join the gym, or buy supplements and home train?
- 11-10-2008, 02:54 AM
join the gym, or buy supplements and home train?
I'm from Australia, only 17. and i'm new to weight training. i've just been using a 20k dumbbell set i have at home, eating alot and using a mass gainer, and a cheap tri-creatine malate. (Body Ripped).
currently i can only afford to 1. use a supplement. 2. join the gym. or 3. save for awhile and buy a olympic barbell set.
however the weight i have at the moment is well.. ****.
although i do many sets, 10 to be exact, of dumbbell curls, shoulder shrugs, vertical presses, incline presses, push-ups and 5 sets of sit-ups. i do that 4-5 times a week, while using a mass gainer.
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
- 11-10-2008, 03:06 AM
gym membership and/or saving for olympic set will be your best bet.
FOOD is your best supplement right now bro. Also you can get CHEAP creatine from Nutraplanet (like 12 bucks for a kilo, at 5-10g ed thats a ton of servings). I would get some cheapo creatine as I said and then eat ALOT and eat correctly, check the diet section, do alot of searching then go ahead and post up what you figure will be appropriate for a diet to have it critiqued, dont just post up asking for a diet, you wont get one as they are posted everywhere already.
So a strong diet a lil creatine and a gym membership so you can do some real and intense workouts will make you grow more then ever. check the following forums for info then grow!
Nutrition / Health
Workout Logs (very good to see others ideas put in action and their direct results)
- 11-10-2008, 03:24 AM
11-10-2008, 05:23 AM
fukk the gym. My first few years were spent training in the garage, why spend $80/month on a membership when you can deck yourself out with an Olympic barbell set. You are more inclined to train heavy on the basics when you train at home as well instead of playing around with isolation movements on cables etc........try it for a year or so. If you dont like it you can always sell the equipment for a decent price on ebay.
11-10-2008, 06:20 AM
Some guys in the gym are there to perform (show off) notice how the biggest guys tend to mind their own buisness and go ape shiet. Not saying that is you but at home its just you and your music doing what has to get done, no waiting, no posers, no dress code and no onlookers.
I personally think a mixture is nice, if your local pool has a nice set of weights its nice to mix it up and hit the hot tub afterwards. Women in bikinis is nice but either way i think its best to start at home, get in a routine, get all your workouts planned and structured free of distraction.
The gym is great too, lots of equipment, spotters when needed and someone else does the laundry.
11-10-2008, 07:56 AM
11-10-2008, 08:23 AM
Home train all the way.
Nothing beats being able to spit on the floor, swear and grunt without getting dirty looks from people.
Plus I'd go for a pullup bar and a backpack full of rocks over a fancy nautilus machine anyday.
if you need motivation, just watch Rocky IV.
11-10-2008, 10:35 PM
seeing as i dont have a car at the moment and getting to the gym where i live would be a trek and a half. i might try the hometraining, was their any other lifts/excersices i should /can do with some dumbbells and a barbell that i've missed?
as far as the food goes, i can probably only fit in about four meals a day. i try to eat good carbs, meat, eggs etc.
thanks guys, really appreciate your help.
11-11-2008, 01:53 AM
i'd say gym unless u have a lot of $$$ to invest on ur home set.
Just keep in mind that when u're looking to gain serious results, u'll be constantly changing the weights. Especially with squats, deadlifts and bench.
11-11-2008, 11:42 AM
definately go for a gym membership i pary 20 bucks a month best investment ive mad yet, eat like a horse to grow. getting a home gym to me isnt as motivational as actually going to the gym but thats just me you can do w.e u want but i suggest a gym membership, for exercises to learn go to the excercise forum on here, or go to bodybulding.com and search exercises they have every exercise you can do pretty much, cheers and good luck mate!
11-11-2008, 12:21 PM
11-11-2008, 01:13 PM
nah i dont live in australia im from micigan, its a decent gym got the basics and a lil extra but i use all mainly dumbells so i get what i need to get done, i got the 20 dollar account cuz you half off on stuff in the gym its called Planet Fitness they got a site too
11-11-2008, 01:34 PM
11-11-2008, 01:50 PM
gyms in sydney are a rip off. when i went home at Xmas it cost me $65 for a 2 week pass. I think its around $80 a month and they are nothing special trust me.
11-11-2008, 03:07 PM
If you have the room.... Build your own!.... I've had mine for 5 years now and I'm motivated every time I walk into it.... I also have my computer in the room because I can listen to my own music, maybe do a little search on AM in between sets and I can also search different exercises..... This pic doesn't justify the room... It's bigger than it looks.. 20x16 and it's all mine
11-11-2008, 04:13 PM
Only 4 meals a day? Have more faith in yourself. I say skip the gym if you can get enough weights at home. Keep your exercises simple - bench press, squats, deadlifts, rows. Maybe some old school calesthenics liek pushups and some isometrics. Spend the money on meat.
11-11-2008, 05:07 PM
11-11-2008, 05:30 PM
11-11-2008, 05:32 PM
I think at 17yrs old I would get the gym membership. For one it will take time to save for a good home gym. For 2 I assume you live at home so it will be taking up space in your parents home?
But for the main reason you are still working to reach your potential and you could learn quite a bit from people at the gym that know what they are doing. I still learn something new at the gym. An exercise I've never tried that might work better. Or just plain having access to all the machines and free weights.
11-11-2008, 05:33 PM
11-11-2008, 05:35 PM
Building a decent home gym is expensive. Building a really good one is REALLY expensive.
Of course, your lifts will be simple compounds at first that you could probably do with a bench, a power rack, and a pile of 45 pound plates, but eventually you're going to want to start varying your exercises and doing more complex movements. I think heavy dumbell training is extremely important, and those aren't cheap. There are also a lot of machines that you will like to try out once you get a feel for it.
My advice: gym membership, bulk creatine, weight gainer (you can make your own if you buy cheap whey), and FOOD.
If you do decide to build your home gym, your first investment should be a barbell with plenty of plates and a power rack. If you're not deadlifting and squatting, you're not really training.
11-15-2008, 08:16 AM
11-15-2008, 10:01 AM
11-15-2008, 03:55 PM
11-15-2008, 06:17 PM
11-18-2008, 01:22 AM
You guys are definatly right about the gym part they are really expensive in sydney.. got into abit with the law back there and the local copper let me use the gym at the youth centre, you know get me off the streets to do something constructive, so i used to used it acouple times a week and follow up with some home training, seemed to do the job quite well and it was practically free but i've moved interstate since then and don't have that luxury at the moment lol.
however, until i figure my sh*t out im probably going to have to home train for awhile. i did however pick up and EZ curl bar and 20k of plates for 20 bucks, i thought that was a bargain.
yeah, i do live at home but there's plenty of room to go around i've got the go ahead if it's what i want to do. i don't know much, but can one still make gain's using only a barbell, dumbbell's and add weights to it when needed? in the mean time while i look for a gym nearby.
11-18-2008, 01:26 AM
get a bench and olympic bar and 225-300lbs in plates asap.
that will give you, BENCH, Squats and DEADS that will make you grow plenty for now... as you go along you can fill it in with more variants and more machinery.
Good luck man.
11-18-2008, 07:23 AM
11-18-2008, 09:22 AM
Where in Australia do you guys live?
I lived in Black Rock, Victoria for a few years due to my Dad's job. About an hour and half southeast of Melbourne.
11-18-2008, 11:19 AM
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