intermittent fasting for a bulk?
- 04-25-2012, 09:54 PM
intermittent fasting for a bulk?
Anyone done this or kno if it's been done with as much or better success than the typical 6 meals a day. Kinda wanna try it out but that would mean eating 4000 Cal within something like a 6hr window in 2-3 sittings. I don't have lots of knowledge on the lean gains fasting stuff. Any one feel like helping a bro out?
- 04-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Check it out!! Explains Cutting/Recomp/Bulking procedures!! Hope it helps! For recipes and more Macro help , feel free to ask!! and check the nutrition forum (Recipes subforum i mean) for more help too!! !!
- 04-25-2012, 11:20 PM
theres no reasn y it woudlnt work.....u jsut better be ready for some epic meals :-) right now im doing it with 2 meals 3600 cals, 1980 one meal (fast break) and one 1620
04-26-2012, 06:25 PM
04-26-2012, 06:28 PM
All evidence proves to do so , But i would suggest a bit of a bigger fast...18-20 hours , so autophagy can occur ! Good luck!
04-26-2012, 10:35 PM
It's an amazing method to say the least. Love to train fasted & what's better than knowing after this workout your about to have a big meal. It's more like a reward. Lol
04-27-2012, 12:46 AM
Is training fasted part of the lean gains plan? I was planning on eat round 1800 Cal at 1 pm and 2200 at 6000 n I normally workout any time from 10pm-1pm? Does this work IR us there a better way to set it up?
04-27-2012, 08:57 AM
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04-27-2012, 01:00 PM
i have done a preworkout meal before thats y i recommnede that......right now i do 2 meals out of conveiniece, post w/o fast break 55% calories (recommended onlean gains site) and the rest before bed....
04-27-2012, 01:14 PM
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04-27-2012, 03:11 PM
IMO intermitten fasting is some ****ing dumb ****, especially cuse you have dumb bitches saying **** like thiswhy the **** would u want to go into autophagy the point of a bulk is to put on muscle and obviously a little bit of fat its not possible to do a "lean bulk", and the second reason you bulk, even if its clean, is so you can have boss energy in the gym and lift bigger so if ur fasting ur gonna have **** energy, unless you dumbass intermitten fasters workout after eating one of your 3,000 cal meals, which would probably result in a ****ty bloated workoutBut i would suggest a bit of a bigger fast...18-20 hours , so autophagy can occur
04-27-2012, 03:19 PM
yeah I never understood why people want to do IF for an all out bulk.... or why they'd train fasted during a bulk. You're cutting yourself short on gains in strength and size.
IF is by definition, a lean gains diet, AKA recomp.. If you plan an all out BULK, and maximize gains in both strength and size... IF is not the way
04-27-2012, 03:26 PM
2.IF isn't by definition a "lean gains diet" LG is only one style, not all IF, and even then only when using 20/-20 calorie cycle is it geared towards recomp. You can use it for dieting, or bulking. It comes down to calories.
It may be hard for some people with high caloric requirements to get down all their food in that short of a window. That could pose a problem.
However I do feel you have a point with if wanting to maximize size gains there is probably better options.
I still follow my same IF diet however I add a small morning feeding, making my fast closer to 12hrs when I am bulking. It has been working well.
04-27-2012, 04:08 PM
I hear ya. It's definitely a new approach for me as well, and I'm still learning about it. I don't think I'd ever use it except to recomp though, it seems optimal for that.
I can't train fasted when aiming for max strength in the gym. I'd just feel depleted and empty, neeeeed that protein and carb meal before hand. I powerlift, so it just doesn't make sense for me, but since I train in the evening, it would be easy to have a bite before and then just have the feast post-workout.
04-27-2012, 04:17 PM
Fwiw I'm the complete opposite. I train better fasted and also train like a pl(these days).Originally Posted by Gutterpump
Just gotta do what works best for you.
Just about every pr I've ever hit I've done fasted.
I typically don't train fasted anymore as I train at night now but really enjoyed when I did.
Ps. Clear your pm box real quick.
04-27-2012, 04:20 PM
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04-27-2012, 09:51 PM
wht ever man ur body i just think its dumb, i went on a legit bulk of 6000 cals 6-7 meals a day, now im at 150 in two months time, surprisingly not a lot of fat gain either, also celorza nice quoting frank cuse ur what 128 lbs oh **** u tiny dick hole
04-27-2012, 09:54 PM
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04-27-2012, 10:24 PM
i ran a couple natty stacks: CLA, fishoil, animal pak sterol complex, astravar, arginie, carnatie, DAA, btw can u either explain to me the main purpose of IF or link me to a webpage, like explain the point of fasting?
04-27-2012, 10:28 PM
Also here is the way to calculate macros and also the schemes for Cut/Recomp/Bulk. :
For more open discussion and tips on it:
The Lean Gains / IF learning and Discussion Log
04-27-2012, 10:34 PM
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04-27-2012, 10:43 PM
I'll be thinking about how much of a weak bitch I am this weak when I'm deadlifting 500 for reps. Lol
Boris hurt my feelings. Better start eating every 2.17 hrs again.
04-27-2012, 10:46 PM
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05-02-2012, 04:44 PM
sumo diet.....2 meals a day, go look that up, it works for those guys...also carb backloading is similar....only protien and fat all day until after training, then massive cabs until bed- you'll feel like your starving all day haha
07-29-2012, 06:06 PM
I have tried the IF bulk and it didnt work for me. I have now altered it to be more of a 10-12 a hour fast instead of the 16 hours reccommended by leangains. I will see how this goes. The funny thing is I gained 3kg while doing the bulk but the weights or repetitions stayed almost the same.
However I will say the cut part was a big success. I went from 17% BF to 10% in the space of 2 and a half months while gaining muscle. However after 3 months the muscle gains completely stopped and thats why I tried the IF bulk and that didnt work either. I am coming to the conclusion that the statement by leangains that you cannot lose muscle up till 24 hours of fasting is false. Well at least in my experience it is.
07-29-2012, 06:48 PM
I had some concerns myself, and actually moved away from it for a while by adding a 4th meal, in the morning, but ended up getting back to IF and made it work fairly well. I gained a good 25-30lbs at the highest, and am still up about 20, and still in good shape. Took some tweaking for me to really make the most out of it, when trying to solely focus on mass.
Maybe it's not for you, but there might be more you can do to make the most of it.
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