- 12-09-2012, 06:21 PM
- 12-09-2012, 06:31 PM
Never have a trouble with eating...but if appetite stimulation is needed...AnaBeta FTW.>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
- 12-09-2012, 06:35 PM
12-09-2012, 06:38 PM
Ew nope haha , Food > anything. But some XF Ultra Peptide 2.0 , peanut butter, banana and honey can mix in good for a quick extra snack!
>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
12-09-2012, 06:42 PM
12-09-2012, 06:59 PM
That's about what I usually do ill make a peanut butter sandwich and drink a protein shake. I need to quit doubting myself lol I rather be safe than sorry though
12-09-2012, 10:50 PM
Whole foods are always preferable but when I bulk I use home made bulk shakes. A scoop of whey, a banana, a tablespoon natty PB, half a cup of oats and a tablespoon of honey. Around 600 cals.
12-10-2012, 11:41 AM
What kind of routine are you on by chance? I keep rest periods between exercises to about 90 seconds and I do total body routines three times a week, incorporating Olympic lifts and heavy big movements, the oly lifts are for 3 working sets and no more than 3 or 4 reps and then everything else is a 5,3,1 program. Gained 12 pounds and eating clean while having no trouble to shovel down over 4000 cals a day, granted my shake is about 550 calories.
12-10-2012, 09:39 PM
If your not hungry, your not burning enough calories throughout your day. If I wake up at 10pm and sat around my house doing nothing all day I may eat 3 times. If I wake up(like normal) at 530, goto work for 10 hours, get off and goto the gym, and come home. I eat 6-7 meals a day EASILY. Breakfast is a MUST* it starts your metabolism for the day, if you can't eat in the morning try not eating so much about 2 hours before bed. You will wake up hungry guaranteed.
P.S. Stop being a little girl and shove the food down your mouth. I am not referring to 5 slices of cheesy pizza either.
12-10-2012, 11:06 PM
12-10-2012, 11:48 PM
Hunger issues can be attributed to alot of things, to say that he isn't active enough is unsubstantiated. In fact I eat more on off days than I would on training and work days simply because I have more time and on these days I do little to no exercise (study mostly).
IF I don't feel hungry, i'll make a shake. A high calorie dense shake. Ultra skim milk (high protein), whole milk (sat fats), creamed rice (carbs + protein + mixture of fats), EVOO, PB, Oats, 2 bananas and some sort of flavouring like cinnamin
12-11-2012, 11:44 PM
It's not that I don't feel hungry it's just sometimes I'm hungry but don't feel like eating I eat usually about 4 times within 8 hours of work and once before the gym and another after just sometimes I don't want to eat but I'm hungry maybe I get tired of eating idk
12-12-2012, 04:41 PM
Gosh I can't stand the whole "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" or the "eat every 2 hours to speed up your metabolism" BS that the media feeds to everyone and that the majority ends up buying...
I have to argue with people from work that are significantly overweight about me not eating breakfast and have to keep calm and not be rude when they say "you have to eat breakfast! it's the most important meal of the day! or else you'll end up gaining weight!". Yeah... Let's see, I'm 225, 6'4'', 10% BF. You're 225, 5'8'', 30% of body fat. Let me go right ahead and listen to you.
Aaaanyways, back to the topic at hand.
If you're not hungry and looking for calories, why not add some good fats to your diet to add up some calories? Load up your foods with Olive oil, eat Peanut Butter, eat some Almonds, Cashews or Pecans throughout the day, snack on some of that stuff and you'll be golden.
All else fails, Anabeta 4x a day and good luck satiating the hunger.
Androhard + Andromass Log
12-12-2012, 05:31 PM
All else fails, Anabeta 4x a day and good luck satiating the hunger.[/QUOTE]
How do you dose Anabeta when you take it 4x/day? Do you take 1 cap with meals 4x/day?
12-12-2012, 05:33 PM
12-12-2012, 05:39 PM
12-12-2012, 06:17 PM
12-13-2012, 11:32 AM
I take one at 7AM, one at noon, 1 pre workout and one pre last meal.
Androhard + Andromass Log
12-13-2012, 11:45 AM
12-13-2012, 11:50 AM
12-13-2012, 04:43 PM
Not saying it won't help some people; hell, most people can't stand not eating their entire plate of food regardless of what's in it, so for those who don't really control what they eat may be beneficial, but it is far from a must have or "most important meal of the day" as it is widely spread by the mainstream media.
