weight effectively -500 of my maintenance. I have increased my cal intake 100cal/day until I've reached 3000. Pretty pumped to get this sucker started in a week. Each day is passing so slow...

[hewhoisripped]

Man...if you're able to use 20x body weight without gaining much fat then you, my friend, are a BEAST! Hahaha.

I start out my cycle at about 500-600 cal over maintenance, using ~1.5-1.6g/lb protein, ~90-110g fat and the rest carbs. Over the first few weeks I increase calories by about 100cal/week (25g protein/week) until I reach 2g/lb then continue increasing by 100cal/week mainly with carbs but also keeping protein about 2g/lb. After My last pin, I maintain my calorie intake throughout PCT. Once PCT is over I go back down to maintenance for a few weeks and then decide if I want to cut or bulk

I hope that makes sense. Its a lot less complicated than it sounds. It has worked extremely well for me.

very solid advice man

[veaderko]

My macros I keep the same. The only thing that changes is the total calories. During a bulk and on cycle, a lot of the time I will simply add a Mass Gainz shake. 500 easy calories. I also have an issue consuming a lot of extra food with my schedule so it works great for me.

[hvactech]

My macros I keep the same. The only thing that changes is the total calories. During a bulk and on cycle, a lot of the time I will simply add a Mass Gainz shake. 500 easy calories. I also have an issue consuming a lot of extra food with my schedule so it works great for me.

If your calories increase how does your macro breakdown stay the same?

[dbrock504]

If your calories increase how does your macro breakdown stay the same?

I was literally thinking this exact thing...

[Wolfy3d2000]

I'm sure he means he keeps his macro split the same. Like 40/40/20, then raises calories by say 500 while keeping the 40/40/20 split.

[laneanders]

Most people I know will increase protein and carbs while reducing fats, as you have a direct increase in hormones now instead of needing the fats to produce the hormones. You want an overall increase in calories either way.

[louis19]

would you guys drop carbs/cals on rest days or keep them the same?

[dbrock504]

would you guys drop carbs/cals on rest days or keep them the same?

I keep them the same. I only have 1-2 rest days, so it's not that big of an issue.

[louis19]

im the same so all good!

[dbrock504]

im the same so all good!

Try it out though brotha. You might like it. I know some fellas that drop it to their TDEE on off days and prefer that.

[louis19]

im pretty lean at 12% bf so il stick to the same for now

[hvactech]

what compound are we talking?

[louis19]

800mg test 400, 400mg tren e and 400mg mast e a week