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    is it ok to eat cerea(fiber one)l before bed time or does it make me catabolic. for example. I'm trying to get in all my calories as possible.

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    i would go with casien or yogurt or cottage cheese even low fat ice cream i try to stay away from hi carbs before bed
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    i go to the gym as soon as i get up, would high carbs be ok the night before?
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    This is not recommended for everyone, but why not experiment. I know plenty of people that consume oats before bed and have awesome physiques. I don't know much about fiber 1, but make sure sugar content is low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedlund6 View Post
    i would go with casien or yogurt or cottage cheese even low fat ice cream i try to stay away from hi carbs before bed
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    yeh i couldnt resist ate a bowl.. on dbol anywaysv;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by boricuarage View Post
    yeh i couldnt resist ate a bowl.. on dbol anywaysv;-)
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    IMO. its not good to eat anything right before going to sleep. You need to leave a couple hours to let your body digest your food..

    If you eat and then go straight to bed, your body wont digest the food properly and it will putrefy in your intestines.. In addition, your full stomach could send acid refluxing into your eso****us.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxsum View Post
    IMO. its not good to eat anything right before going to sleep. You need to leave a couple hours to let your body digest your food..

    If you eat and then go straight to bed, your body wont digest the food properly and it will putrefy in your intestines.. In addition, your full stomach could send acid refluxing into your eso****us.

    Good luck
    Right, cuz we all sh1t putrefied food on a regular basis and the intestines just turn off when you go to sleep.

    OP, food of any kind will keep you from going catabolic - by definition catabolism only happens in a hypocaloric state. Ingesting any fuel source will prevent this. And Dbol would mean you have to worry about catabolism even less than normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxsum View Post
    IMO. its not good to eat anything right before going to sleep. You need to leave a couple hours to let your body digest your food..

    If you eat and then go straight to bed, your body wont digest the food properly and it will putrefy in your intestines.. In addition, your full stomach could send acid refluxing into your eso****us.

    Good luck
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    Yeah you need a slower digesting protein. Like others have said cottahe cheese and casein are great!
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    Perhaps consider a cereal like grape nuts or non frosted shredded wheat to reduce the blood sugar spike right before bed, but hey if your looking to bulk a bit as you suggested with the dbol, do it up with the fiber one...that cereal is pretty damn good tasting
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    "Do not eat or drink right before going to bed. Eating a late dinner or snacking before going to bed can activate the digestive system and keep you up. If you suffer from gastroeso****eal reflux (GERD) or heartburn, it is even more important to avoid eating and drinking right before bed since this can make your symptoms worse. In addition, excessive drinking prior to bed can overwhelm the bladder, requiring frequent visits to the bathroom."

    From WebMD.com (webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleeping-pills-6/insomnia-tips)

    Sleep is when your body regenerates/repairs itself. You want it to have plenty of energy to do that. If your body has to spend most of its energy digesting your food, it cant use that energy to work on other areas of your body. Also, if your stomach is full of food/liquid, then when your eso****eal sphincter relaxes, as it does when you lay down to sleep, its much easier for food to reflux then if your stomach was not full.

    I guess it depends what your goals are. Health? or Lookin like a big monkey man? LOL ( i know thatll get you all riled up )

    ofcourse, eating before bed, might help you to pack on some pounds, but overall its NOT HEALTHY to eat right before going to sleep.. You need to leave a few hours beforehand to let your body get some digestion out of the way, so that you can have a full restful sleep.

    Good sleep is critical to gaining muscle and repairing the body, I wouldnt do anything to hamper it.. but you can do whatever you want
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    I can say if I notice one thing about eating carbs before bed its that my body temperature seems higher and its harder to fall asleep...

    I drink some casein, or have some cheese n eggs... Perfect slow digesting protein
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxsum View Post
    "Do not eat or drink right before going to bed. Eating a late dinner or snacking before going to bed can activate the digestive system and keep you up. If you suffer from gastroeso****eal reflux (GERD) or heartburn, it is even more important to avoid eating and drinking right before bed since this can make your symptoms worse. In addition, excessive drinking prior to bed can overwhelm the bladder, requiring frequent visits to the bathroom."

    From WebMD.com (webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleeping-pills-6/insomnia-tips)

    Sleep is when your body regenerates/repairs itself. You want it to have plenty of energy to do that. If your body has to spend most of its energy digesting your food, it cant use that energy to work on other areas of your body. Also, if your stomach is full of food/liquid, then when your eso****eal sphincter relaxes, as it does when you lay down to sleep, its much easier for food to reflux then if your stomach was not full.

    I guess it depends what your goals are. Health? or Lookin like a big monkey man? LOL ( i know thatll get you all riled up )

    ofcourse, eating before bed, might help you to pack on some pounds, but overall its NOT HEALTHY to eat right before going to sleep.. You need to leave a few hours beforehand to let your body get some digestion out of the way, so that you can have a full restful sleep.

    Good sleep is critical to gaining muscle and repairing the body, I wouldnt do anything to hamper it.. but you can do whatever you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxsum View Post
    Sleep is when your body regenerates/repairs itself. You want it to have plenty of energy to do that. If your body has to spend most of its energy digesting your food, it cant use that energy to work on other areas of your body.
    I like this part... What do you think the purpose of digesting food is? To obtain energy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    I like this part... What do you think the purpose of digesting food is? To obtain energy!
    Thanks. I know food gives you energy. But it also takes ALOT of energy to digest food. Look into it. If your energy is always tied up digesting massive amounts of food all and all night, when does your body have time to dedicate lots of energy to other functions like repairing/detoxing the body.

