First Cycle / Should i wait

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    Hello there i am interested in doing a cycle and i have been reading up on PCT and first time cycles, If i am to run a cycle i think i will run

    Testosterone 1-12 week, Dbol 1-4/5 week

    Test 500mg per week / dbol 30mg

    PCT 2 weeks after last shot of test 20mg nolvadex ed

    Stats

    Age = 18
    Current Weight - 195 Pounds and 14% Body fat
    Training = 1 year
    Steroid use = none

    Max Lifts

    Bench Press - 200 pounds
    Squat - 220 pounds
    DeadLift - 330 pounds
    Shoulder Press - 170 pounds

    Current Supplementation

    Whey Protein
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Multi Vitamin
    Amino Acids
    Pre- Workout

    Questions?

    If i am to run my first cycle should i do a test only cycle or should i run it with dbol also as i have heard that testosterone takes 4 weeks to
    kick in?

    I am 18 should i leave the cycle until i am 21 like most advise?


    Thanks i am not looking to jump on the steroid bandwagon without knowing exactly what i am doing and if i am to fallow up with the course i will be researching for at least 1 month on the forum every other night..

    Much appreciation

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    Hey man, this is a bulking thread for nutrition, not aas/ps. This should be posted in anabolic discussion.

    As for your question, no this is not a good first cycle. I know you are probably tired of hearing this but you are really just too young. Your natural test levels are the highest they will ever be on their own right now, if you start introducing exogenous androgens into your system, you could permanently alter you endogenous testosterone production--not something you want.

    Start studying nutrition and make sure you know as much as possible about dieting and natural supplementation before even thinking about aas/ds or even ph's. The more you know about diet and training, the more effective these items will be when you are ready.

    Honestly, even 21 is still too young IMO. Focus your energy on eating and you will grow. Will you gain 5-10lbs in a month? No. Could you gain 10lbs a year? With the right diet and training, yes! And at your age that's a lot of mass!

    Keep reading and learning. You should know how to read your own blood work and be VERY knowledgeable about how these compounds effect your endocrine system, don't be a lab rat, be a scientist. Sounds cheesy but you will only be happier, and healthier.

    I'm glad you are being honest about your age, there are a lot of great people on here who will be glad to help you reach your goals. Just keep at it and save the heavy stuff for much later on... Good luck and I hope this helps!
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    once you put 100lbs on all your lifts, than id say start. youre pretty young tho, hold off
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    IMO you are pretty young to start juicing. At your age you are naturally producing a great amount of testosterone. Eat right, lift hard and get your 8 hours of sleep bro. If you start taking juice at your age now you can really mess up your natural hormones
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    Thanks very much guys for the positive feedback, i really appreciate the responses to this... I think i am going to stay natural for the next 2-3
    years and try and become pretty big natural and then maybe start juicing...

    like i said this is why i came to this forum for help and advice from people who have juiced and serious bodybuilders

    much appreciated kc777, geekpoop and VS91588 for your responses
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    too weak to juice, no offense. how do you have access to dbol and test if you're inexperienced in the gym? this doesnt add up...
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    What's with people posting aas questions in the diet section?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan View Post
    too weak to juice, no offense. how do you have access to dbol and test if you're inexperienced in the gym? this doesnt add up...

    I have contacts with the manufacturers of such products.. certified traders

    thats about as much information as i want to be giving


    As to the comment (to weak to juice)

    there is no such thing as to weak to juice and people juice for different aims and specific targets, this aint about being weak enough to juice or not


    As to the comment (why are people posting in this section)

    This was a mistake by me and i never noticed it was in a nutrition section i only seen it as the Bulking section

    apology to any offense caused
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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan007 View Post
    I have contacts with the manufacturers of such products.. certified traders

    thats about as much information as i want to be giving


    As to the comment (to weak to juice)

    there is no such thing as to weak to juice and people juice for different aims and specific targets, this aint about being weak enough to juice or not


    As to the comment (why are people posting in this section)

    This was a mistake by me and i never noticed it was in a nutrition section i only seen it as the Bulking section

    apology to any offense caused
    Being too weak to juice has a lot to do with it. for your weight, age and year of lifting, you should be a whole lot stronger. Which means that either your diet sucks, training sucks, form sucks or you are just a novice in general. Those are all reasons why you shouldn't juice, which have been made obvious by your stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan View Post
    Being too weak to juice has a lot to do with it. for your weight, age and year of lifting, you should be a whole lot stronger. Which means that either your diet sucks, training sucks, form sucks or you are just a novice in general. Those are all reasons why you shouldn't juice, which have been made obvious by your stats.
    I dont agree with you with the "im not lifting alot for my age"

    i have only been training for about 2 months the only reason i put down 1 year was because i know people would just say i aint been training long enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan007 View Post
    i have only been training for about 2 months the only reason i put down 1 year was because i know people would just say i aint been training long enough
    You havent been training long enough.


    No really, what eveybody else said about being young and having great test production already is spot on. Wait a few years. I swear it was so much easier to put on mass and i had more aggression with harder muscles when I was your age. I would have taken advantage of it and trained harder if I had somebody telling me like we are telling you.

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    IMHO you are too young, but even moreso your lifts aren't very high for your weight. I'm 160 and put up 240 on bench. Get AT LEAST one more year of training and 100% solid dieting before you consider AAS.
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    wrong section brothaa
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    Please don't. 2 months training, come on bro. I respect you for coming on and asking for people's opinion, but shape your diet/sleeping patterns and your lifting habits and you will see natural results. If you have only been training for two months there is no way you have been researching, research more.

    Please stay away, this kind of stuff is the reason aas get banned and frowned upon by most non-juicing lifters.
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    2 months and you're already wanting to juice? you should just barely be getting into creatine! If you smoked weed once, would you do PCP the next time you wanted to get high?
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    He's starting off with coke..
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    We can't be affected we must just be injected. Injected with knowledge.
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