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    DC Training for Bulk / Natural Gains.


    I plan on switching to DC soon for my bulk so was wondering who here has used the DC training program to bulk? Looking to hear what kind of gains people have had verse a higher volume training each muscle 1x a week. Preferably natural BB'rs, but looking to hear from anyone on your thoughts of it.
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    Anyone have experiences to share?
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    I dont know youre experience in lifting, and im not suggesting that i have more experience than you do in lifting. but if youre looking to bulk bro and youre like me an ectomorph to get some serious gains just stick to the basics, compound movements, dont over complicate things. Do high intensity, 8-12 rep range of 4-5 sets of 5-8 different works one muscle group a day 5-6 days a week with 1-2 rest days, i take mine on the weekends. cut out doing cardio everyday if you are but if u wanna stay kinda lean then i suggest still do 2 sessions a week on the stair climber for an hour. Iv been on this
    regiment for 6 months now and iv gone from 170 to fluctating between 187-190 lbs of lean mass, and people still ask me how im so lean and cut and huge at the same time and im bulking!! (makes me excited to enter my pre-contest conditioning in january!) for nutrition 3200 calories a day for ur weight should be good, hell up it, if you want! make sure ur taking in at least 400-500 carbs a day and 1g of protien per pound of body weight, and u can up that to if ur a hard gainer. and in my opinion penut butter and WHOLE milk are the best natural mass gainers, iv been trying to intake 800-1000 calories of whole milk a day and iv been seeing some serious gains. GOODLUCk! hope this helps!

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    Originally Posted by Andrewmirin12 View Post
    I dont know youre experience in lifting, and im not suggesting that i have more experience than you do in lifting. but if youre looking to bulk bro and youre like me an ectomorph to get some serious gains just stick to the basics, compound movements, dont over complicate things. Do high intensity, 8-12 rep range of 4-5 sets of 5-8 different works one muscle group a day 5-6 days a week with 1-2 rest days, i take mine on the weekends. cut out doing cardio everyday if you are but if u wanna stay kinda lean then i suggest still do 2 sessions a week on the stair climber for an hour. Iv been on this
    regiment for 6 months now and iv gone from 170 to fluctating between 187-190 lbs of lean mass, and people still ask me how im so lean and cut and huge at the same time and im bulking!! (makes me excited to enter my pre-contest conditioning in january!) for nutrition 3200 calories a day for ur weight should be good, hell up it, if you want! make sure ur taking in at least 400-500 carbs a day and 1g of protien per pound of body weight, and u can up that to if ur a hard gainer. and in my opinion penut butter and WHOLE milk are the best natural mass gainers, iv been trying to intake 800-1000 calories of whole milk a day and iv been seeing some serious gains. GOODLUCk! hope this helps!
    Thanks for the tips buddy but I know how to train and diet haha, my question wasn't how to bulk or get bigger, but simply looking to see how people like DC verse High volume training like you suggested above.
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    DC > everything....

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    Originally Posted by Distilled Water
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    Agree 200%

    If you have the nuts to dig deep every workout (not saying you don't) then DC will literally rock your world. I have never had growth and strength gains as fast as I have with DC. Try a few blasts stick with it for 2 months and you will see vast differences.
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    Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    DC > everything....

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    Awesome, looking forward to hearing from you! Seen you placed 2nd in your show, congrats.
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    Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Agree 200%

    If you have the nuts to dig deep every workout (not saying you don't) then DC will literally rock your world. I have never had growth and strength gains as fast as I have with DC. Try a few blasts stick with it for 2 months and you will see vast differences.
    How long do you like to blast for personally?
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    The blast length will be determined by each individuals lifestyle,nutrition,and recovery abilities. Generally, 8 weeks is the norm but nothing is set in stone here. I don't know if you have gone to the site but, IntenseMuscle is where all your answers will be. I have been DCing off and on now since '08 and like Valdez said...it will pack on the size/strength if all the other pieces of the puzzle are in place.
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    agree with these guys. I've built my "base" from DC and it is very hard for me to stick to any other programs for very long without coming back.

    you have to be able to put everything into the one rest pause set or few working sets, but it is fun that way...and the gains are great: both strength and size.