    Im just being argumentative. I agree you gotta eat a lot to gain.. im just saying theres more to consider, everything has an effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxsum View Post
    If your energy is always tied up digesting massive amounts of food all and all night, when does your body have time to dedicate lots of energy to other functions like repairing/detoxing the body.
    All the time. None of those actions are mutually exclusive to the others - detoxification within the liver is an ongoing process, as is glucose regulation, cellular repair, protein turnover, and hormone production.

    If your body was incapable of multitasking, you'd be dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    All the time. None of those actions are mutually exclusive to the others - detoxification within the liver is an ongoing process, as is glucose regulation, cellular repair, protein turnover, and hormone production.

    If your body was incapable of multitasking, you'd be dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
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    hahaha this thread has made me laugh. dude, yeah you can eat anything before you sleep, especially while you are bulking. if you are cutting, it gets tricky here. anyways, i would rather my digestive system be digesting on casein protein at night than nothing. you GROW WHILE YOU SLEEP. so why not have protein in your system so it can feed your muscles while they grow. IMO, and this is for me personally, its stupid not to eat before you sleep. ive been doing it ever since i have been educated on bodybuilding
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxsum View Post
    Thanks. I know food gives you energy. But it also takes ALOT of energy to digest food. Look into it. If your energy is always tied up digesting massive amounts of food all and all night, when does your body have time to dedicate lots of energy to other functions like repairing/detoxing the body.

    Im just being argumentative. I agree you gotta eat a lot to gain.. im just saying theres more to consider, everything has an effect.
    dude, hes talking about a freakin bowl of cereal, not 100 g of protein and 2k cals
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothballer View Post
    Yeah you need a slower digesting protein. Like others have said cottage cheese and casein are great!
    x3,

    Fats and slow digesting proteins before bed to keep the body anabolic, no carbs after 5 (post workout only, ideally).

    Insulin levels are highest in the P.M. so much of glycogen added during that time is converted to fat.
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    zomg, if you eat anything before bed, your body will digest it and youll poop the bed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronic View Post
    zomg, if you eat anything before bed, your body will digest it and youll poop the bed
    hahahaha awesome!!
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    Get your calories in before bed time, fools. Having a nice GH release is more important than 200 high GI calories right before bed.

    Really, it's not going to make or break you either way. But I get much better results letting my body get a nice GH spike during my sleep(recovery is increased, body comp is much better, etc). More so than I ever have making sure I gave my body enough calories to make it through the night. Especially when it's already gotten enough cals throughout the day...

    IMO GH spike > whatever small help a bowl of ****ty ****ing cereal gives you
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    Has anyone honesty seen any difference in anything by manipulating feeding times, but keep your calories and macronutrients the same? I've been at this for years and I can't find any truly convincing scientific evidence or other evidence that all this manipulation of feeding times makes much difference at all (again assuming constant macronutrients and calories). I've recently decided to quit being so psychotic about this food stuff and simply eat breakfast when I wake up, then lunch, then something after I train, then dinner. I haven't changed my calorie or protein intake, I just quit worrying about all this eat every 2-3 hours stuff. I honesty can't say it has made one bit of difference in the way I look, feel, or perform in training.
    My advice to the OP is to have cereal before bed if he wants it. If it causes you trouble to eat before sleeping, then don't. Get your calorie and protein targets in on a consistent basis and you'll be fine no matter how you split it up.
    By the way, that nonense about digestion taking up so much energy it impairs growth is truly just nonsense. We are digesting and absorbing our food most of the time and people still manage to get big and strong. It takes much longer than an hour or two to fully digest and absorb most meals, so we are in a "fed" state most of the time (again regardless of how we split up our meals).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRS2000 View Post
    Has anyone honesty seen any difference in anything by manipulating feeding times, but keep your calories and macronutrients the same? I've been at this for years and I can't find any truly convincing scientific evidence or other evidence that all this manipulation of feeding times makes much difference at all (again assuming constant macronutrients and calories). I've recently decided to quit being so psychotic about this food stuff and simply eat breakfast when I wake up, then lunch, then something after I train, then dinner. I haven't changed my calorie or protein intake, I just quit worrying about all this eat every 2-3 hours stuff. I honesty can't say it has made one bit of difference in the way I look, feel, or perform in training.
    I think what you are seeing is evidence of diminishing returns in real world practice.

    Many (if not most) of BB concepts are theoretical discussions that, for simplicity's sake, cannot take into account all the real world variables.

    Fewer meals at the same overall food intake means larger individual meals, which take longer to digest. Consequently nutrient flow is not going to be directly proportional to the number of meals. For example, if you get 12 hours of nutrient flow with 8 meals, you are not going to get 6 hours with 4. Probably more like 10...

    What usually happens is that in lack of hard scientific evidence, we tend to err on the side of caution. Hence recommendations for 6-8 meals per day, 2g of protein per lb of body weight etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    I think what you are seeing is evidence of diminishing returns in real world practice.

    Many (if not most) of BB concepts are theoretical discussions that, for simplicity's sake, cannot take into account all the real world variables.

    Fewer meals at the same overall food intake means larger individual meals, which take longer to digest. Consequently nutrient flow is not going to be directly proportional to the number of meals. For example, if you get 12 hours of nutrient flow with 8 meals, you are not going to get 6 hours with 4. Probably more like 10...

    What usually happens is that in lack of hard scientific evidence, we tend to err on the side of caution. Hence recommendations for 6-8 meals per day, 2g of protein per lb of body weight etc.
    I get what you are saying, but for me all the extra effort it takes to eat that often just isn't worth it when no one is even sure it will actually help and I can't see or feel any difference myself. For those dieting down for a bodybuilding competition or something similar I understand trying to optimize even the most minute variables, but for those just trying to get big and strong or stay in shape the effort vs reward just doesn't seem to make sense. Based on the lack of actual evidence for this stuff I think it is vastly overrated for the typical trainee who isn't in competition prep.
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