The protein myth
- 02-09-2013, 08:34 PM
The protein myth
I would like to know if anyone else is becoming aware of the protein myth that most bodybuilders have fallen for: "You must eat lots of protein, otherwise you won't make any gains." As a result of this rotten lie, hundreds of thousands of bodybuilders are scoffing down ridiculous amounts of protein every day, often giving them smelly wind and bloating and leaving them with an empty wallet. What's worse is that most of the protein bodybuilders eat is animal protein, which is not natural for human consumption. Let me elaborate:
If you eat a dead animal, you are eating dead protein. When you cook meat or any other food, you kill the living enzymes, which will prevent proper digestion. It's not about how much protein you eat, it's how much you are able to absorb. Most of the protein that bodybuilders eat is not absorbed into the muscle because animal protein is hard to digest. Most of it just passes through them and puts a strain on their liver and kidneys. All you need is a small amount of good quality protein to grow. A baby can gain 12 pounds in 6 months by drinking breast milk, because breast milk, unlike cows milk, it a natrural protein. Dead animal protein is second hand.
The biggest scandal is whey protein. Whey is completely unnatural. Many bodybuilders complain of wind, bloating, and stomach upset after drinking whey protein. That's because whey protein is another dead animal protein. It has no living enzymes and it doesn't digest properly. It also sticks to the inside of your intestines. Rub some whey powder with a few drops of water between your fingers. It's horribly sticky, just like gue. No wonder it can cause wind and stomach upset. What you want is a plant protein powder like hemp protein or sun warrior. Ever since I've been on hemp protein, I've had no bloating or stomach upset. Hemp protein is completely natural and is very easy to digest. Whey protein is toxic to the digestive system, and the quality of the protein is very poor.
Small amounts of natural protein is all you need: protein found in seeds, nuts, fruits, vegetables, and herbs. Once you cut out animal protein and replace is with natures protein, you will recover faster, have more strength and energy, and be much healthier. Clogging yourself up with 200-300 grams of animal protein is the stupidist thing I've ever heard. You want hemp protein powder, seeds, nuts, bananas, spinach, kale, avocado, seaweed, spouts, and all other green herbs and vegetables. Animal protein is junk protein.
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02-09-2013, 11:49 PM
I'm not one to jump on threads but this is complete opinionated arrogance..the human race has been living on animal protein since mankind started...that's why animals like cow,chicken,pig etc, was created, so we can survive
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Edit: double post
02-10-2013, 02:53 AM
There is some truth to this thread.... We as humans eat meat but aren't meant to eat meat often... As cave people we had to survive off of plants for our nutritional needs. It isn't like we caught an animal everyday and also we used a lot more energy in gathering and or catching our food. Broccoli has more protein per calorie than steak. The United States has the highest cancer rate in the world but we are also the largest consumer of animal based proteins which have been proven to activate the dormant cancer cells that we all possess. There are documentaries on this same subject on Netflix. Just like America has the highest percentage of degenerate bone diseases, which has been linked to the consumption of milk, which we are the largest consumer of. When ingested it actually increases acidity in your stomach and our body draws calcium from our bones to neutralize this increase. I consume all of the above, but there is fact in what dude is saying he just didnt include many details.
02-10-2013, 03:05 AM
02-10-2013, 03:16 AM
Re: The protein myth
Animal protein is not now nor has it ever been "unnatural". Unless you are talking specifically about hormones.
You seem to be a strong advocate of being a vegan, that's fantastic but don't come in here telling people how stupidist, stupidir them are when they disagree. You approached the possibility for an intellectual conversation in an extremely inappropriate fashion.
Start over with actual evidence. Not using some asinine statement of the development of infants as support for your argument. If you honestly believe that to be evidence, I suggest you research the stages of development of infants. You were so quick to discredit those that furnished no factual evidence while you came in doing the exact same thing.
02-10-2013, 03:21 AM
I hope this thread blows up. I could use a few good laughs throughout the day. Oh man... Theres already room for so much criticism and half-brained theories...
02-10-2013, 03:24 AM
Re: The protein myth
Netflix documentaries and the studies behind them, if looked into deep enough, will usually lead you to the biased individuals that funded them.
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02-10-2013, 04:43 AM
I def agree bodybuilders dont need a ton of protein. I use to eat 300 plus.. i now eat 150g and gain just as good
02-10-2013, 05:05 AM
This is ridiculous.... cavemen ate meat.... and mostly organs too. Hence why they could live healthily. From all the vits and mins in organs... not plants.... *sigh*
I dont know why im even commenting.... this is retarded.... but could get entertaining....
02-10-2013, 05:19 AM
And second of all if you believe all this bull, you obviously havent thought about evolution.
But then why would the average person be living longer than 10 yrs ago? Please tell me its because of all the nuts and herbs i have been eating.
Your logic is illogical and only have come on here to start trouble... leave this forum or start acting right...
02-10-2013, 05:23 AM
Gah i cant stop posting....
And third cells die slowely. Not immediate. Dont animals twitch still after death?
How old are you? Are you in a cult?
02-10-2013, 06:00 AM
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02-10-2013, 08:03 AM
That being said I still do not eat any animals with four legs lol. for all kinds of reasons not the least of which is the way in which many of these animals are treated. Other than eggs, and fish, I only eat free range turkey and chicken raised without rbgh.
2. Who are you to tell the dude to leave the forum. Who are you to decide what constitues, "acting right", not trying to put "you" down but you do come across rather adolescent...
02-10-2013, 08:12 AM
02-10-2013, 08:36 AM
For the record, I'm not affiliated with this Steven guy... Nor am I here to bash lifters... I'm here for information and to gain and share my knowledge on lifting, supplementation, AAS, nutrition, etc.
And for the record, I eat meats, and dairy... I'm not here to bash doing so...
02-10-2013, 08:44 AM
02-10-2013, 09:04 AM
Regarding the first paragraph, the idea isn't that small intake of protein will lead to no gains, but finding an amount that will lead to best gains and there are already active discussions about this on both sides.
If you eat a dead animal, you are getting a delicious source of bioavailable protein, proven to build muscle. A few enzymes may be lost in the cooking process but it's better than food poisoning and parasites. Don't overcook your food and you'll still preserve some of th enzymes anyhow. Bloody steak for the win. Either way though, you are getting a delicious source of bioavailable protein, proven to build muscle.
Whey protein has an extremely high biological value, and tops the list of proteins for this particular topic. It is not a whole food and nobody argues it to be. It's a "supplement" taken along side whole foods to achieve an amount of protein that creates the optimal conditions for muscle recovery.
Fruits, vegetables, nuts et cetera make excellent additions to a bloody steak dinner and to a whey shake for a convenient snack but if you want to talk about bad gas, eat a handful of chia seeds and report back.
Your entire post is off base and incorrect where building muscle is concerned. And for the record, once you rip a fruit, veggie or nut from the vine, it is dead and begins decaying immediatly. By the time you pick fruit up from the grocery store, cart it home and eat it a few days later, it has been dead for weeks. The decomposition may not be horrendous or even noticeable to the senses but many of its enzymes, phytochemicals et cetera have started to degrade.
02-10-2013, 09:11 AM
The protein myth
Cite sources or GTFO.
Mmmmm...12or ribeye and 4 eggs for breakfast.
Don't worry, man, someday I'ma be nobody too.
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edit: try'd punching cow in the face and was counter blocked by 4 utters across my jaw, he stands over me mumbling "stay vegetarian bish"
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