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    Loved it.

    I at some point may plan to do a year or more straight of DC. I definitely will need a comrade to help push me along the way, though. I did it for 8-10 months last time, by myself, and it was superb, but I just couldn't do another squat widowmaker after my last cruise.
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    Originally Posted by Torobestia
    Loved it.

    I at some point may plan to do a year or more straight of DC. I definitely will need a comrade to help push me along the way, though. I did it for 8-10 months last time, by myself, and it was superb, but I just couldn't do another squat widowmaker after my last cruise.
    sometimes on "off cycles" or "cruises" I'll still rest pause what I can, including leg extensions instead of the WM

    or a little mentzer style leg ext to failure followed directly by leg press to failure...

    this is after squatting on quad days for a long period of time

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    My one tip is to start light! If you don't, you may notice that you'll stall very fast on upper body movements. I was pretty stubborn and saw little progress on my overhead press variations until I moved the rep range low. Now some people will be able to still get strong and big continuously working at the lower rest-pause rep range, but it wont hurt anybody to work at a higher rep range.
    Check your form: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/exercise-science/190675-proper-techniques.html

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    Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    sometimes on "off cycles" or "cruises" I'll still rest pause what I can, including leg extensions instead of the WM

    or a little mentzer style leg ext to failure followed directly by leg press to failure...

    this is after squatting on quad days for a long period of time
    I miss the thrill of completing widowmakers. I actually did one the other day on the leg press instead of a max effort squat/deadlift movement since I had already maxed a few days earlier, and it was fun as hell.
    Check your form: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/exercise-science/190675-proper-techniques.html

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    Originally Posted by Torobestia
    I miss the thrill of completing widowmakers. I actually did one the other day on the leg press instead of a max effort squat/deadlift movement since I had already maxed a few days earlier, and it was fun as hell.
    absolutely. you learn what you're made of by 15-16-17 reps

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    Awesome info guys, looking forward to starting DC!
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    Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    My one tip is to start light! If you don't, you may notice that you'll stall very fast on upper body movements. I was pretty stubborn and saw little progress on my overhead press variations until I moved the rep range low. Now some people will be able to still get strong and big continuously working at the lower rest-pause rep range, but it wont hurt anybody to work at a higher rep range.
    How high of a rep range?
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    Originally Posted by masonmarin18 View Post
    How high of a rep range?
    A lot of the guys here know more about the details than I do. I think they got their info from a recent DVD?

    But basically, start 15-20 rest-paused reps for barbell benching, 20-30rp dumbbell press, 15-20 for dips, 18-30 tricep extensions, 15-20 close grip bench. Again, those ranges are the total number of reps achieved between the 3 sets you rest-pause.

    I personally experienced no problems progressing using the suggested rep ranges for back exercises right off the bat (11-15 for most except bent over barbell rows or deadlift variations).

    You'll have to personalize this all, but my point is that don't be afraid to start light. You've read the material on DC training I'm sure - every set is the last set of your life; So what do you do? Go all out! So you're going to go all out, pushing past the extremes your body can handle. So you will grow, and you will get strong. Starting heavy on DC really only risks stalling on your progression and potentially injuring yourself.
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    Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    A lot of the guys here know more about the details than I do. I think they got their info from a recent DVD?

    But basically, start 15-20 rest-paused reps for barbell benching, 20-30rp dumbbell press, 15-20 for dips, 18-30 tricep extensions, 15-20 close grip bench. Again, those ranges are the total number of reps achieved between the 3 sets you rest-pause.

    I personally experienced no problems progressing using the suggested rep ranges for back exercises right off the bat (11-15 for most except bent over barbell rows or deadlift variations).

    You'll have to personalize this all, but my point is that don't be afraid to start light. You've read the material on DC training I'm sure - every set is the last set of your life; So what do you do? Go all out! So you're going to go all out, pushing past the extremes your body can handle. So you will grow, and you will get strong. Starting heavy on DC really only risks stalling on your progression and potentially injuring yourself.
    Sounds good man, yeah I planned on starting a little lighter than I could actually do to get used to it / let my body adapt before going for those lower rep ranges. Thanks for your input.
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