Liquid Calories vs. Solid Calories
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01-31-2013 11:47 AM
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Liquid Calories vs. Solid Calories
This is probably a dumb question - and I think I know the answer to it, but I was wondering if someone could explain it a little bit better.
When it comes to bulking, Is there a difference between a calorie from a liquid.. compared to a calorie from a solid?
It only makes sense to me that a solid calorie would be better for bulking, but I thought calories are broken down into a simple form so that all calories are equal. The reason I ask, I have a very hectic job. I work from 9am to 10pm everyday, and I'm very lucky to get a break during that time. So I often find myself replacing meals with shakes/drinks (I know it's not ideal, but it's what I have to work with).
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01-31-2013 12:14 PM
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It is best to have solid meals and use mrp only when you can't. With the exception perhaps of post w/o
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01-31-2013 12:18 PM
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The calories between liquid and solid will be the same. However, the actual nutritional content between them will be different.
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01-31-2013 12:32 PM
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The actual nutritional content between all meals will be different unless it is the same meal. Don't be misled into relying primarily on shakes to reach your goals, you need real food.
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01-31-2013 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
De Courcy
The actual nutritional content between all meals will be different unless it is the same meal. Don't be misled into basing your program on shakes, you need real food.
Where did I imply that shakes are sufficient for nutrition or that powders are ideal?
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01-31-2013 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
Rodja
The calories between liquid and solid will be the same. However, the actual nutritional content between them will be different.
Just did not want the op to be confused by this
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01-31-2013 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
De Courcy
Just did not want the op to be confused by this
There's nothing confusing about my post. The body cannot differentiate between liquid and solid calories. However, they are not the same nutritionally. They're two different topics.
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01-31-2013 12:51 PM
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Thanks guys!
Any tips on foods or meal program that could work for someone with a crazy work schedule? Does anybody know of any magic food I could eat throughout the day that will help? *sarcasm*
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01-31-2013 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Rodja
The body cannot differentiate between liquid and solid calories. However, they are not the same nutritionally.
No two meals are the same nutritionally unless they are identical meals.
Of course physiologically the body can't tell the difference, I did not however want the op to be misled into thinking you can make up the difference simply by adding more shakes and mrps, cutting out whole foods because, "the body cannot differentiate". Whole foods are one of the cornerstones in bulking.
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01-31-2013 09:21 PM
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Just don't eat and call it a fasting window until your schedule settles down.
Kidding. Powders are decent if you're super busy as long as you make your relaxed meals whole foods.
Casein protein is slow digesting and can be beneficial if it is hard to eat as well. A couple glasses of milk and some mixed nuts for fat and fiber content to furthur slow digestion would help.
If you don't have a refrigerator, casein powder is ok instead of milk. Just make sure you add extra nuts for the lacking fat in powder and an apple or banana or something to make up the sugars.
Originally Posted by
FatalFunnel
Thanks guys!
Any tips on foods or meal program that could work for someone with a crazy work schedule? Does anybody know of any magic food I could eat throughout the day that will help? *sarcasm*
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01-31-2013 09:39 PM
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The body doesn't "see" food; it sees nutrients.
All that matters is adequate caloric intake (solid/liquid doesn't matter), and adequate nutrients.
There's no way I could eat my 5000 calories purely from solid food. 2,000 of those come from milk, shakes, and olive oil.
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02-01-2013 12:09 PM
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made my biggest gains at a time when i was consuming a 75% liquid diet
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02-01-2013 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
proteinftw
made my biggest gains at a time when i was consuming a 75% liquid diet
Protein supplements have been shown to have superior biological values than whole foods: http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/proteinrating.html
Essentially you'd have to eat more food to absorb the same amount of protein and increased caloric intake certainly has it's place but if you are staying under a calorie ceiling, 2000 calories for example, and are using a macro ratio that limits how much meat you can eat, whey protein can give you a boost where amino acid absorption and utilization are concerned.
You will miss out on other benefits of whole foods over supplements though so powders definitely shouldn't be your primary protein source, but they have their place.
Also, not being mean, but at 6' and 175 pounds, I'm guessing the growth that got you there came from many factors outside of your protein source.
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02-01-2013 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
TexasGuy
You will miss out on other benefits of whole foods over supplements though so powders definitely shouldn't be your primary protein source, but they have their place.
Also, not being mean, but at 6' and 175 pounds, I'm guessing the growth that got you there came from many factors outside of your protein source.
yeah people probably thought i was crazy being so small taking whey protein shakes at work,
but i started @ 135 and made it to 195 in a little over a year but lost a lot of gains mostly due to a bad cut,
but on topic i was abusing dymatize super mass gainer, and made huge strength gains
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02-05-2013 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
proteinftw
yeah people probably thought i was crazy being so small taking whey protein shakes at work,
but i started @ 135 and made it to 195 in a little over a year but lost a lot of gains mostly due to a bad cut,
but on topic i was abusing dymatize super mass gainer, and made huge strength gains
protein is protein. You would've made the same strength gains with roast beef sandwhiches and egg salad but a shake can be convenient between meals.
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02-22-2013 06:33 PM
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GOMAD diet...gallon of milk a day, extra 2000 calories, yo can carry it around with you. work s every time
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