Quantity over Quality
- 01-24-2010, 06:38 PM
I am not a buck 90. I am 6-1 235 and not fat. I am not preaching perfection. I am in the navy and when we deploy, I cannot bring all kinds of food. I eat what they cook. I just substitute shakes when needed. This is not to criticize him, but critique his diet to aid him in adding LBM. I am nearly 35 years old, and am a fitness leader on board a navy ship. I Help a lot of people do the same thing, and the same for losing weight.
- 01-24-2010, 07:00 PM
yeah but you just said you 6 foot 1. youre tall. you could try to argue youre average height but youre not. your tall, so when youre taller you weigh more. not saying you didnt work for you 235 lbs frame, just saying its harder for a smaller man to weigh they same.
but besides that, You say you guys arent criticizing him, then i dont think telling him "april fools...?" and other guys saying "you cant give bulking advice at 180ish", and saying "ill see better results than you if i dont eat snickers" is very helpful.
you also say your all trying to help him at LBM. hes talking about a bulk. Of course adding LBM is ideal but bulking and cutting are two different phases. Ill watch someone try to get bigger while trying to keep there bf low as possible and ill blow past them keeping mine around 15% and then cutting down. Plus our muslce grow from carrying that extra weight on your frame, your body expands. im closing in on 21 inch claves from carrying my new frame around and guess what? im not fat either.
you also say your a fitness instructor, at every gym i have EVER been to, atleast 2 gym instructers from each have asked me what my diet is and what my routine is for being my size at my age.
your 235 at 35 6 foot 1
Im 250 at 21 at 5 foot 9
check with me soon and ill be 280. i may be young but this is my life. ive been working with retired bodybuilders since i was 16.
- 01-25-2010, 02:04 AM
I am not bashing you. I just dont want you bashing me. I am not huge, but I will be getting bigger this year. I had already started dieting down for a show this year, but my navy schedule would not permit it yet. I am back to gaining for now, but my schedule is very demanding. I am at sea a lot, and I may only get 3 meals in, and 3 shakes. Its not exactly a calorie surplus. I am holding some mass though, and not fat. You are doing great. I wish i was 21 again. I would be huge. Good luck
01-25-2010, 02:17 AM
i am not bashing you, i was defending the one who started this post. im not saying his title was the best or appropriate even, but his message was sound. eating clean during a bulk is OK, but i dont advocate it at all and much better gaines can be made if the doors are opened up. like i said earlier, the pros didnt get that big from eating chicken breast and sweet potatoes. they ate crap aswell. alot of it is on film. of course they dont say so in the magazines but half that stuff is b.s. watch the documentary "bigger stronger faster". it shows how those before and after pics are done in one day and how most supps arent even supps, there just "proprietary blend". jay cutler even admits to steroids on film. but thats no secret. my point is eating pizza burgers and whatever should not be avoided but embraced. if you feel differently thats fine. you have your reasons and i have mine. thanks for the "good luck" i also wish you good luck aswell in your show.
01-25-2010, 02:21 AM
Bro, I ate 2 doughnuts today. Its all good. I just eat good most of the time until the diet starts. We are clear now. I saw the movie Bigger stronger faster twice. Its great. It really opens up your eyes on things. I want to be bigger and have less fat. I hate that they are getting rid of what I could use to gain muscle. I want back the stuff they banned in 2004, and the stuff that just went too. It blows.
01-25-2010, 02:26 AM
01-25-2010, 02:27 AM
01-25-2010, 02:30 AM
do you know if micordol was banned aswell from bradley asgard? ive been wanting to try some and hope its still around
01-25-2010, 02:31 AM
01-25-2010, 02:34 AM
01-25-2010, 05:39 AM
Yea my title could have been different but atleast someone agrees on the message. thanks for the support and keep up the eating.
01-25-2010, 09:41 AM
Just to add some information for ya, as a wellness professional I feel I have to step in and say something here. There are two sides to this story. The first side would be for people who want to put on weight, regardless of health, (gaining fat, clogging arteries, eating toxic processed "food", and just simply being "unhealthy") In that case - eat all you want and I agree snickers, chips, anything if all you care about is packing on the pounds wether it be fat or muscle than eat eat eat. I agree.....
The second side would be the opinion of somebody like me, saying that is the wrong way to go. Don't sacrifice your health because you want to gain weight fast. You can still pack on muscle eating clean. The more "real" the food the better quality, the more benefits you will get. therefore the less you will have to eat in order to get that nutrients. Your body needs nutrients to grow and work properly. If you are pounding mcdonalds cheeseburgers and eating snickers all day, your immune system will then try to fight off all of those toxins, thus making it harder to grow because you are wasting energy fighting off that "crap" you are putting into your body. Think of your body as a fine tuned automobile -- The better the fuel, the better efficiency -- same principal with your body and food. Sometimes less is really more... you get the point.
Congrats on being a 5-9" 250lber at 21 years of age... good luck getting chicks lol... j/k.... sounds like you are truely dedicated to bodybuilding and thats awesome, just don't sacrifice your health is all im tryin to say
01-25-2010, 10:00 AM
Plus if you think you get all of what you body needs from whole foods then you are mistaken yet again. Did you know that an apple from your grocery store has 6 times less nutrients than that of an organic one from a farmers market? if you have enough money to buy/kill and process everything that goes into your body so you can be "clean" and "healthy" than go for it. you wont be that big but itll feed you. even buying beef, milk, rice, fruit, and veggies from the grocery store isnt as healthy as your advocating.
and finally, if your gonna step in to save the day becasue your a "wellness professional" then know what your talking about and dont try and rag on somebody ("have fun getting chicks") becasue your just gonna get ragged on back.
01-25-2010, 10:13 AM
01-25-2010, 02:03 PM
01-26-2010, 02:58 PM
i think the point is a lot of us dont necceassarily wanna be carrying snickers with us or bad weight rather... and i guarantee u that big guy at the gym did not get big off chocolate. I mean come on
01-26-2010, 03:02 PM
Of course not, but the good meals are there. They always are, but what he and I are saying is even Jay Cutler goes to IN n OUT. I go to Chipotle, and eat burgers or pizza here and there. Its just in moderation. I work hard in the gym, and dieting sucks. Who in their right mind would disagree. Its balance, and it keeps you sane.
01-26-2010, 03:07 PM
01-26-2010, 03:12 PM
06-06-2013, 10:37 PM
People have been conditioned to believe that "junk foods" automatically correlate to poor health. It's not true.
06-07-2013, 12:01 AM
06-10-2013, 12:22 PM
If you're gonna bulk you might as well keep it clean, weights gonna have to come off eventually. Snickers do not fall under the category of IFIFYM, eat a frickin sweet potato.
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