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    Hey everyone I am looking to build muscle and mass. I'm planning on starting a supplement program consisting of ***'s Vitapaks, High T Black, and also Jack3d and Yok3d for pre-workout as well as protein shakes.

    I am new to this kind of thing and don't know very much about how to do this the right way. I hear so many different opinions on using a Tes booster and would love if someone could clear things up for me (What are the side effects, pros / cons of using a Tes booster like High T Black)

    I am 5.7 really skinny (125 lbs give or take 5 lbs) have never really been on a supplement program.

    Please anyone with any helpful information (mainly regarding to the use of tes boosters and their pros / cons, also will using a tes booster give me the gyno side affect like alot of people say steroids do....?) I would really appreciate it.

    I am just so tired of being scrawny and skinny I want to bulk up and have good mass, musle tone and definition. PLEASE HELP!

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    First of all, how old are you? and what is your training program like?
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    I am 23, at the moment I don't really have a program yet. I just get up and do some running and some pull ups reps. I am planning on starting a targeted training program where I focus on different muscle groups every day of the week, while doing cardio before each work out.
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    First off, diet & training come way before supplements - hence the word "supplement" - not trying to be a d!ck - It's made in the kitchen & tuned in the gym. It sounds like you've got plenty of newb gains to be had before you even should think about supplements - throw in a good vitamin, creatine, protein, & maybe some BCAAs & hit it hard. At 23, unless there's more to the story, you shouldn't need any test boost -

    Eat hard, sleep hard, train hard - grow & grow & grow
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    Hey bud no hard feelings this is the kind of information I was looking for and I appreciate it! This is why I asked because I don't want to start off on the wrong foot.
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    Oh also whats a good training routine I should start with?
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    No sweat man - thanks for the reps! - one of the best "supplement" recommendations I've read on here has been "steakadrol"......lol.....

    Think of supplements as a nitro boost in a race car - you don't go around blasting it all the time, get everything else locked down & use them as an extra boost above & beyond.

    At 125 - I'd eat - a lot - good foods (real, whole foods - healthy stuff). Don't skimp on sleep either. Get these 2 in check & run with it -

    Here's a good selection of routines to check out -
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizKing531
    First off, diet & training come way before supplements - hence the word "supplement" - not trying to be a d!ck - It's made in the kitchen & tuned in the gym. It sounds like you've got plenty of newb gains to be had before you even should think about supplements - throw in a good vitamin, creatine, protein, & maybe some BCAAs & hit it hard. At 23, unless there's more to the story, you shouldn't need any test boost -

    Eat hard, sleep hard, train hard - grow & grow & grow
    I agree 100%, you need to bring yourself to your physical peak naturally than turn to other stuff. Lifting is 30% routine 30% diet 30% sleep and 10% supps. Being at your size and young age, with the first three inline you will see amazing amounts of gains. My real advice is start a proven workout with alot of explanatin like 5/3/1, rarely get less than 8hrs of sleep and record your calories and macros, myfitnesspal.com is commonly used
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/198788-highschool-athlete-thread.html
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