Bottom line is that amount of calories in a day - amounts of calories consumed in a day = weight changes, whether you did this in 1, 2, 3 or 45 meals.
Androhard + Andromass Log
12-13-2012, 07:12 PM
12-13-2012, 10:45 PM
12-14-2012, 08:54 AM
12-14-2012, 09:06 AM
Can you show where meals don't speed up metabolism?
No, hunger is not always directly correlated to net caloric expenditure, but if the OP has a specific goal and knows the nutritional requirements to reach it, it doesn't matter. He needs to eat his goals and shakes can help if it's tough to down food.
12-14-2012, 10:38 AM
Can you show me the studies that show meals do speed up metabolism?
Does food restriction retard aging by reducing the metabolic rate?
Metabolic rate was determined by measuring O2 consumption in two groups of 6-mo-old male rats fed ad libitum (group 1) or maintained on a life-prolonging food-restriction regimen for 4.5 mo (group 2). These measurements were made continuously for 23.75 h under conditions nearly identical to those of the daily life of the rats. The metabolic rate per kilogram lean body mass was the same for both groups, a finding contrary to the hypothesis that food restriction retards the aging process and prolongs life by slowing the metabolic rate per unit of metabolic mass. This and our previous work strongly suggest that the classic views of the action of food restriction on aging must be re-evaluated because retardation of the aging process can occur without the restriction of calories or any other nutrient per unit of lean body mass. The long held belief that reducing food intake lowers the metabolic rate per unit of metabolic mass may be true in short-term dietary programs but appears not to be true when a significant portion of the life span is involved.Effects of feeding on metabolic rate, and the Specific Dynamic Action in plaice, Pleuronectes platessa L.
The rate of oxygen consumption of plaice increases after feeding and declines to a resting level after 24–72 h. The maximum increase corresponds to a level which is approximately twice the resting rate of oxygen consumption. This increase corresponds to the Specific Dynamic Action (SDA) and increases in magnitude with increase in food intake. The magnitude is greatest with high protein content diets. The duration of the SDA effect is reduced with increase in temperature and increases with the percentage of protein in the diet.
12-14-2012, 10:43 AM
12-14-2012, 10:44 AM
12-14-2012, 11:40 AM
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
I'm not arguing intermittent fasting doesn't work, only that it sure as **** isn't The One True Method and discounting methodologies that have shown to be successful time and again, as in the post I replied to, is just dumb.
Regarding metabolism, the thermal effect of food isn't debateable. If you are going to consume 3500 calories per day, and fat loss is your goal, it makes sense to take advantage of it and space your meals out to keep your metabolism constantly working to break down those 3500 calories as they come. Intermittant fasting potentially allows for a bulk by eating less frequently and using less total calories to break food down but then you have to look at protein synthesis, nitrogen retention and the benefit of constantly circulating amino acids on hypertrophy. There may not be significant evidence showing an importance of breakfast vs. total calorie intake without breakfast but that is misleading as calories are only one part of the physique puzzle. There are ample studies showing the positive effect of protein synthesis on muscle building and ample studies showing a steady stream of amino acids on protein synthesis, plus a **** ton of anecdotal evidence. "Breaking the fast", even isolating a need for amino acids, is simply logical to realize max potential, even if you can get by with less.
I can make progress skipping workouts here and there too. A slight decrease in volume or frequency will not totally stunt growth, but it will slow it. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it's ideal. There is no specific formula for building muscle, the body is very forgiving.
Intermittent fasting is just the exciting new kid on the block and the relatively limited research surrounding it is currently front and center, propagated by people profitting from it in most cases. It will be tomorrows debunked myth (even though it works, amiright?) If it's working for you, have at it. So will 15 other diets. Personally I will feed my body and often when I want it to grow.
Anyways, my reply was to an open ended call to disregard breakfast. I don't know that the OP is even utilizing intermittent fasting, do you? What ever plan he is using may very well rely on breakfast as a very important aspect, if not the cornerstone. What I read is that he's having trouble putting down meals that he needs. How does skipping breakfast help him? OP, if you need calories and macros but are having a hard time putting them down, a shake is a great way to do so. And yes, Muscle Milk is a good choice.
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